Originally posted by SamZED
Ugh.. there's a thing called "context" people. Daredevil was fighting a mindcontrolled Wolverine who was fighting it the whole time, not to mention he didnt beat Logan. He accidentally impaled Logan on a sword and Logan willingly stopped fighting because it helped him break the mind control. Being impaled didnt even slow him down in the past. Saying that Daredevil is faster or a better fighter than Logan is just false. His radar is the only advantage.And DD's ability to predict moves thanks to his radar and training does not cancel X's super power to actually lock on other people's moves. And the guy isnt a lowtier MA fighter either. He beat Taskmaster, Black Widow (who recently stalemated Elektra FYI since we're using the a>b>c logic here), stalemated Wolverine and Deadpool. That's something.
That said, even if DD takes it he'll spend a few months in hospital afterwards.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
But Wolverine is a bad example since he lacks the body reading and a built in radar.
Only thing Wolverine lacks in radar, but he has enhanced eye sight.
Cap it doesn't work on because of the SSS metabolisim which is a rare one indeed since no once can produce the damn thing.
Cross Bones eh it happened during a arch were DD was messed up from hell anyways. Lady Bullseye he countered IIRC.
Plus it the senses that anticipate movement its the radar that tracks subtle moves. With both work in sync X is going to have problems in "countering" DD. Plus I doubt he can counter DD exotic pressure points with just his style anyhow.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
That wrong, Wolverine has displayed body reading and preformed many of the feats your using for DD, such as wolverine senses going off about an attack prior to Spidermans.Only thing Wolverine lacks in radar, but he has enhanced eye sight.
And since Logan lacks the radar that throws waaaaaaaaaaay off your equation. Null and void.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
That wrong, Wolverine has displayed body reading and preformed many of the feats your using for DD, such as wolverine senses going off about an attack prior to Spidermans.Only thing Wolverine lacks in radar, but he has enhanced eye sight.
True. Wolverine has demonstrated a Batgirl-esq instinctive ability to read body language, from his time living with wolves in the Canadian wilderness.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
And since Logan lacks the radar that throws waaaaaaaaaaay off your equation. Null and void.
how does 360 vision more helpful against mister x then having superior physical abilities and insane damage soak?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
True. Wolverine has demonstrated a Batgirl-esq instinctive ability to read body language, from his time living with wolves in the Canadian wilderness.
Originally posted by Daredevil1Plus it the senses that anticipate movement its the radar that tracks subtle moves. With both work in sync X is going to have problems in "countering" DD. Plus I doubt he can counter DD exotic pressure points with just his style anyhow.
Also I take dual scimitars over pressure points any day.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganId say its more effective than spider sense when combined with X's killing skills. ss was also shown to guide his body in a simillar way but Pete mostly uses it defensively while X uses it to land lethal hits.
Not really, if you grasp X's powers. Any counter DD tries X not only knows it coming becuase he can read DD mind, but his body automatically blocks or dodges the attack. In melee combat it superior to spidersense.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Not really sinses he posses the other senses, and enhanced sight. Only thing DD has going for him is that his radar allows him to view the world in 360 degree's that does not make up for in inferior physical abilities.how does 360 vision more helpful against mister x then having superior physical abilities and insane damage soak?
DD radar is better then sight. Guy tracks bullets with it the way you track on to reading this very word that I'm typing. So no Logan cannot produce the same body reading countering that DD applies.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Not really, if you grasp X's powers. Any counter DD tries X not only knows it coming becuase he can read DD mind, but his body automatically blocks or dodges the attack. In melee combat it superior to spidersense.Also I take dual scimitars over pressure points any day.
Do you even know what DD has achieved with his pressure points? Do you?
Originally posted by SamZED
Id say its more effective than spider sense when combined with X's killing skills. ss was also shown to guide his body in a simillar way but Pete mostly uses it defensively while X uses it to land lethal hits.
However Spiderman senses can work on anything, and has far more potential and range in terms of working with any threat presented to spiderman, while mister x is far more limited by his abilities only working living beingings for the most part.
However you could also be right and it more to do with mister X trained skills then his actaul power being more effective.
also on a side note, I thought I should mention that Mister X also has superhuman senses.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
DD radar is better then sight. Guy tracks bullets with it the way you track on to reading this very word that I'm typing. So no Logan cannot produce the same body reading countering that DD applies.
Logan tracks bullets with his sight as well as other senses. Logan sight is not normal is superhuman.
Logan has though. You act like DD the only one who can read body language, when it far from the case.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Logan tracks bullets with his sight as well as other senses. Logan sight is not normal is superhuman.Logan has though. You act like DD the only one who can read body language, when it far from the case.
Yes but since Logan lacks the exceptional radar that DD posses he can't anticipate the way DD does. And to use him as the counter example is a big failure in that way.
But then again you did fail in showing X's speed advantage.
When has Wolverine tracked bullets with his sight or even his hearing, let alone reacted to a bullet after it was fired? Is he smelling the bullets after they were fired since thats about his only sense that is superior to DD's.
Oh thats right he hasn't that's just another hyperbole from Dugan to make it seem like Wolverine has the feats to compare with Daredevil's reactions.
In any case Daredevil can use his billy clubs to hit pressure points as well. Mister X will be able to tell where the club is going but since DD casually ricochet's his clubs his powers won't really help him much.