Originally posted by Galan007That isn't the point we have no idea how to debate for or against and it's speculation so what we do know they weren't that impressive in these bodies.
If a New God were to manifest itself in the mainstream DCU without first being 'scaled down' by a boom tube, then creation itself would suffer the consequences.Case in point: the multiverse nearly being destroyed by Darkseid's 'fall' in FC.
Galactus can end reality with the press of his un.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's completely different whereas Zom can enter our plane whereas the new gods cannot on their own.
And in either case you dodged the actual point of the comparison.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't the point we have no idea how to debate for or against and it's speculation so what we do know they weren't that impressive in these bodies.Galactus can end reality with the press of his un.
Originally posted by quanchi112I'm just saying that we have seen a [dying] New God fall straight from the 4th World to the mainstream DCU -- and he nearly succeeded in dragging the entire multiverse down with him as a side effect of his fall.
That isn't the point we have no idea how to debate for or against and it's speculation so what we do know they weren't that impressive in these bodies.
New Gods are more powerful then you give them credit for.
Originally posted by Galan007That's just an effect of him entering that reality not his power level. It's like legion where Ds was picked out from the timestream and it almost ended all reality it had nothing to do with Darkseid's power just offsetting the balance.
I'm just saying that we have seen a [dying] New God fall straight from the 4th World to the mainstream DCU -- and he nearly succeeded in dragging the entire multiverse down with him as a side effect of his fall.New Gods are more powerful then you give them credit for.
Originally posted by quanchi112Like the hyperbole of thanos with IG being omnipotent? 😉
This is nothing more than hyperbole used in various other issues to sell the threat as ultimate or the situations as most dire. You should be used to this sort of thing by now with all the various drama in both universes. The team wasn't that formidable and the threat was easily taken care of.
Originally posted by Galan007Although to be fair DS is one of the if not the strongest new god correct?
I'm just saying that we have seen a [dying] New God fall straight from the 4th World to the mainstream DCU -- and he nearly succeeded in dragging the entire multiverse down with him as a side effect of his fall.New Gods are more powerful then you give them credit for.
Originally posted by quanchi112Except he won't.
That isn't the point we have no idea how to debate for or against and it's speculation so what we do know they weren't that impressive in these bodies.Galactus can end reality with the press of his un.
Originally posted by Black bolt zThanos proved how powerful he was in combat and we know what his abilities are.
Like the hyperbole of thanos with IG being omnipotent? 😉
Originally posted by Black bolt zI never said he will I just said he can.
Although to be fair DS is one of the if not the strongest new god correct? Except he won't.
Originally posted by quanchi112Has to do with the 4th World being a higher plane of existence. So if a 4th Worlder isn't scaled down, lower dimensions simply cannot hold up under the pressure.
Which has nothing to do with his power just offsetting the balance or ebb and flow of things.
Originally posted by Black bolt zStart with Seven Soldiers.
God damn I really need to get final crisis.How many issues are there?
Originally posted by Galan007The don't belong there that's it. Darkseid can't just overpower reality he doesn't belong in this reality so in this story he was wrecking reality simply by being there.
Has to do with the 4th World being a higher plane of existence. So if a 4th Worlder isn't scaled down, lower dimensions simply cannot hold up under the pressure.Start with Seven Soldiers.
Originally posted by quanchi112In his 'true'/4th World form, Darkseid HAS overpowered reality, so therefore he can. But if he's scaled down via boom tube, then generally speaking, he cannot.
The don't belong there that's it. Darkseid can't just overpower reality he doesn't belong in this reality so in this story he was wrecking reality simply by being there.
Originally posted by Black bolt zYup. Gives a lot of backstory.
That a pre-lude?
Originally posted by Galan007I disagree, he slipped through which caused the problems but at this point it will be a back and forth kinda thing.
In his 'true'/4th World form, Darkseid HAS overpowered reality, so therefore he can. But if he's scaled down via boom tube, then generally speaking, he cannot.Yup. Gives a lot of backstory.