RoTS Vader vs Half-Blood Prince

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, becuase he then went on to crush several droids made out of materials easily > a human throat. You keep saying that it doesn't count yet you are full of bullshit so I'm just going to direct you to two posts which you've been unable to reply to:

1. It was a post-suit feat.

2. The only reason he did it was because he was devastated about Padme's death.

Next question.

'Why doesn't it count? Anakin used it. He had no special training or anything. What, do you think its a power you can only use after having all your limbs cut off and then being set on fire, actually weakening your ability to use the Force? And you wonder why I said you don't know much about SW.'

'He crushed something 300,000 times harder than steel. But of course a simple windpipe is above him. 🙄

And he's WEAKER in that scene. And still, theres only so much power being pissed can give you. Unless Vader grew 300,000 times more powerful, he can crush a ****ing windpipe.'

Let it go, you're done.

See what I said.

You still need a wand to cast non-verbal spells doofus. I think you mean wandless magic, which Snape has never shown the ability to do. Anakin pulls his wand away and snaps it. Snape might as well surrender after that.

Isn't going to help him.

Right back at you. Non-verbal spells, rotflol. 🙄

Bullshit, we know he has them, we know he can use them, and he'd still get off an attack before Snape anyway even without them.

Fact.

Itso.

OBJECTIVITY! Its really sad how you have this pathetic obsession with proving the above.

Mine too. I only hope my own aren't as facepalm-worthy.

Where the **** is this shown in the movies? OP says 'his wand' as in singular. As in shut up. [/B][/QUOTE] OOTP, Occlumency lesson.

Originally posted by ares834

You were asking me why don't they use accio on wands; so I ask you why don't they use it on the prophecy? In the end its a stupid argument and can be easily attributed to PIS or a weak pull, and not to some hypothetical bullshit you talk about.

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Nope, doesn't count for two reasons.

1. It was a post-suit feat.

2. The only reason he did it was because he was devastated about Padme's death.

Next question.

1. A feat he performed while weaker than he was in the incarnation in the thread, so has has the power to do it. He also has the skill to perform it, as the rage, loss, pain, humiliation no doubt clouded his mind and blunted his skills, as well as recieving no training or anything that would increase his skill in any way.

2. Anakin is bloodlusted as per forum rules, meaning he is as angry as he can possibly be.

And if you say 'nuh-uh post-suit' without actually debating I will slap you.

Pwned it. Read what I said.

You claimed that he can only do it while enrage, well he is enraged as per forum rules, so there. Pwned.

Pwned it already.

No you havn't. You claim that he can only do it when enraged by Padmes death. Obviously you think that his rage makes him more powerful and you're right, thats how the darkside works. Yet the rage-boost isn't so large that it makes a person not able to snap necks one second and then be able to crush things over 300,000 times harder than necks the next. So unless you're actually going to make that ridiculous claim (in which case I may report you for trolling because no-one can seriously make it while sane), Anakin has more than enough power to crush Snapes throat with a gesture.

Pwned. Vader can only do that when he is in the mental state he was in when he learned Padme had died.

Read the above. The boost isn't that high and you know it.

Snape has 3 or 4 wands. If he is disarmed, he simply apparates back to Hogwarts and gets another one

If thats true, post proof.

And even if true, he can't use them becuase teh OP clearly only gave him access to one.

Yes, it actually is. That's like saying "Teleporting won't help Nightcrawler in a fight against Batman."

No, its like saying 'teleporting won't help Nightcrawler against Jean Gray'. Which in the movie it didn't. Although Xavier may be a better examle. He can sense Nightcrawler no matter where he jumps to, just like anakin will be able to.

Hmm? They exist, babe. They are shown several times in the movies.

I told you not to call me babe dipshit. And they exist, but without a wand you can't do them.

He never used them while casting force attacks, only in saber combat. And, as I have proven with VIDEOS, Snape is just as fast casting spells.

I seriously don't understand. Do you think that using the Force prevents you from using your reflexes? Do you think he's going to slowly raise his hand like he did with Padme, a defenceless woman? No, I think he'll use every advantage he can to win, as per forum rules. He's shown himself capable of using it to help him raise his hand, so I'm sure he's not going to ****ing fail at it.

It's an important fact, dude. More powerful>>>>>less powerful.

Impotant to you maybe. The rest of us see it as a source of amusement.

You saying apparition won't help Snape certainly is.

Not really. A wandless Snape can apparate all he wants, its not going to do much for him.

OOTP, Occlumency lesson.

YouTube video

Where?

Here it is, babe....."Prophecies can only be retrieved by those about whom they are made." Lucuis, to Harry, after Harry retrieved the prophecy in OOTP.

The prophecy had already been retrieved. Anyone can hold it now.

Originally posted by Nephthys
1. A feat he performed while weaker than he was in the incarnation in the thread, so has has the power to do it. He also has the skill to perform it, as the rage, loss, pain, humiliation no doubt clouded his mind and blunted his skills, as well as recieving no training or anything that would increase his skill in any way.

2. Anakin is bloodlusted as per forum rules, meaning he is as angry as he can possibly be.

And if you say 'nuh-uh post-suit' without actually debating I will slap you.

You claimed that he can only do it while enrage, well he is enraged as per forum rules, so there. Pwned.

Also, the OP says nothing about him being enraged.

Pwned in the butt.

No you havn't. You claim that he can only do it when enraged by Padmes death. Obviously you think that his rage makes him more powerful and you're right, thats how the darkside works. Yet the rage-boost isn't so large that it makes a person not able to snap necks one second and then be able to crush things over 300,000 times harder than necks the next. So unless you're actually going to make that ridiculous claim (in which case I may report you for trolling because no-one can seriously make it while sane), Anakin has more than enough power to crush Snapes throat with a gesture.

Screen feats may not exceed more than they were shown. pm Impediment about it if you got a problem with it. I can tell you right now he'll agree, he gave me a formal warning for trying it once.

Read the above. The boost isn't that high and you know it.

If thats true, post proof.

And even if true, he can't use them becuase teh OP clearly only gave him access to one.

No, it didn't.

No, its like saying 'teleporting won't help Nightcrawler against Jean Gray'. Which in the movie it didn't. Although Xavier may be a better examle. He can sense Nightcrawler no matter where he jumps to, just like anakin will be able to.

I told you not to call me babe dipshit. And they exist, but without a wand you can't do them.

Yes, you can haermm Watch a HP movie. Read a book.

I seriously don't understand. Do you think that using the Force prevents you from using your reflexes? Do you think he's going to slowly raise his hand like he did with Padme, a defenceless woman? No, I think he'll use every advantage he can to win, as per forum rules. He's shown himself capable of using it to help him [b]raise his hand, so I'm sure he's not going to ****ing fail at it.[/b]

Impotant to you maybe. The rest of us see it as a source of amusement.

Not really. A wandless Snape can apparate all he wants, its not going to do much for him.

YouTube video

Where?

The prophecy had already been retrieved. Anyone can hold it now.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, he had just learned that Padme had died. Here, he is not just learning this.

Also, the OP says nothing about him being enraged.

Pwned in the butt.

Its standard forum rules. Opponents are bloodlusted unless stated otherwise, so that they utilise their actual abilities instead of being bound by petty moralities and CIS.

Can't take a screen feat and multiply it times x to suit your argument.

I'm not. In fact, I'm prepared to divide the power of the feat if you wish to compensate for Padme not being dead. He'll still have enough power to crush Snapes wind-pipe but if that is your wish...

Actually it is.

Jesus. Even I didn't think you'd try and claim that. God damn.

Watch the dvd.

No, it didn't.

No, its your job to prove your claims, not mine. You watch the bloody dvd.

This is Vader before he was BBQed. Vader uses the Force and lightsaber and Half-Blood gets his wand and magic. Who emerges victorious?

'His wand'. Singular. A single wand. Not 4 wands, but one. Get it now?

Jean had Storm with her, try again.

Nice dodge. Now stop nitpicking and reply to the actual point:

'Although Xavier may be a better examle. He can sense Nightcrawler no matter where he jumps to, just like anakin will be able to.'

Yes, you can haermm Watch a HP movie. Read a book.

Prove it. And then prove Snape can do it.

Post a vid of Vader casting a force spell and having it hit his opponent in 1/2 a second.

They aren't 'spells' RJ, they are Force powers.

And:

YouTube video

0.48-49.

I see. So McClane versus Drago in a weightlifting contest, Drago being stronger means nothing?

Faulty analogy. Try again.

Yeah it will.

How?

It's not in the vid. As they enter the room, Snape unrolls a piece of cloth. Inside it are several tools. On the left, you can see at least 4 wands.

Post it.

I don't know why this is even being discussed.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Here it is, babe....."Prophecies can only be retrieved by those about whom they are made." Lucuis, to Harry, after Harry retrieved the prophecy in OOTP.

😉

Originally posted by Nephthys
Its standard forum rules. Opponents are bloodlusted unless stated otherwise, so that they utilise their actual abilities instead of being bound by petty moralities and CIS.

You're full of poopoo.

I'm not. In fact, I'm prepared to divide the power of the feat if you wish to compensate for Padme not being dead. He'll still have enough power to crush Snapes wind-pipe but if that is your wish...

Jesus. Even I didn't think you'd try and claim that. God damn.

No, its your job to prove your claims, not mine. [b]You watch the bloody dvd.[/b]

'His wand'. Singular. A single wand. Not 4 wands, but one. Get it now?

Nice dodge. Now stop nitpicking and reply to the actual point:

'Although Xavier may be a better examle. He can sense Nightcrawler no matter where he jumps to, just like anakerin will be able to.'

Prove it. And then prove Snape can do it.

They aren't 'spells' RJ, they are [b]Force powers.

And:

YouTube video

0.48-49. [/b]

Faulty analogy. Try again.

How?

Post it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Nice try, that's not ROTS footage. Fail.

Really dude? That's a power he used BEFORE ROTS, you're implying that he somehow lost the abiltity to psuh with the Force in the next movie over. Poor form again.

lol.

Originally posted by Robtard
Really dude? That's a power he used BEFORE ROTS, you're implying that he somehow lost the abiltity to psuh with the Force in the next movie over. Poor form again.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Really now. Link me. Thought not.

You're full of poopoo.

I've seen it used in multiple threads before. And even if it isn't, he simply doesn't need to be bloodlusted to be able to use the ability, as the effect is so high that even vastly diminished it'd still be capable of killing Snape.

The difference between squeezing someone's windpipe shut and crushing steel jars is pretty substantial.

I agree, particularly when its actually a substance considerably harder than steel. He'd need to be about 300,000 times weaker to be unable to crush a windpipe. Pretty substantial.

You thought wrong.

Indeed, the depths of your ignorance are truely surprising.

Uh, I did.

Then post the relevant scene. Put up or shut up.

OK. Snape apparates immediately, before Vader can attack, and attacks from afar. He apparates here and there, all over the place. Sooner or later a death spell gets him.

The apparition spam has been defeated before. Even if he does do that, Anakin was capable to tracking specific speeder through a crowded city with such precision that he could predict where it would be to perfection from hundreds of meters away despite losing sight of it. He'll have no trouble tracking Snape.

Did you just compare Vader to X?

Are you comparing Snape to Nightcrawler? awepedo

Watch the dvd's. He won't need them, you know.

Again, I don't prove your shit. [b]You do.

Nice try, that's not ROTS footage. Fail.

Correct. As others have told you it was waaaay before ROTS. He's gotten faster and more powerful since then. In his own words, 'my powers have doubled since last we met.'

You're right. And he was faster in ROTS

Its good that you've seen reason. Anakin will be able to attack first.

Mhm, that's what I thought.

You thought taht you're analogy was complete shit? Well the first step is admitting you have a problem.

If you need an answer for that, you're retarded.

Yes, I'm retarded becuase I can't see how having his only option be running away will help Snape in this thread. Honestly, its a wonder I can even type these words! duroll

Can't find the vid. Watch the dvd, the Occlumency lesson. [/B]

No. Either you do it or admit youre bullshitting.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You're right. And he was faster in ROTS ✅

And being faster as he would be in this fight doesn't help your argument any, just shows that Vader would attack first and stomp.

Originally posted by Robtard
And being faster as he would be in this fight doesn't help your argument any, just shows that Vader would attack first and stomp.

Ever seen a Jedi move this fast?

YouTube video

Nope.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah. Snape half apparates right away. Intangible. Yoda cannot touch him.

Ever seen a Jedi move this fast?

YouTube video

Nope.

YouTube video

5.08

Originally posted by Nephthys
YouTube video

5.08

Well thats just like, your opinion man.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah. Snape half apparates right away. Intangible. Yoda cannot touch him.

Ever seen a Jedi move this fast?

Nope.

"right away" ignores the advantages of Force-precog and Jedi/Sith reaction-time, powers that Jedi/Sith possess.

I realize this is all you have, ignoring, but that doesn't make you right, ya know.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well thats just like, your opinion man.

Running away counts as forfieting you know.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Running away counts as forfieting you know.