Cross Genre Match #20: Akuma vs Iron Man

Started by psycho gundam15 pages

q is a beast bro. nuff said

sean can whoop major ass if you string his moves properly, sean can also saikyo roll cross-up like dan

Defense was good after 3 taunts but priority wasn't all there.

Sean "can" win, but so can Spider-Man in MvsC2. Not to mention some supers were far more useful than others.

you've never seen Q's corner game i take it

yes, for sean you have to earn your win cause he's the "joke" character in the game like dan was, but sean's deceptively powerful in the right hands.

i've streaked with sean in collage against good ken and chun-li players before, you just have to set his moves up or you're gonna get you face kicked in

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you've never seen Q's corner game i take it

yes, for sean you have to earn your win cause he's the "joke" character in the game like dan was, but sean's deceptively powerful in the right hands.

i've streaked with sean in collage against good ken and chun-li players before, you just have to set his moves up or you're gonna get you face kicked in

I've seen all types of games. 🙂 I do find an advantage with less used characters, they are less predictable in a game where everyone chooses the usual. In all honesty I'm not a tier whore, I just like to have fun. That said it's still easier to win with the top guys.

so stop arguing with me goddammit 😛

streetfighter is serious bizniss

Yea... hey I have to be honest. I'm just waiting for TM and DNF. Do you like SF4?

tm? dnf?

street fighter 2 2010 4 is good times, although i think third strike is a better fighting game

i don't care for the focus attack/cancel, seth, and the english voice acting, but hakan (minus his appearance and mannerisms) is awesome and fun to use as well as the other new characters

Originally posted by psycho gundam
the imbalance in third strike

daigo beasts with ryu, and he's not one of the usual suspects when people talk about imbalance in the game

every character can come off as top tier depending on the skill of the player, yun has nothing on sentinel in cvs2, that mug is broken


No, it's still unbalanced. The big tournament results are a testament to that. A good player can pull off things with other characters, but he's still working harder.

Also, Daigo used Ken in the bigger 3s tournaments he won.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That said it's still easier to win with the top guys.

Agreed. This is a very important thing that many people misunderstand about top tiers vs low tiers.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Also, Daigo used Ken in the bigger 3s tournaments he won.
yeah, i don't know why i posted that

Originally posted by StyleTime
No, it's still unbalanced. The big tournament results are a testament to that. A good player can pull off things with other characters, but he's still working harder.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Agreed. This is a very important thing that many people misunderstand about top tiers vs low tiers.

well yeah, you have to work harder but that's why you figure out how to fight properly with the lower tier guys, though chun-li players have to work hard also even though she's looked at as the the top dog

RX urien or hayao hugo can eat chun-li's more times than not, iplay to the characters strengths

Making an unorthodox system helps but the point remains.

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hard work > minor tier differences

Urien is like top tier or very close. In that case yea. I'm talking bottom tier though. I fully agree talent matters more though. You just have to work harder.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
well yeah, you have to work harder but that's why you figure out how to fight properly with the lower tier guys, though chun-li players have to work hard also even though she's looked at as the the top dog

RX urien or hayao hugo can eat chun-li's more times than not, iplay to the characters strengths


With lower characters, you have to rely to on things such as: system mechanics, which the top still have access to; risky, situational options; match-up dependent strategies; and the opponent making mistakes to get your wins.

I agree. Even Chun-Li players work hard, but they get way more pay off for their efforts.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

hard work > minor tier differences

Urien is actually considered good though. Come back to me when Sean wins EVO. 😛

I'm sure Daigo could kill me with any character he wanted, but the tournament results speak for themselves. At the highest levels of play, certain characters just plain have better tools for victory.

Psycho knows it. He's just arguing. lol 😛

uhuh

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Originally posted by StyleTime
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Although, I'm surprised noone mentioned how 3rd Strike suffers from a very similar problem. It may not be as bad as MVC2 but it's still there.

3rd Strike wasn't mentioned cuz it aint anywhere near as bad. There are no impossible match ups in 3rd Strike.

True, but he kinda said that too. 😛

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
True, but he kinda said that too. 😛

Yeah, the thing was, he said "very similar", it's not that similar. Mid tiers in MVC3 will NEVER beat Mags, BH, or Psylocke. Most of 3rd Strike's cast is actually viable. Even Sean can win 2 outta 8 against Yun or Chun. And in 2nd Impact, Sean was top tier. He actually sucks now cuz he got nerfed to hell.

Originally posted by StyleTime
but the tournament results speak for themselves.

No they don't.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you've never seen Q's corner game i take it

yes, for sean you have to earn your win cause he's the "joke" character in the game like dan was, but sean's deceptively powerful in the right hands.

i've streaked with sean in collage against good ken and chun-li players before, you just have to set his moves up or you're gonna get you face kicked in

Yeah, Sean and Q lack real gimmicks. You gotta put in some real work and master the hell outta the fundamentals. You're never gonna see Sean and Q win tournies but the oppuortunity is still there.

You don't base you're whole scope around tourney results cuz if you look at a game like SSFIV, you will be decieved.

2/8 doesn't seem to good to me, although like I said MvsC2 is a whole 'nother league of broken.