Black Canary Vs Captain America

Originally posted by 753
what leftover? what are you even talking about?

Originally posted by 753
Her attack would be equally powerfull on all the points it hit.There is no reason to assume the bulk of it would be absorbed by a shield that doesn't drain energy from its surroundings and just absorbs what happens to hit it. Whatever doesn't hit the shield - the majority of the blast given its size and sound's diffracting properties - will hit him and should put him down given his durabilty and her offensive power. the shield doesnt create a force-field of any kind arround him.

Originally posted by 753

Klaw's attack was either very weak or terrible writing/PIS, since CA isn't even bulletproof but his body could tank it without the shield. If Klaw really was packing the implied level of power, CA should have been cut in half. Then again it looks like he is deliberatelly targeting the shield like a moron in an atempt to break it. Example of PIS that pins CA against enemies he should never take down, but does anyway because the plot demands it.

Originally posted by 753
Dinah's attack isn't unidirectional and would just blanket the field. Her feats show she could rip him to pieces.

Originally posted by 753
I'll just go ahead and facepalm this paragraph facepalm

Originally posted by King Castle
its pis that Cap's shield tend to protect his entire body but no one has taken into account his uniform being special material and his boots appears to be made of the same material as his gloves and we know hoe resistant those are.

plus, lets also realize that BC is still being hampered by Cis... is she goin to try and incinerate a human hero?

Originally posted by -Pr-
it's not the same thing imo, considering the shield can't cover cap's entire body.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You said that more energy would reach him than his shield would absorb, hence there’d be leftover energy.

Proof that she can blanket the field with sound as strong as you’re talking about? You’ve shown one scan that took place at point blank range and left the guys legs intact.

Canary’s scream hit the guys legs and they were ok.

Her feats are PIS, her scream can’t do anything but hurt people’s ears.

Don’t blame me, you set the standard…

Originally posted by 753
Now these are actual arguments. With CIS on he cna take some, but she still gets the majority, her less than lethal ways are very effective, she just KOs him with ultrasounds like Syrin does.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I pointed out the fact that Cap was wearing armor earlier...

Originally posted by 753
the portion of energy that does hit him wouldnt be weakened by the shield absorbing what hits it as you implied

Originally posted by 753
destroyed a mountain

Originally posted by 753
looking at the art I dont think they hit the part that survived, his thigh were gone.

Originally posted by 753
your trolling skills need polishing

Originally posted by 753
sure thing buddy.

Originally posted by 753
Now these are actual arguments. With CIS on he cna take some, but she still gets the majority, her less than lethal ways are very effective, she just KOs him with ultrasounds like Syrin does.

not sure if she can do it on her own.

plus, captain america was tanking ironman's high frequency attacks that was paralyzing disorienting and ko'ing other heroes all varying in powersets and yet cap wouldnt fall down.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The part that reaches his ears WILL be weakened.

Like I already said crumbling stone is different than liquifing flesh because flesh can bend without shattering.

So that's what we can it when people ignore evidence?

Originally posted by King Castle
has BC ko'ed anyone with a high frequency without the help of Doctor Mid- night lifting her and manipulating her diaphram?

not sure if she can do it on her own.

plus, captain america was tanking ironman's high frequency attacks that was paralyzing disorienting and ko'ing other heroes all varying in powersets and yet cap would fall down.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It can if he crouches. And unless she's screaming hard enough to liquify flesh(something that she hasn't been shown to be able to do at anything other than point blank range to my knowledge), it hitting his legs and such wouldn't matter because it would have to reach his ears.

why would it have to hit his ears? it's concussive as well as sonic.

but, nothin to suggest she can Ko anyone on her own like she did with the help of Dr. mid nite who help her physically reach those frequency and even if she could i say Cap would last long enough to toss his shield at her.

normally from what i can see she uses her scream to destroy stuff not very subtle in her application of her ability to reach ultra sonic frequencies.

it could be possible but it isnt the norm of her ability nor likely constant attack.

don't take this the wrong way, but you need to read more, then.

its bn taken the wrong way
http://www.funnychill.com/files/funny-pictures/hand-slap-mark.jpg

care to mention when she went ultra sonic ko ppl without the help of Dr. mid-nite?

Originally posted by 753
didn't see it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey if it's a wide blast that can hurt someone like Supes it should pretty much destroy any humans in the area.

It's not PIS dude, it's the nature of vibranium and comics. What you're arguing is no different than someone arguing that it's PIS for a human to take a bullet when they're wearing a bullet proof vest or to fly with something like rocket boots(which would NOT work in the real world). I also don't know why you'd assume it was a weak attack just because Cap's legs were ok. I'm not a peak human wearing armor and my legs can handle being exposed to some pretty high levels of sound without suffering any damage...

Klaw can do all of that and then some.

Sure the heat effected him and there's not a doubt in my mind that he'd hear enough of Canary's scream to know that it was happening, but if his shield absorbs the bulk of the scream there's no reason the rest would be guaranteed to take out Cap. I mean he heard sound when he went through that ordeal with Klaw(narration even talks about it), it just that his shield is THAT good.

Originally posted by 753
then klaw's attacks were of less power than it takes to destroy the armor. is it bulet proof? how durable is it?

Cap gets buit by Ulik...
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Irnoman examines the damage and compliments Cap’s armor...
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Originally posted by 753
why? pray tell

Originally posted by 753
and I showed she can desintegrate flesh too, not that she needs to or would. claiming it would take more power to put a peak human down than to destroy a mountain is absurd anyways. even if flesh doesnt shatter like stone he'd be completely ****ed up

Originally posted by 753
that's right

Originally posted by -Pr-
why would it have to hit his ears? it's concussive as well as sonic.

actually, its more than possible for caps shield to absorb the sound. have you ever heard of sound walls? they use them in recording and stuff, they absorb area of effect sound to change the way it sounds to us. so yes, caps shield could definitely absorb the brunt of her scream

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
actually, its more than possible for caps shield to absorb the sound. have you ever heard of sound walls? they use them in recording and stuff, they absorb area of effect sound to change the way it sounds to us. so yes, caps shield could definitely absorb the brunt of her scream

Sound waves would bend arround the edges of the shield propagating in the volume behind it. Klaw didnt do that, but that's just Klaw who actually behaves as light instead of sound. BC's scream certainly diffracts and she has the power output to take CA out shield, or no shield.

The shield can't cover his whole body either.

^ Cap's shield has blocked AoE blasts many times while he hides behind it. Human Torch went all-out nova blast a few dozen feet away from him and Cap just crouched behind his shield. It's natural to think that the heat would wrap around his shield and incinerate him -- which is exactly what Johnny feared until Cap ordered him to do it it -- but it didn't hurt Cap even though it fried Ultron's internal circitry and exhausted Johnny. He also hid behind his shield when a nuclear submarine self-destructed and he was INSIDE the submarine's launch tube and wasn't killed, just thrown for a loop.

When you have AoE attacks, for whatever reason, the concussive forces/heat/energy just splashes around him and leaves him relatively unscathed when he hides behind his shield (even if it doesn't completely cover his body). It's just how his shield works.

I think that's how the need to keep a character alive works. The shield does not propject a force-field arround him and on some occasions he can be seen suffering the environmental effects of the area attacks even if the blast does not touch him directly.

The fire from the nova blast wouldn't bend behind the shield, but the hot air should still have harmed him.

Since he isn't deafened by use of the shield I stick by my point, sound can still reach him behind the shield.