Do dreams really matter at all?

Started by siriuswriter5 pages

[yes, i have been following the conversation]

On the other hand, some people do not dream at all, and this is supposedly caused by a "mind that is at ease with itself."

So... lemme just say i t makes a lot of sense to me for the main people discussing this topic to be here discussing this topic. 😄

Originally posted by siriuswriter
[yes, i have been following the conversation]

On the other hand, some people do not dream at all, and this is supposedly caused by a "mind that is at ease with itself."

So... lemme just say i t makes a lot of sense to me for the main people discussing this topic to be here discussing this topic. 😄

People who say they don't dream, are really saying they don't remember their dreams. Not being able to dream can lead to death.

Originally posted by inimalist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project [/B]

The big issue was the mass calculation and focussing to achieve the chain reaction. Watch Coppenhagen, it was an issue to allies and the Germas who should have got the bomb first. ;-)

Originally posted by ThAnus_ofTITass
Why?
why would you even question wether or not dreams foretelling the future is true or not?

I'm trying to teach myself to lucid dream now. Haven't made much progress in that regard but now that I keep a journal I remember them a lot better.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I'm trying to teach myself to lucid dream now. Haven't made much progress in that regard but now that I keep a journal I remember them a lot better.
I've noticed that the chances for me having a lucid dream improve if I have one or two beers a not to long before sleeping. Not making this up. 🙂

Originally posted by siriuswriter
[yes, i have been following the conversation]

On the other hand, some people do not dream at all, and this is supposedly caused by a "mind that is at ease with itself."

So... lemme just say i t makes a lot of sense to me for the main people discussing this topic to be here discussing this topic. 😄

Domestic dogs must really be uneasy then. 🙄
They have so much to worry about.

I don't doubt that. I really don't lucid dream at all naturally, i'm trying to change my awareness to be more conducive to it.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't doubt that. I really don't lucid dream at all naturally, i'm trying to change my awareness to be more conducive to it.
Good luck and please share any ways that seem to work. I have my most memorable dreams sporadically but it would be cool to have them more frequently. Especially the ones that you can control. I'm 32 and I've only controlled about ten dreams from about age 16 to now. I want more! 😎

Originally posted by Sappho
why would you even question wether or not dreams foretelling the future is true or not?

are true? fortelling? etc...

What does your post even mean?

There are a variety of lucidity induction techniques (google-able), but the single, common, most effective element appears to be the "heartfeltness" of the induction. Eg, if you repeat to yourself, "Tonight I will know I'm dreaming," as your laying in bed, ideally you should be relaxed, have your head as clear as possible, and allow this command to "fill you." Practice and patience are also virtues, as is keeping a dream journal.

The Beer Technique...I suspect there'd be more success with another approach, as alcohol usually tends to interfere with dreaming. But, perhaps, a serendipitous discovery has been made here...

Also be aware that you may indeed be aware that you're dreaming without openly acknowleding it to yourself (ie, tacit lucidity).

I would have thought that alcohol would make sleep deeper and dreams harder to remember but the beer thing wasn't even on purpose at first just really noticeable. Have you noticed the same thing or have you heard it before?

Originally posted by The MISTER
I would have thought that alcohol would make sleep deeper and dreams harder to remember but the beer thing wasn't even on purpose at first just really noticeable. Have you noticed the same thing or have you heard it before?
It's news to me. Perhaps what the beer is doing is helping you to relax beforehand, or it's keeping "deeper concerns" at bay so you could afford the lucidity. But this is just a guess. If I may suggest: try another induction method (keep a log) and compare results.

Also, once you become lucid, go with the flow of the dream, as this usually helps to maintain lucidity. Ie, if you force your own agenda, you'll either lose lucidity or wake up. This doesn't necessarily mean you can't "play." It's just been my own experience that things work better if you consider yourself in a partnership with the dream, rather than as something to dominate.

Originally posted by Mindship
It's news to me. Perhaps what the beer is doing is helping you to relax beforehand, or it's keeping "deeper concerns" at bay so you could afford the lucidity. But this is just a guess. If I may suggest: try another induction method (keep a log) and compare results.

Also, once you become lucid, go with the flow of the dream, as this usually helps to maintain lucidity. Ie, if you force your own agenda, you'll either lose lucidity or wake up. This doesn't necessarily mean you can't "play." It's just been my own experience that things work better if you consider yourself in a partnership with the dream, rather than as something to dominate.

You're absolutely right about dominating the dream causing me to wake up! But you can fight waking for a little while. Flying is usually the first thing I'll try when I figure out that I'm dreaming. I've made it work about three times and total control is still not there. Other times I just got some high floaty jumps but no take off... Every time I manage to wake myself up enjoying it to much. But it is worth it though! I've forced other things too like giving myself powers or super strength but honestly that does not work as well at all. Flying's easiest to just make happen. I'm going to try the beer thing tonight for kicks. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by The MISTER
It sounds like you remember your dreams well. Can you remember dreams from years ago?

Sort of but not alot of it.Just bits and pieces of it. 🙁

Originally posted by The MISTER
You're absolutely right about dominating the dream causing me to wake up! But you can fight waking for a little while. Flying is usually the first thing I'll try when I figure out that I'm dreaming. I've made it work about three times and total control is still not there. Other times I just got some high floaty jumps but no take off... Every time I manage to wake myself up enjoying it to much. But it is worth it though! I've forced other things too like giving myself powers or super strength but honestly that does not work as well at all. Flying's easiest to just make happen. I'm going to try the beer thing tonight for kicks. 😮‍💨
Flying is definitely the easiest of the 'powers', with superstrength probably second. I also find 'phasing'/intangibility relatively easy (did this last night, as a matter of fact).

Major source of power comes from breathing: the 'breath of power' (exhalation) I find clears a 'battlefield' really fast.

General rule: try to engage the dream via your will, as opposed to your thoughts, for it's your will which pervades the dream, not your thoughts.

Do dreams really matter at all?

Nah, they don't matter unless they're wet.

Originally posted by Mindship
It's news to me. Perhaps what the beer is doing is helping you to relax beforehand, or it's keeping "deeper concerns" at bay so you could afford the lucidity. But this is just a guess. If I may suggest: try another induction method (keep a log) and compare results.

Also, once you become lucid, go with the flow of the dream, as this usually helps to maintain lucidity. Ie, if you force your own agenda, you'll either lose lucidity or wake up. This doesn't necessarily mean you can't "play." It's just been my own experience that things work better if you consider yourself in a partnership with the dream, rather than as something to dominate.


I read that you can make yourself stay asleep to some extent by spinning during your dream, if you think you might wake soon.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I read that you can make yourself stay asleep to some extent by spinning during your dream, if you think you might wake soon.
Sounds like an anchoring technique, like now and then looking at your hands.

Well evidently its supposed to be especially effective because of the way it operates on your brain or something. I can't test it because I don't lucid dream yet.