Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Yoda was the most powerful of all Jedi in all 6 movies... You may disregard the quotes saying so, but that doesn't mean they're not Canon. The universe in which Kas'im is portrayed is different than the movies in case you didn't know. You should look more at the context, compare Vaders greatest feat in the movies to everything else he does outside the movie universe. If Kas'im would have been in the movies, I'm sure he would've barely been able to lift an x-wing.
While I do think that we can apply the increasing levels of foggy windows into the fictional reality to the EU that doesn't directly conflict with the movies, we still, firstly, have to take into account, that as it doesn't directly conflict with the movies, it's automatically of greater merit than the EU surrounding the movies that does.
Secondly, we can consider that the events that the Bane books depict represent pivotal moments and a pivotal war within the history of the entire Galaxy and the Force itself, that saw the rise of the Sith'ari: a being who's destiny and power, as it's described and the significance it has, is second really only to the Chosen One's.
Thirdly, we can then consider that in Kas'im, what we have is someone who represented the very greatest warrior of the most warlike Order of darksiders the Galaxy has ever known, who does demonstrate the ability to compete with the same Bane, who had been rising in power and realising his potential like nobody else, and who's character was based around the cocnept of a perfect swordsman and warrior. We can also consider that the acknowledged exagerrated nature of the EU by the LFL authorities generally only really apply to Force Use, and Kas'im's definining feature is his technical ability with a lightsaber.
Essentially, what I'm saying, is that even taking into account that the EU completely seperate from the time of the movies may possible not be truly reflective of the true fictional reality, when we consider the individuals involved (Bane and Kas'im), and even look at things from the perspective of "should they be as powerful as they're depicted as" or "should they be this powerful with respect to someone like Yoda", the answer's still yes. Yoda represented a very old (and ial by extension experienced), wise, and powerful Jedi at the time of the films; the most powerful out of every single individual involved perhaps. However I see no reason to believe that he should necessarily be the most powerful Jedi ever, or even one of the most powerful ever, and that beings such as Kas'im and Bane can't outclass him in certain areas. Again, I'm not even considering what's directly shown or stated but thinking as to the root causes of whether something should be the case. And given thet we're dealing with the Sith'ari, described as the Sith's Chosen One, described as being possessive of "perfect strength, perfect power, perfect destiny," and whos very characterisation was largely based on him being abnormally powerful and vastly more powerful than everyone else, and Kas'im, the greatest warrior out of the most warlike order of darksiders that numbered in the thousands, someone who's characterisation was based off of his ability and dedication as a swordsman, and someone who represented a genuine threat to the afoermentioned Sith'ari who had already been realising power at a ridiculous rate, to me, it's not crazy that Bane would outclass Yoda with the Force and that Kas'im would alternatively do so with a lightsaber.
To me, the feats we see in the Bane books, next to what we see in the movies, isn't necessarily ridiculous or reflective of the true state of events.
But what are you suggesting anyway? That we disregard some of the stuff shown/stated in the Bane books simply because they're based within the EU?
Technique didn't help Dooku a lot against Yoda. I'm sure Dooku's technique is more advance than Yoda's. But he still can't beat Yoda.
I'm sure it is as well but certainly not to the degree that Kas'im's would be, and I'd say that kas'im;s demonstrated himself to be a more powerful individual than Dooku as wlel, especially his Force assisted lightsaber abilities.
If you really want to compare Yoda to a regular human, then I can say for sure that he has demonstrated intelligence and wisdom above that of an average human. If you question his thinking and reasoning skills then you totally misunderstand the character.
It's not so much that it may be above or below or identical to the average human's, but that it's of the same nature.
I'll use the example of Dooku again, who got owned by Anakin while Dooku is by far the most technically skilled. He still got disarmed by Anakin.
I wouldn't say thay Dooku is necessarily more skilled than Anakin actually, and again, the degree of superiority is compeltely different.