John McClane versus Rorschach...

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John McClane versus Rorschach...

McClane (Live Free or Die Hard) is investigating the murder of the Comedian. He is in the Comedian's apartment, looking for clues, when Rorschach appears through the window. Rorschach sees McClane, and, thinking he is responsible for the death of the Comedian, advances on him.

McClane draws his weapon and tries to tell Rorschach he is a cop, but Rorschach kicks the gun out of Mac's hand, sending it flying across the room.

H2H combat to the death. And they can use anything around them as weapons. Who wins?

ink dots...,to easy. Spite?

I know you pretend to be a hardcore mcClane fan but are still a Riggs fan first.

No, why is it spite? McClane has mad damage soak, and no one is better at using their surroundings.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, why is it spite? McClane has mad damage soak, and no one is better at using their surroundings.
🙄 mmmmk, jus makin sure.
Ink dots just seems like a one sided stomp to me. McClane is the man for sure but Ink dots is a beast of a different nature.

Yeah pretty much, McClane isn't going to win.

the 'shach stomps

You guys need to watch DH 3 again.

You need to use logic and be realistic.

I am. Rorschach is just a man. Tough as nails, but just a man. McClane'll no doubt take a severe beating, but he'll win in the end. Look at when he fought squirrel boy.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am. Rorschach is just a man. Tough as nails, but just a man. McClane'll no doubt take a severe beating, but he'll win in the end. Look at when he fought squirrel boy.

Rorschach had above human stats dude. McClane is tough as nails. I'm not saying it's going to be a curbstomp, but it's a H2H match. Rorschach will simply beat McClane in the end.

Originally posted by Kaibs
Rorschach had above human stats dude. McClane is tough as nails. I'm not saying it's going to be a curbstomp, but it's a H2H match. Rorschach will simply beat McClane in the end.
Rorschach had close to or at peak human stats, not above human stats. Not even close. Name them.

McClane easily, once he panics Rorschach by grabbing, removing and zippoing his "face" after absorbing punishment for a bit.

Onscreen feats count here and 4 movies and no death
vs 1 movie and Rorschach being killed in unarmed combat by a smurf.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

No way does Rorschach have the luck to beat McClane either.
If there are objects in the vicinity, all of them end up in Rorschach's ass.

The end.

🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
4 movies and no death

🙂

This is why I chose LFODH Mac.

Originally posted by Kaibs
Rorschach had above human stats dude. McClane is tough as nails. I'm not saying it's going to be a curbstomp, but it's a H2H match. Rorschach will simply beat McClane in the end.

McClane also has above human stats, judging by all four Die hard movies.
In endurance, ridiculous and obscene amounts of luck, grit, inventiveness, resourcefulness, stamina, the ability to make all your opponents dead, the uses of both zippo and SUV at will.

Giving McClane objects to use just clinches it. 😛

I love the smell of butthurt threads in the morning.
You know, one time we had threads like this, for three hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that smell, the whole thread... smelled like victory.... some day these days of rectal pain are gonna end.

😛

Butthurt thread how? I'm kinda going with Mac here, if you didn't notice.

Roscharch will beat McClane's ass like a red-headed stepchild...

"Like most characters in Watchmen, Rorschach has no obvious "super powers." He merely has his will and technical abilities. Rorschach uses any and all weapons that are available at the time, such as pepper[6] to blind a police officer and the use of hairspray in combination with a match to set fire to another police officer, during a confrontation at Moloch's house. During the series he uses cooking fat, a toilet bowl, a cigarette, a fork and his jacket all as weapons. He owns a gas-powered grappling gun, which he uses to climb buildings (and once as a makeshift harpoon gun against a police officer), as seen in Chapter 1, which was designed and built by Nite Owl II.

Rorschach is well versed in street combat, gymnastics, and boxing. In the course of the limited series he shows the ability to beat multiple armed assailants with little difficulty. Rorschach is also relatively indifferent to physical pain and discomfort, shown when he walks through Antarctica in only a trench coat. Due to his time in juvenile detention facilities and group homes as a child he is as street savvy as any criminal. Rorschach also demonstrates the ability to break into a variety of locked buildings and homes, suggesting the expertise of a master thief. He is also shown to be extremely strong. This is demonstrated when he shatters a toilet bowl by kicking it once, and easily breaking through a heavy duty door lock.

Despite his mental instability, Rorschach was described as "tactically brilliant, and unpredictable" by Nite Owl, and possesses surprisingly good detective skills."
Wikipedia

There wasn't one single thing that McClane could do that Roscharch couldn't do better.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, why is it spite? McClane has mad damage soak, and no one is better at using their surroundings.

Uhhhh...Jackie Chan is.

😐

Just sayin'.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
No way does Rorschach have the luck to beat McClane either.
If there are objects in the vicinity, all of them end up in Rorschach's ass.

The end.

🙂

😆 😆 😆 😆

All of them in his *ss!

crylaugh

My take: Rorschach has durability that far exceeds a regular human. No human could survive getting kicked 30+ feet...much less, boucning off of "sharp" steps in the process. The impact from the force would kill the person.

Rorschach makes his own luck. Also, when he died, it was suicide, not death. He made a decision to die so that his moral convictions wouldn't have to be sacrificed.

And, I'm quite sure that ol' Rori is superhuman by reality standards...he's just not considered superhuman in the Watchmen universe.

No human could survive a lot of what McClane did either.
The Cable/Ship drop in DieHard3 was just a taster.
Rorschach's cited feat was a one off, McClanes were plentiful and spread over 4 movies of constant endurance and triumph.

McClane's luck, as considerable as it is, is only really an aid to his decision making outcomes.

IE: McClane could have all the luck in the world, but unless he swung off of the building in DH1 (luckily surviving, you might argue) , He'd still have been cooked by the C4 explosion.

Also: Manhatten ultimately decided to zap Rorshach.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
No human could survive a lot of what McClane did either.
The Cable/Ship drop in DieHard3 was just a taster.
Rorschach's cited feat was a one off, McClanes were plentiful and spread over 4 movies of constant endurance and triumph.

McClane's luck, as considerable as it is, is only really an aid to his decision making outcomes.

IE: McClane could have all the luck in the world, but unless he swung off of the building in DH1 (luckily surviving, you might argue) , He'd still have been cooked by the C4 explosion.

Also: Manhatten ultimately decided to zap Rorshach.

I have not seen Die Hard 3, yet. Seriously. 😐

From what I saw of Die Hard 1 and 2, McClane doesn't come close to Rory in durability, strength, and resourcefulness. Much less brains.

However, McClane has does have some superhuman feats...they just aren't top tier.

For example, falling down the ventilation shaft, in Die Hard one, and catching the ledge. No human would have the "hand" strength to grab that ledge like that. The ones that do weigh entirely too much for it to work. Basically, you'd have to put the grip strength of one of the world's strongest men competitors on the body of a 105 pound cheerleader. Dead serials.