Black Canary Vs Captain America

Started by -Pr-7 pages
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not sure, I've just heard that she's dropped Supes and other Supes level people before.

ah.

the problem (as i seee it) is that she has such fine control over her scream that if she wanted to do a wide enough one that probably would liquify cap's brain, i don't see her not doing it. this is the woman that can hold a pool ball in her hand and make it crumble, or shatter an SUV flying through the air.

like (i think it was) 753, the shield shouldn't be able to absorb the entire sonic blast if it's not hitting the shield.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not sure, I've just heard that she's dropped Supes and other Supes level people before.

The argument I remember hearing is that Black Canary matched Silver Banshee (Jeanette) in a screaming match and Jeanette took down Wonder Woman with her scream.

Banshee has a magic element to her scream, though... Doesn't she?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Banshee has a magic element to her scream, though... Doesn't she?

I'm not sure if the magic element came into play so much as did the pure force and the fact that she caught Diana off guard with it.

In either case magic makes little difference to someone like Wonder Woman, she's not immune or anything but she's generally resistant to some degree.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm not sure if the magic element came into play so much as did the pure force and the fact that she caught Diana off guard with it.

In either case magic makes little difference to someone like Wonder Woman, she's not immune or anything but she's generally resistant to some degree.

bleh. i misunderstood your post. my bad.

Originally posted by -Pr-
ah.

the problem (as i seee it) is that she has such fine control over her scream that if she wanted to do a wide enough one that probably would liquify cap's brain, i don't see her not doing it. this is the woman that can hold a pool ball in her hand and make it crumble, or shatter an SUV flying through the air.

like (i think it was) 753, the shield shouldn't be able to absorb the entire sonic blast if it's not hitting the shield.

Yeah but she has line of sight and an unobstructed path for the pool ball and SUV, now if she's ever done something like destoy a pool ball pressed up against the opposite side of the SUV without damaging the SUV itself you might have a point.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey if it's a wide blast that can hurt someone like Supes it should pretty much destroy any humans in the area.

It's not PIS dude, it's the nature of vibranium and comics. What you're arguing is no different than someone arguing that it's PIS for a human to take a bullet when they're wearing a bullet proof vest or to fly with something like rocket boots(which would NOT work in the real world). I also don't know why you'd assume it was a weak attack just because Cap's legs were ok. I'm not a peak human wearing armor and my legs can handle being exposed to some pretty high levels of sound without suffering any damage...

I can't see a conection between any of these examples you listed and what happened there with klaw and CA.

If his peak human durabilty was enough to tank it, then it wasn't that big of a deal, but he was sure he would be killed instants before. BC's scream can destroy things a lot more durable than CA's body, she'd liquify his innards. That scan shows that CA still got tagged by Klaw despite the shield, because it only covers a small part of his body.

Klaw can do all of that and then some.
Maybe he can, but he obviously didn't.

Sure the heat effected him and there's not a doubt in my mind that he'd hear enough of Canary's scream to know that it was happening, but if his shield absorbs the bulk of the scream there's no reason the rest would be guaranteed to take out Cap. I mean he heard sound when he went through that ordeal with Klaw(narration even talks about it), it just that his shield is THAT good.

Only what hits the shield directly will be absorbed, the rest will hit CA, since the shield is small and sound diffracts arround objects, a much bigger portion of the blast will hit CA than the one that will be absorbed.

Originally posted by 753
I can't see a conection between any of these examples you listed and what happened there with klaw and CA.

If his peak human durabilty was enough to tank it, then it wasn't that big of a deal, he was sure he would be killed instants before. BC's scream can destroy things a lot more durable than CA's body, she'd liquify his innards. That scan that CA still got tagged by Klaw despite the shield, because it only covers a small part of his body.

Maybe he can, but he obviously didn't.

Only what hits the shield directly will be absorbed, the rest will hit CA, since the shield is small and sound diffracts arround objects, a much bigger portion of the blast hit CA than be absorbed.


Simple, because it's vibranium and has been written as doing so the shield protects against sonic attacks it's a lot like the bullets/bulletproof vest thing. Because it's an unrealistic device by real world standards, it's like the rocket boots.

Has she ever liquified an entire human being before?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Simple, because it's vibranium and has been written as doing so the shield protects against sonic attacks it's a lot like the bullets/bulletproof vest thing. Because it's an unrealistic device by real world standards, it's like the rocket boots.

Has she ever liquified an entire human being before?


Not to my knowledge, but she has destroyed a small mountain before.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Simple, because it's vibranium and has been written as doing so the shield protects against sonic attacks it's a lot like the bullets/bulletproof vest thing. Because it's an unrealistic device by real world standards, it's like the rocket boots.

Has she ever liquified an entire human being before?

I think she did it in blackest night.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not to my knowledge, but she has destroyed a small mountain before.

Generally speaking things made of stone are more susuptable to sonic attacks because the vibrations cause it to shatter. Organic stuff is harder to cause direct damage on because it can move around and vibrate freely without breaking.

Originally posted by 753
I think she did it in blackest night.

Circumstances or scans?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Generally speaking things made of stone are more susuptable to sonic attacks because the vibrations cause it to shatter. Organic stuff is harder to cause direct damage on because it can move around and vibrate freely without breaking.

Bones shatter.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Bones shatter.

Bones are covered in soft flesh/muscle. That's not to say that there aren't vulnerable points of course, just that those are points.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Circumstances or scans?
Black Lantern Oliver. She was just pissed off.

How do I post an image in its actual size here?

Originally posted by 753
How do I post an image in its actual size here?

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Originally posted by Parmaniac
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the whole url?

Originally posted by 753
Black Lantern Oliver. She was just pissed off.

Impressive, but then again that's a full powered scream that's unobstructed and at point blank range. Her being able to do that in no way proves that she could get Cap behind his shield with the ambient sound alone. Plus by your logic it was obviously just PIS since the guys legs were undamaged 😛 .

And that's ignoring the fact that Cap's a hero and her own CIS would likely prevernt her from doing that just as Cap's would keep him from decapitating another hero with his shield right out of the gate.

yes, but if she has the power to do that she can ko him with less. I still see no reason why she wouldnt get him behind the shield. she also has the power to ko everyone within listening range with ultrasounds.