Mass Effect 3

Mass Effect 3 was great up until the very end.

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At that point Bioware seemed to say, f*** you(the player) and this epic character you and we have been building and adding to for 6 years. F*** his friends, F*** his loved ones, F*** his choices, relationships, and decisions that have been adding up since Mass Effect 1. F*** the galaxy because they're screwed no matter what you do. F*** any chance of happiness even if you survive because apparently you'll never see anyone you care about ever again with no space travel and them stuck on some backwater planet only accessible by galaxy destroying energy beam wormhole. It's like they took every opportunity to f*** you over in the end and give you no chance for a definitive ending that's good. They all suck. Bioware really lost a fan.

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Originally posted by ares834
I've heard it affects everyone whose ME 2 import was also imported from ME, and they didn't change Shepard's face when given the chance in ME 2.

Originally posted by KingD19
Mass Effect 3 was great up until the very end.

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At that point Bioware seemed to say, f*** you(the player) and this epic character you and we have been building and adding to for 6 years. F*** his friends, F*** his loved ones, F*** his choices, relationships, and decisions that have been adding up since Mass Effect 1. F*** the galaxy because they're screwed no matter what you do. F*** any chance of happiness even if you survive because apparently you'll never see anyone you care about ever again with no space travel and them stuck on some backwater planet only accessible by galaxy destroying energy beam wormhole. It's like they took every opportunity to f*** you over in the end and give you no chance for a definitive ending that's good. They all suck.

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Pretty much.

The first game only came out four and a half years ago...😛

And there's two different importation issues I've been hearing about - the one where the appearance and a few decisions don't line up with what you had it at before, and one where it just plain will not recognize save files from the previous games.

Wow... Wow! That ending was phenominal.

Very powerful stuff.

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Don't lie who cried when several of the vastly superior ME2 squadmates were killed off?

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Um, spoilers?

Originally posted by ares834
Wow... Wow! That ending was phenominal.

Very powerful stuff.

Any ending was trash in my opinion.

If I do decide to pick it up again, I'll get all my stuff done and then stop right before the ending.

Originally posted by Toshi
Don't lie who cried when several of the vastly superior ME2 squadmates were killed off?

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I killed one of them myself. 😐

Anyway, Miranda lived for me so I was happy.

Originally posted by KingD19
Any ending was trash in my opinion.

If I do decide to pick it up again, I'll get all my stuff done and then stop right before the ending.

Heh.

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It reminded my of BSG and I loved that show so I was fine with the ending. A rainbow and sunshine ending where everyone survives and lives happily ever after would have been quite stupid IMO. But I can see why some would be less than enthusiastic about it.

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It's not that I wanted everything to come out sunshine and lollipops. I wanted my choices to matter like Bioware said they would. Everything I did was thrown out the window in those last few minutes and I was basically given an A B or C choice(all of which were horrendously bad) instead of something based off of everything I accomplished and all I did in all 3 games. Yeah, Earth is shit, but we beat the Reapers because every race in the galaxy, Geth included stood up against them. If I wanted to kill synthetics I wouldn't have worked so hard to get the geth and quarians working together. Etc...

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There is a fourth ending! Guys...calm down. It is the ending you're looking for. That ending requires you got to get a lot of military points (I don't remember how may but it is pretty much as you can possibly get). Once you pass a certain threshold, then when you save the galaxy, the Reapers die, and everyone is turned into hybrids: both tech and organic. That includes the Geth. Then you get a bonus cutscene that shows Shepherd gasp for air RIGHT as the camera cuts out. That ending was awesome. Just play your game a second time and focus on getting all of your military points while you play through (there are plenty of war-assets to obtain on various planets). IMO, the ending is worth the extra effort. Definitely do not look it up on youtube as it means a lot more if you earn the ending.

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Yeah, that's the one I got (Except I destroyed the Reapers). But I don't think the complaints come from the fact that Shepard died, but rather that the galaxy is sorta ****ed no matter what you do and that there is almost no closure. Like BSG the ending asks more questions than it answers. Now I don't have problem with this. Others do however.

Plus all the endings are pretty much the same.

Originally posted by dadudemon

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There is a fourth ending! Guys...calm down. It is the ending you're looking for. That ending requires you got to get a lot of military points (I don't remember how may but it is pretty much as you can possibly get). Once you pass a certain threshold, then when you save the galaxy, the Reapers die, and everyone is turned into hybrids: both tech and organic. That includes the Geth. Then you get a bonus cutscene that shows Shepherd gasp for air RIGHT as the camera cuts out. That ending was awesome. Just play your game a second time and focus on getting all of your military points while you play through (there are plenty of war-assets to obtain on various planets). IMO, the ending is worth the extra effort. Definitely do not look it up on youtube as it means a lot more if you earn the ending.

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that's the ending I got, minus shepherd gasping for breath. Personally I was happy with the endings. It took balls on Bioware's part to make an open ended ending like this, with an attempt at creating something that provokes thought and many emotions rather than just blind joy. People seemed to want a return of the jedi style ending, which would have been a dishonest slight against the tone of ME3

Originally posted by BackFire

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that's the ending I got, minus shepherd gasping for breath. Personally I was happy with the endings. It took balls on Bioware's part to make an open ended ending like this, with an attempt at creating something that provokes thought and many emotions rather than just blind joy. People seemed to want a return of the jedi style ending, which would have been a dishonest slight against the tone of ME3

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So what ever happened when the Crucible was active? I know it either destroys the Reapers or tell them to get out of our galaxy but what happened to everyone? Did all of technology (including the Geth and EDI) really get destroyed? If so, does that mean Admiral Hackett and everyone else in the fleet died since they were in ships...in space? What became of Joker and the rest of the Normandy crew after crash landing on some unknown world (assuming it isn't Earth)? How is it that nobody has reinvented space travel yet? What became of Wrex and the other aliens that are on Earth? I can only guess that they're mad as hell if they can't really get offworld.

I wasn't expecting a Return of the Jedi style ending exactly but still, what the heck Bioware?

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@Dadudemon. I got enough military assets to get all three endings(There's only 3. Synthesis(green), Control(blue), Destroy(red)). The first time I chose synthesis, and Shepard does not survive that one, as he gets turned into "code" basically to rewrite all organic and synthetic beings into hybrids. He also doesn't survive the "control the reapers" option. Only one he survives is Destroy the reapers. I've played through all 3.

@Blackfire

It didn't take balls to make an open ending. It took laziness. The devs promised how all your choices would matter and blah blah blah, and for a while they did. But when you got to the ending it didn't matter what you did really. And I and a lot of other fans feel betrayed. We've been with this franchies for 5+ years, this is the last game of a trilogy. People want closure, they want to feel like what they did mattered. They want to know if they had their little blue children with Liara while the galaxy was being rebuilt. Extremely bad move on their part, and there's nothing to defend it.

@Nemesis

In the "Destroy" ending, all synthetic life is done away with. Which is Reapers, EDI, and Geth at that point. Probably VI's as well. In every ending, all the Mass Relay's are destroyed. So while ships could more than likely still fly and everything, space travel was dependent on the Relay's to get from system to system. If they tried now they'd run out of fuel, starve, and dehydrate since FTL still isn't enough to get from System A to System F, or hell even System B.

The Normandy crash landing doesn't even make any sense. Joker is for some reason in a Mass Relay beam instead of at the final fight? He's got your squadmates that were supposedly dead or at least as injured as Shepard after getting hit with Harbingers beam. Etc...

It was just a big screw-up man.

Apparently there's an online petition in the Bioware forums to vote on whether or not there should be a new ending. The demand for a new one is overwhelming.

New ending - 86% (13538 votes)

No new ending - 3% (424 votes) haermm

Originally posted by KingD19

@Backfire

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It didn't take balls to make an open ending. It took laziness. The devs promised how all your choices would matter and blah blah blah, and for a while they did. But when you got to the ending it didn't matter what you did really. And I and a lot of other fans feel betrayed. We've been with this franchies for 5+ years, this is the last game of a trilogy. People want closure, they want to feel like what they did mattered. They want to know if they had their little blue children with Liara while the galaxy was being rebuilt. Extremely bad move on their part, and there's nothing to defend it.

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I feel it would have been more lazy to wrap everything up in a neat little package, and spell out everything for the player. They made the assumption that their player base would appreciate an ending that provokes thought and speculation. Perhaps they miscalculated, but I still give them credit for attempting an unconventional ending. I personally found the ending to be both emotionally fulfilling but fitting with the melancholy tone of the entire game.

I agree that it would have been nice if your choices throughout the series made a greater impact on the ending in particular. But there are some extremely potent decisions with massive ramifications throughout the rest of the game so it doesn't bother me too much.

Also, Bioware has all but said that there will be DLC that will take place after the ending occurs. These will surely offer more closure for those who want it.

And if you have enough military assets Shepherd will survive both the control/destroy reapers option. The only one where it is impossible for Shepherd to survive is the synthesis ending.

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I never did the Control ending. But the Catalyst kid outright said, something to the effect of. "Will you choose control? You'll die, but the Reapers will be under your command." Not word for word, but he basically told Shepard he'd die in order to take control of the Reapers. I read somewhere he transferred his consciousness or something.

And you don't leave the ending to a 6 year long trilogy that open. Especially after promising that whole schpiel about choices and stuff. People put so much effort into it because they wanted to know if the Krogan had another rebellion if you cured the Genophage. They wanted to know what happened with Shepard and his love interest. What happened with the Quarian and the Geth. I'm not in the minority. Like 90% of the entire Mass Effect fanbase is up in arms.

DLC is all fine and good, but it shouldn't have come to that. They mess up on the endings and then we have to pay to get what we expected and they promised in the first place? That's like an online ad for a computer with a 300 gig hard drive, then you buy the thing and find out it's only 20 gigs. Then the guy you bought it from says, oh, about that... I've got this thing that'll add 280 gigs to your computer, but you have to buy it in addition to what you already got.

For Christ's sake, stop calling it a six year long trilogy when I already pointed out that the first game came out just over four years ago.

Also, in a game like this where there are limited ending options, your choices are ultimately not going to matter much at all - this isn't Heavy Rain where it branches off into nearly 30 endings. And just because you don't like how it was done doesn't mean they messed up - just that you didn't like it.

Originally posted by BackFire

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that's the ending I got, minus shepherd gasping for breath. Personally I was happy with the endings. It took balls on Bioware's part to make an open ended ending like this, with an attempt at creating something that provokes thought and many emotions rather than just blind joy. People seemed to want a return of the jedi style ending, which would have been a dishonest slight against the tone of ME3

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You need more military points to get the special "bestest of all" ending that shows Sheppy allive. Yes...that means you can have the best ending....AND get Shep back alive.

Originally posted by BackFire

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I feel it would have been more lazy to wrap everything up in a neat little package, and spell out everything for the player.

That makes no sense. The exact literal opposite of what you said above is true.

Originally posted by KingD19

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@Dadudemon. I got enough military assets to get all three endings(There's only 3. Synthesis(green), Control(blue), Destroy(red)). The first time I chose synthesis, and Shepard does not survive that one, as he gets turned into "code" basically to rewrite all organic and synthetic beings into hybrids. He also doesn't survive the "control the reapers" option. Only one he survives is Destroy the reapers. I've played through all 3.

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You didn't get enough military points to see the additional cut-scene that shows Shep alive in the rubble of Reapers.

Originally posted by BackFire

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And if you have enough military assets Shepherd will survive both the control/destroy reapers option. The only one where it is impossible for Shepherd to survive is the synthesis ending.

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I did not know that. I thought it was only the synthesis option that you got the special ending.

Originally posted by Peach
For Christ's sake, stop calling it a six year long trilogy when I already pointed out that the first game came out just over four years ago.

Mass Effect: Revelation came out in May of 2007. So almost 5 years.

Add in that it was the "big show" with mild back stories and insight into the serise at the E3 2006 and 2007 conventions and it has been around in our minds as a story and franchise 6 years. This is what I think he has been meaning. This series has been a journey of almost 6 years for the big fans.