Black Canary Vs Captain America

Started by darthgoober7 pages

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I still don't know when that was.

Avengers 215 & 216

Originally posted by darthgoober
Avengers 215 & 216
Thanks.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Not really applicable because of Cap's shield being vibranium.

except that vibranium absorbs whatever sonic waves would hit it, no?

Originally posted by -Pr-
except that vibranium absorbs whatever sonic waves would hit it, no?

That's pretty much what it did...

I must not be getting what you're saying.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Nothing travels around Cap's shield Commie... 😛

But seriously, if Cap's shield can protect him from something like this without him being deafened...

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...I don't see why it couldn't protecting him from Canary's scream.

That should have cut his legs off. Looks like PIS to me, that or a really weak onslought from Klaw. If CA can hear regular sounds while holding the shield, he'll be downed by BC's scream. The attack will be everywhere, sound travels arround everything through diffraction. Only the portion that hits the shield directly should be absorbed.

Originally posted by 753
That should have cut his legs off. Looks like PIS to me, that or a really weak onslought from Klaw. If CA can hear regular sounds while holding the shield, he'll be downed by BC's scream. The attack will be everywhere, sound travels arround everything through diffraction. Only the portion that hits the shield directly should be absorbed.
Really?Come on dude.Its caps sheild. If anything could defend against an all around blast from one direction its cap's sheild. Its defies the logic of even comic physics.

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's pretty much what it did...

I must not be getting what you're saying.

Originally posted by 753
That should have cut his legs off. Looks like PIS to me, that or a really weak onslought from Klaw. If CA can hear regular sounds while holding the shield, he'll be downed by BC's scream. The attack will be everywhere, sound travels arround everything through diffraction. Only the portion that hits the shield directly should be absorbed.

^ thats what i was meaning.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Really?Come on dude.Its caps sheild. If anything could defend against an all around blast from one direction its cap's sheild. Its defies the logic of even comic physics.
The blast hit his legs as well.

edit. 753 beat me to it.

Originally posted by 753
The blast hit his legs as well.
Exactly.

Originally posted by 753
That should have cut his legs off. Looks like PIS to me, that or a really weak onslought from Klaw. If CA can hear regular sounds while holding the shield, he'll be downed by BC's scream. The attack will be everywhere, sound travels arround everything through diffraction. Only the portion that hits the shield directly should be absorbed.

Originally posted by 753
That should have cut his legs off. Looks like PIS to me, that or a really weak onslought from Klaw. If CA can hear regular sounds while holding the shield, he'll be downed by BC's scream. The attack will be everywhere, sound travels arround everything through diffraction. Only the portion that hits the shield directly should be absorbed.

It wasn't really focused on his legs though, Klaw was pretty much trying to take Cap out via sonics. When Canary uses a scream capable of hurting someone like Supes do the other people in the area grab their whole bodies or just their ears? And I know the physics of it is screwy, but that's just the way Cap's shield is. Think about it, if it really absorbed impact/kinetic energy it shouldn't hurt anyone to be hit with it. Welcome to the wonderful world of comics where people can lift a car(or even a building) with one hand without it collapsing from it's own weight.

As for sound going around objects to be everywhere, so does heat...
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Cap’s shield is just THAT good.

That's one of the reasons why I don't really like him. To much ****ed up logic even for comics.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It wasn't really focused on his legs though, Klaw was pretty much trying to take Cap out via sonics. When Canary uses a scream capable of hurting someone like Supes do the other people in the area grab their whole bodies or just their ears? And I know the physics of it is screwy, but that's just the way Cap's shield is. Think about it, if it really absorbed impact/kinetic energy it shouldn't hurt anyone to be hit with it. Welcome to the wonderful world of comics where people can lift a car(or even a building) with one hand without it collapsing from it's own weight.

As for sound going around objects to be everywhere, so does heat...
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav303808ue2.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav303809jx2.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav303810oh7.jpg

Cap’s shield is just THAT good.

it actually depends on her scream. she can focus or widen the blast as she pleases.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
That's one of the reasons why I don't really like him. To much ****ed up logic even for comics.
Caps shield is more PISy then thors hammer and the power cosmic combined.

Originally posted by -Pr-
it actually depends on her scream. she can focus or widen the blast as she pleases.

Ok, but I'm talking about specific instances. When she hurt Supes's ears with her scream did it physically hurt the legs of any humans in the area? Of course not, but that doesn't make the entire scene PIS. It's just the nature of comics(suspension of disbelief and all that)...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok, but I'm talking about specific instances. When she hurt Supes's ears with her scream did it physically hurt the legs of any humans in the area? Of course not, but that doesn't make the entire scene PIS. It's just the nature of comics(suspension of disbelief and all that)...

or that she can focus her scream in to a narrow or wide blast. 😛

Originally posted by darthgoober
It wasn't really focused on his legs though, Klaw was pretty much trying to take Cap out via sonics. When Canary uses a scream capable of hurting someone like Supes do the other people in the area grab their whole bodies or just their ears? And I know the physics of it is screwy, but that's just the way Cap's shield is. Think about it, if it really absorbed impact/kinetic energy it shouldn't hurt anyone to be hit with it. Welcome to the wonderful world of comics where people can lift a car(or even a building) with one hand without it collapsing from it's own weight.

As for sound going around objects to be everywhere, so does heat...
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav303808ue2.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav303809jx2.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav303810oh7.jpg

Cap’s shield is just THAT good.

It remains PIS or a weak blow, at least to his legs.

BC can control the direction and spatial amplitude of the sound blast like some devices can, so she focuses the effects on a targetted volume in space to avoid collateral damage, but she can just blanket the whole battlefield the way a regular scream would. In an arena setting with no civilians, that's what she'd do.

Surrounding heat did affect him and the the rays themselves didnt hit his body, unlike Klaw.

He has no real defense against it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
or that she can focus her scream in to a narrow or wide blast. 😛

Hey if it's a wide blast that can hurt someone like Supes it should pretty much destroy any humans in the area.

Originally posted by 753
It remains PIS or a weak blow, at least to his legs.

BC can control the direction and spatial amplitude of the sound blast like some devices can, so she focuses the effects on a targetted volume in space to avoid collateral damage, but she can just blanket the whole battlefield the way a regular scream would. In an arena setting with no civilians, that's what she'd do.

Surrounding heat did affect him and the the rays themselves didnt hit his body, unlike Klaw.

He has no real defense against it.


It's not PIS dude, it's the nature of vibranium and comics. What you're arguing is no different than someone arguing that it's PIS for a human to take a bullet when they're wearing a bullet proof vest or to fly with something like rocket boots(which would NOT work in the real world). I also don't know why you'd assume it was a weak attack just because Cap's legs were ok. I'm not a peak human wearing armor and my legs can handle being exposed to some pretty high levels of sound without suffering any damage...

Klaw can do all of that and then some.

Sure the heat effected him and there's not a doubt in my mind that he'd hear enough of Canary's scream to know that it was happening, but if his shield absorbs the bulk of the scream there's no reason the rest would be guaranteed to take out Cap. I mean he heard sound when he went through that ordeal with Klaw(narration even talks about it), it just that his shield is THAT good.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey if it's a wide blast that can hurt someone like Supes it should pretty much destroy any humans in the area.

which instance are you talking about?

Originally posted by -Pr-
which instance are you talking about?

I'm not sure, I've just heard that she's dropped Supes and other Supes level people before.