Dooku and Maul vs ROTS Anakin and ROTS Obi Wan

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
You have to remember Dooku had more advantages in this duel than Yoda. He had the element of surprise, he had a power boost that he was able to take full advantage of from the dark side nexus, and they were fighting in his territory (a separatist strong hold). All this and he was still forced to flee.

Well it's there, trust me. I'm not going over all that again.

What are you saying?

Originally posted by DrunknClockwork
This is irrelevant. We're not discussing how the fight would've played out if Dooku hadn't had those advantages; we're discussing if Dooku lost the given duel or not.

Originally posted by DrunknClockwork
If the fight had dragged on, Yoda's Ataru, arguably the physically most demanding form due to it's flips and spins, would've become weaker and weaker. Yoda has to take out his opponents fast (which he couldn't do in this case) or face the consequences later. Dooku on the other hand got a constant force boost from Vjun, which combined with his power-efficient Makashi geared him to a long battle.
That's why I think Dooku's chances of victory were quite high there. But as things went now, it was a stalemate.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
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Well it's there, trust me. I'm not going over all that again.
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Trust me theres nothing there. Iv asked that question many times and got nothing, and if I did get a reply it was nothing but vague and unsupported speculation.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
You have to remember Dooku had more advantages in this duel than Yoda.

Yes.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
He had the element of surprise,

Not really. Yoda always knew it was probably a trap. And when Dooku threw the innocent, Yoda noted Dooku had a chance to kill him but didnt take it.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
he had a power boost that he was able to take full advantage of from the dark side nexus,

Yes. He needed some advantage to be Yoda's equal in Sabers. But lets not forget the Darkness of Vjun was also making Yoda far more ruthless than usual.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
What are you saying?

That it was a Draw maybe??

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
This is irrelevant. We're not discussing how the fight would've played out if Yoda's Ataru had failed; we're discussing if Yoda won the given duel or not.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yes.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Not really. Yoda always knew it was probably a trap. And when Dooku threw the innocent, Yoda noted Dooku had a chance to kill him but didnt take it.

He didn't kill him because he couldn't. Notice how Yoda also says that he has faced and survived many dangerous situations throughout his long life. He was letting Dooku know that Dooku's chances of killing him were very very slim.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yes. He needed some advantage to be Yoda's equal in Sabers. But lets not forget the Darkness of Vjun was also making Yoda far more ruthless than usual.

Yoda was also trying to calm himself during the duel. He was not taking full advantage of the dark side nexus the way Dooku was. And it never said it was making Yoda FAR more ruthless than usual. You're exaggerrating.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
That it was a Draw maybe??

But we know it wasn't. Dooku ran.... both times.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66

He didn't kill him because he couldn't. Notice how Yoda also says that he has faced and survived many dangerous situations throughout his long life. He was letting Dooku know that Dooku's chances of killing him were very very slim.

Yoda says you should have killed me when you had the chance.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66

He wasn't Yoda's equal though. Not even close. That's why he ran.

Not even close?! How do you figure. He parried Yoda's every blow, and his blows came very close to hitting Yoda.
Him running has already been explained to you.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66

You're exaggerrating.

"in the dark, drunken Vjun air, Yoda was terrible to behold"

"And yet, even here on Vjun, where the dark side whispers and whispers to me... love you enough to destroy you I do"

"In the dark Vjun air it was all he could do not to leap after Dooku, to fall on him like a green thunderbolt and annihilate him utterly."

As you can see, I wasnt exaggerating at all.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
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But we know it wasn't. Dooku ran.... both times.

Enough with the running. Its been explained to you many times but you have a one track mind. So Yoda ran from Sidious, because Sidious was clearly more powerful right? And Yoda was scared of him right?

Its called a tactical retreat when you know your not gna win, so its time to leave.

If Dooku is not holding back and taunting ROTS Anakin into rage team 1 might have a chance here…

Dooku taunts Anakin and he crumbles. Then Kenobi gets stomped.

I would not be surprised if Anakin’s death brought on some godlike state that would compel Kenobi to solo tbh

Obi-Wan=Maul.

Anakin>Dooku.

Team 2.

Doesn't change the fact that Dooku broke Anakin with a single insult, lmao.

@cuckedcurry Same.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
Doesn't change the fact that Dooku broke Anakin with a single insult, lmao.

I wouldn’t say he broke Anakin. Just broke his momentum. Either way it wouldn’t be as effective with Kenobi present and Dooku being busy with trying to cooridinate Maul.