Mr.X vs Daredevil

Started by Dum Dum Dugan7 pages

Mr.X vs Daredevil

Not current Daredevil, but the normal one.

I think X would be the victor, what do you all think?

how can X lose?

Not sure, thats why I made the thread. personly I think at would beat pretty much an melee oriented street leveler and even most low meta (unless they have vastly superior damage soak or physical abilities)

Daredevil would beat him. The whole point about Mister X's weaknesses is the fact that he can't beat people with superhuman speed or abilities without some form of PIS involved. He can read someone's mind which we don't know if it would work on Daredevil anyway.

I mean even Iron Fist beat Mister X(post Kun Lun training) but still it shows hes not capable of beating a top tier martial artist like DD.

He reads someone's nerve impulses and should have no problem telling what attacks Matt is going to throw.

Originally posted by SasuOna
The whole point about Mister X's weaknesses is the fact that he can't beat people with superhuman speed

Mister X held the upper hand against Wolverine, Daredevil can't win here, DD is not faster and the stats acros the board are pretty even between matt and X, save X's ability which should give him the win every time.

yea, unfortunately matt cant win here.

Originally posted by Q99
He reads someone's nerve impulses and should have no problem telling what attacks Matt is going to throw.

Because Matt's powers don't allow him to do the exact same thing?
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Keeping up with Wolverine is not even a good excuse to say Daredevil loses this fight. Matt beat Wolverine without even trying in Enemy of the State.
If you want to go by Secondary canon ie the MU handbook then you might as well give up debating and showing feats since something thats over 5 years old now must hold precedence over current revelations about both characters.

Wolverine doesn't have reflexes comparable to Daredevil and Mister X loses to people when they become unpredictable. Hes hardly considered a top tier martial artist if he essentially relies on his powers rather than his skill.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Mister X held the upper hand against Wolverine, Daredevil can't win here, DD is not faster and the stats acros the board are pretty even between matt and X, save X's ability which should give him the win every time.
DD has better feats. DD can read his moves, too. DD wins.

Originally posted by SasuOna
Because Matt's powers don't allow him to do the exact same thing?
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/871/daredevil260vitalsigns0.jpg

Keeping up with Wolverine is not even a good excuse to say Daredevil loses this fight. Matt beat Wolverine without even trying in Enemy of the State.
If you want to go by Secondary canon ie the MU handbook then you might as well give up debating and showing feats since something thats over 5 years old now must hold precedence over current revelations about both characters.

Wolverine doesn't have reflexes comparable to Daredevil and Mister X loses to people when they become unpredictable. Hes hardly considered a top tier martial artist if he essentially relies on his powers rather than his skill.

Wolverine was mind controlled in EotS, missing part of his soul, only fighting DD to draw Elektra into the open... and all Matt didn't beat him, all he managed to do was momentarily break the mind control.

Wolverine's reflexes are better than DD. We've even been given a number before, .038. His combat speed reflexes (going from neutral to an extended punch) is almost 8 times faster than a human's finger time reaction time.

I also love how hitting Mister X once and then attacking Osborn as somehow become "Iron Fist beat Mister X. He hit him once, and we saw him a few seconds latter standing beside Osborn... and he was fine.

Originally posted by SasuOna
Daredevil would beat him.

Why is this? and knowing you your going to have the most absurd reasons.

Originally posted by SasuOna
point about Mister X's weaknesses is the fact that he can't beat people with superhuman speed or abilities without some form of PIS involved.

Except he has, and as usual everything you dislike you right off as PIS.

DD does not have superior speed to Mister X.

Originally posted by SasuOna
read someone's mind which we don't know if it would work on Daredevil anyway.

Why would it not work on DD? It work on individuals with far better TP resistant feats.

Originally posted by SasuOna
mean even Iron Fist beat Mister X(post Kun Lun training) but still it shows hes not capable of beating a top tier martial artist like DD.

Lol I love how you base dyour entire opinion on the single issue that reember wrote which contradict X entire characters and the entire arc.

X already showed that he trained against such tactics, it was clearly PIS. Auther did not do his homework.

But not surprising coming from you, that you would take the one extremely low/pis showing and pretend it the norm 🙄

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine was mind controlled in EotS, missing part of his soul, only fighting DD to draw Elektra into the open... and all Matt didn't beat him, all he managed to do was momentarily break the mind control.

Wolverine's reflexes are better than DD. We've even been given a number before, .038. His combat speed reflexes (going from neutral to an extended punch) is almost 8 times faster than a human's finger time reaction time.

I also love how hitting Mister X once and then attacking Osborn as somehow become "Iron Fist beat Mister X. He hit him once, and we saw him a few seconds latter standing beside Osborn... and he was fine.


cosigned.

not to mention that entire incident ignored X abilities which were shown through out the arc and was the only issue written by reember who down played all of the thunderbolts abilities. Hell even the move IF used, should never had work, it was even stated IF trained against it and even displayed the ability to combat such tactics two year prior comic time to his fight with IF. It the definition of PIS, but as usual people try and pretend thats the norm 😆

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Why is this? and knowing you your going to have the most absurd reasons.

Except he has, and as usual everything you dislike you right off as PIS.

DD does not have superior speed to Mister X.

Why would it not work on DD? It work on individuals with far better TP resistant feats.

Lol I love how you base dyour entire opinion on the single issue that reember wrote which contradict X entire characters and the entire arc.

X already showed that he trained against such tactics, it was clearly PIS. Auther did not do his homework.

But not surprising coming from you, that you would take the one extremely low/pis showing and pretend it the norm 🙄


Show me where Mister X has exhibited beyond peak human anything because besides his powers allowing him to read his opponents hes not superhuman in any of his stats.
We already saw what happened to him when Iron Fist got unpredictable and showed how his peak human stats can't compare to that of someone who can actually do superhuman feats.
Overlooking who hes beaten and how his powers work we would know he relies less of his skills as a martial artist and more on his powers which is evidenced in all his fights.

Originally posted by SasuOna
Show me where Mister X has exhibited beyond peak human anything because besides his powers allowing him to read his opponents hes not superhuman in any of his stats.

You were saying?

Originally posted by SasuOna
already saw what happened to him when Iron Fist got unpredictable and showed how his peak human stats can't compare to that of someone who can actually do superhuman feats.

No what IF did was uses drunken fist which mad ehim fight on pure instinct. However the author of that issue reember did not do his homework. That has not been a weakness of X for a long time.

Love how you uses the single issue which contradicts X entire history and pretend it the norm 🙄

Originally posted by SasuOna
who hes beaten and how his powers work we would know he relies less of his skills as a martial artist and more on his powers which is evidenced in all his fights.
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Does not matter what he relies on, DD has no way of blocking x powers, so your entire arguement is irrelevent.

DD wins this. He too can read fighters in a different way by there heart rate/muscles tensing/ radar movement. This would throw X off. IIRC IronFist messed up X by just using drunken style and Logan with just instinctive moves.

DD could do the same.

Thats not that impressive considering even Zaran a low B-lister has blocked multiple bullets.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
DD wins this. He too can read fighters in a different way. IIRC IronFist messed up X by just using drunken style and Logan with just instinctive moves.

DD could do the same.


X trained against that as shown and stated in his one shot.

IF thing was PIS, and contradicted his entire history, your better then that my friend.

Now I am assuming you simply have not read his history. The instinct tactic does not work, X trained his powers to combat such tactics, and showcased it against Deadpool.

also it was berserker wolverine, he would rape stomp DD.

No he can't and it won't work.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Thats not that impressive considering even Zaran a low B-lister has blocked multiple bullets.

Not to that digree and not by some one of black widow caliber. Please don't try and down play feats and feed the troll.

But he would still be thrown off by DD own reading ability which would make it even. And DD is the better fighter. X can't counter DD exotic pressure point fighting and stealth disappearance in broad day light.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Not to that digree and not by some one of black widow caliber. Please don't try and down play feats and feed the troll.

Not my fault its not that impressive. And BW firing the bullets doesn't change the speed of the bullet anyhow.