Originally posted by truejedi
exactly, kenobi doesn't mock Anakin in what was a close fight. He doesn't mock Dooku. He just mocks ventress and grievous, two foes he WTFpwns.
Obviously he wasnt gna mock Anakin.. "haha u loser u chose the dark side"
And he was too busy getting whooped by Dooku to mock him.
Dooku is just as skilled as Anakin with a blade and far superior to him in Force knowledge and power.
Anakin has raw power which, if put to use in the right mindstate, can shit on somebody. What we saw in ROTS was an occurence of random happenings. Dooku was owning both of them before Anakin went apeshit. Now, if Maul is dealing with Kenobi in another room......
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Dooku is just as skilled as Anakin with a blade and far superior to him in Force knowledge and power.Anakin has raw power which, if put to use in the right mindstate, can shit on somebody. What we saw in ROTS was an occurence of random happenings. Dooku was owning both of them before Anakin went apeshit. Now, if Maul is dealing with Kenobi in another room......
I would be convinced by this argument if I didnt see Count Dooku having difficulty taking out Anakin alone in the CW movie. Anakin gets stronger as the fight goes on. Dooku's best chance is to take out Anakin early in the fight, best chance would be with the Force.
But again judging by the fight in CW that doesnt seen likely.
What you saw in the Clone Wars film was that Anakin and Dooku are comparable in swordmanship and that Dooku is Anakin's superior in the Force.
Remember, Dooku stood up to Yoda in a lightsaber duel and a force fight. I don't think Anakin belongs in the same class as Yoda nor would he be able to entertain Yoda with the Force to the extent that Dooku did.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
What you saw in the Clone Wars film was that Anakin and Dooku are comparable in swordmanship and that Dooku is Anakin's superior in the Force.Remember, Dooku stood up to Yoda in a lightsaber duel and a force fight. I don't think Anakin belongs in the same class as Yoda nor would he be able to entertain Yoda with the Force to the extent that Dooku did.
Darth Martin, dude, really man, Dooku did anything BUT stand up to Yoda in a Force contest. Dooku is like a child compared to Master Yoda.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
What you saw in the Clone Wars film was that Anakin and Dooku are comparable in swordmanship and that Dooku is Anakin's superior in the Force.Remember, Dooku stood up to Yoda in a lightsaber duel and a force fight. I don't think Anakin belongs in the same class as Yoda nor would he be able to entertain Yoda with the Force to the extent that Dooku did.
My point was only that the CW movie showed Dooku does not seem to be able to take Anakin out quickly and easily even one on one. And the more time Anakin has, the stronger he gets, and the more chance there is of him finding that clarity in his state of mind to win.
But the CW movie also clearly showed Anakin is no match for Dooku in the Force. So Dooku's best chance against a ROTS Anakin(or a time period close to ROTS) would be an all out Force Attack.
I do wonder why when Anakin was disarmed and lying on the floor Dooku didnt follow up with another Force attack, Force Lightning maybe, or summon Anakin's lightsaber to his own hand??
Originally posted by axel_jovan
"Much to learn you still have."
Yoda''s assessment of Dooku's efforts says it all.
I wuldnt go by that.. Yoda also says "Powerful you have become Dooku," and "Fought well you have my former padawan"
Whilst Dooku claims the Force fight was a draw, "Clearly this contest can not be decided by our knowledge of the Force.."
Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
Darth Martin, dude, really man, Dooku did anything BUT stand up to Yoda in a Force contest. Dooku is like a child compared to Master Yoda.
And yet the AOTC novel states Yoda was deflecting Dooku's blasts "Far from easily" and that Yoda was "exhausted" after their fight.
We all know Yoda is greater to Dooku, but I think people here serisouly underestimate Dooku. After all if Yoda was so much uber greater than Dooku, then why culd'nt Yoda stop him escaping??
Why didnt he take him out with the Force, instead of agreeing to Dooku's terms of switching the fight to a Saber fight?? And why didnt he disarm Dooku the way Anakin did??
Also in "Schism" when Mace Windu asks Yoda to spar Yoda replies "Practice I had against Count Dooku.. Good enough for me that was.."
So clearly all the evidence shows the Dooku fight was not an easy one for Yoda.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
They uh... they actually... showed why he couldn't in the movie. I'd... recommend watching it.
Hey if we're going just by what we saw then I could argue it looked like a draw, and Dooku only escaped because he culdnt beat Yoda, not because he was losing.. You see how that works??
But what is it im supposed to have seen anyway? The distraction right?? And what about before that?? what about during the force fight??
If Yoda is so much uber greater in the force than Dooku, then why didnt he just stop him at that point?? Why did he agree to Dooku's terms of switching it to a Saber fight??
If Dooku is absolutely no where close to Yoda, why was it taking Yoda so long to disarm him in the saber fight?
Originally posted by truejedi
Are the novel's still canon?
Still canon?? why wuldnt they be??
We only ignore the novels where they contradict what happened in the movies.
But they give us a greater insight into whats going on in a fight scene for example.. In fact its the only source that tells us Yoda was actually kicking Dooku's ass in the saber fight, otherwise we wuldnt know that.