Originally posted by 753
yes, but if she has the power to do that she can ko him with less. I still see no reason why she wouldnt get him behind the shield. she also has the power to ko everyone within listening range with ultrasounds.
Originally posted by darthgooberbecause he was so close the blast didnt reach them as it expanded outwards. It makes no difference to this. He's defenseless.
If she can get a strong enough sound to his head while it's behind his shield sure she could, but the fact that Klaw couldn't leads me to believe she couldn't. After all her scream didn't seem to damage that guys legs...
Originally posted by 753
because he was so close the blast didnt reach them as it expanded outwards. It makes no difference to this. He's defenseless.
Originally posted by 753
Again, no connection. the shield isnt a sponge that can absorb surrounding enrrgy, only what hits it. A lot more enrgy will reach CA's body than will be absorbed by the shield.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
If Cap's shield was some kind of passive, omnidirectional barrier against soundwaves then he'd never be able to hear.Oh well, another example of comic book physics at work.
Originally posted by darthgooberbecause of the shield's size and the properties of sound and BC's feats of reach, we know that more energy will hit CA than be absorbed by the shield. she has destroyed cars, mountains, hurt supergirl badly, desintegrated ollie, etc. it's more than enough raw power to destroy CA and she cna ko him with a lot less, such as ultrasounds that affect the brain. the shield wont stop sound from reaching his body, he isn't deaf when using it. the attack would literally be coming at him from all directions and angles.
And the energy that doesn't hit the shield will go around Cap. Some sound might spread once it's past the shield so that Cap still hears it, but you've shown nothing to suggest that the ambient sound that would remain would cause any kind of phyical damage, Klaw's certainly didn't.
she could make him cringe in pain, ko him, liquify him, blow his eardrums, etc. the shield is not a plausible defense. you'd be better off arguing that with CIS on she's more likely to engage him h2h and lose before screaming
Originally posted by 753
because of the shield's size and the properties of sound and BC's feats of reach, we know that more energy will hit CA than be absorbed by the shield. she has destroyed cars, mountains, hurt supergirl badly, desintegrated ollie, etc. it's more than enough raw power to destroy CA and she cna ko him with a lot less, such as ultrasounds that affect the brain. the shield wont stop sound from reaching his body, he isn't deaf when using it. the attack would literally be coming at him from all directions and angles.she could make him cringe in pain, ko him, liquify him, blow his eardrums, etc. the shield is not a plausible defense. you'd be better off arguing that with CIS on she's more likely to engage him h2h and lose before screaming
She might make him cringe from his ears ringing, but that's about it. And the shield IS a plausible defense because it was specifically written as being one. If you're going to ignore that then I'm going to ignore what DC says and just go with a theory of my own that says that BC can't hurt ANYONE with her scream. And any instance you provide of her doing so is just PIS. For that matter, from now on GL rings can't create constructs and Thor's hammer can't return to him when it's thrown...
Originally posted by darthgooberwhat leftover? what are you even talking about?
We don't know that at all, because you haven't shown anything from her to suggest that athe ambient sound left over will actually damage Cap. Klaw's got quite a few feats to his credit to and he was amped during his encounter with Cap. But despite his powerup there wasn't enough sound left to actually cause Cap any damage. He still heard noise from Klaw so some of the leftover ambient sound definately got to him, but it wasn't enough to do actually do anything. If Cap gets his shield up, she'll be lucky to leave him with his ears ringing.
Her attack would be equally powerfull on all the points it hit.There is no reason to assume the bulk of it would be absorbed by a shield that doesn't drain energy from its surroundings and just absorbs what happens to hit it. Whatever doesn't hit the shield - the majority of the blast given its size and sound's diffracting properties - will hit him and should put him down given his durabilty and her offensive power. the shield doesnt create a force-field of any kind arround him.
Klaw's attack was either very weak or terrible writing/PIS, since CA isn't even bulletproof but his body could tank it without the shield. If Klaw really was packing the implied level of power, CA should have been cut in half. Then again it looks like he is deliberatelly targeting the shield like a moron in an atempt to break it. Example of PIS that pins CA against enemies he should never take down, but does anyway because the plot demands it.
Dinah's attack isn't unidirectional and would just blanket the field. Her feats show she could rip him to pieces.
I'll just go ahead and facepalm this paragraph facepalm
She might make him cringe from his ears ringing, but that's about it. And the shield IS a plausible defense because it was specifically written as being one. If you're going to ignore that then I'm going to ignore what DC says and just go with a theory of my own that says that BC can't hurt ANYONE with her scream. And any instance you provide of her doing so is just PIS. For that matter, from now on GL rings can't create constructs and Thor's hammer can't return to him when it's thrown... [/B]
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah but she has line of sight and an unobstructed path for the pool ball and SUV, now if she's ever done something like destoy a pool ball pressed up against the opposite side of the SUV without damaging the SUV itself you might have a point.
it's not the same thing imo, considering the shield can't cover cap's entire body.
its pis that Cap's shield tend to protect his entire body but no one has taken into account his uniform being special material and his boots appears to be made of the same material as his gloves and we know hoe resistant those are.
plus, lets also realize that BC is still being hampered by Cis... is she goin to try and incinerate a human hero?