Are atheists afraid of judgement?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The mister is black. All this talk of KFC will distract him.

hysterical That's terrible.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Wait... what does this have to do with "Are atheists afraid of judgement?"?

It had several purposes. First, it addressed missionaries, which he and I have discussed. Second, I've been waiting to use the KFC conquers Africa with friend chicken since I saw it and spent 5 minutes laughing at just the title. Third, he just keeps repeating his transparent agenda over and over, I guess assuming that when he says something it must be true and people believe it because that's how it works in his religion...and I thought the chicken thing might be a fun distraction. I mean, no one is listening to him, falling for his tactics or changing their minds because he asks questions as traps, so I thought maybe everyone would just enjoy a story about the black continent being conquered by fried chicken.

Originally posted by skekUng
It had several purposes. First, it addressed missionaries, which he and I have discussed. Second, I've been waiting to use the KFC conquers Africa with friend chicken since I saw it and spent 5 minutes laughing at just the title. Third, he just keeps repeating his transparent agenda over and over, I guess assuming that when he says something it must be true and people believe it because that's how it works in his religion...and I thought the chicken thing might be a fun distraction. I mean, no one is listening to him, falling for his tactics or changing their minds because he asks questions as traps, so I thought maybe everyone would just enjoy a story about the black continent being conquered by fried chicken.

Not like he is going to pay any attention.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The mister is black. All this talk of KFC will distract him.

Originally posted by skekUng
It had several purposes. First, it addressed missionaries, which he and I have discussed. Second, I've been waiting to use the KFC conquers Africa with friend chicken since I saw it and spent 5 minutes laughing at just the title. Third, he just keeps repeating his transparent agenda over and over, I guess assuming that when he says something it must be true and people believe it because that's how it works in his religion...and I thought the chicken thing might be a fun distraction. I mean, no one is listening to him, falling for his tactics or changing their minds because he asks questions as traps, so I thought maybe everyone would just enjoy a story about the black continent being conquered by fried chicken.

Funny thing about this post is that it makes me think about how folks who are cheating on their spouses constantly accuse their spouses of cheating. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by The MISTER
I was wondering how long it would take me to get a hater. Took longer than I thought actually.

Funny thing about this post is that it makes me think about how folks who are cheating on their spouses constantly accuse their spouses of cheating. 😮‍💨

Ya, a thief always thinks that people are steeling from them, and lairs always think others are lying. So, you are saying someone who says that you are easy to understand, is easily understood? Hmmmm I don't think the two compare.

Originally posted by The MISTER
[B]I'm a christian who believes in the Bible and it's command not to judge others. I won't judge people's souls but I do wonder about their minds. I can't comprehend why people find the idea of a creator hard to believe when we have such order (apart from suffering caused by humans) in the universe from atoms to galaxies. Science can't be applied to God but faith is what I'm discussing. Believing in God means that you believe we have a greater purpose than just survival. If you believe that there is no God there is no higher purpose for anything.

Saying that there is no God suggests that there is no right and wrong except what we define as right and wrong, so it is a strong statement indeed. It suggests that we should not fear judgement.

What prevents people from believing that were created with power and responsibility on purpose? Is it fear of being judged by the Creator? If that's not it I'd like to know what other possible reasons there are.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Ya, a thief always thinks that people are steeling from them, and lairs always think others are lying. So, you are saying someone who says that you are easy to understand, is easily understood? Hmmmm I don't think the two compare.

@ 753

I'm not ignoring your post I'm just busy and I want to give a good response not a rushed one.

Originally posted by The MISTER
I keep getting accused of having an agenda. After seeing how skekung completely dismissed the possibility that missionaries do positive things I believe he's the easily seen through extremist with an agenda. He/she used well digging and malaria curing as examples of how missionaries force their beliefs on the less fortunate. Not once did she/he consider that a missionary might be sincere in their beliefs ability to promote positive changes. Yet he/she accuses me of being on a mission to change peoples perceptions. Now do you see how the two compare?

I see what you mean. Ya, she has an agenda, in a way. It's more like she has a hate that blinds her to your point.

Originally posted by The MISTER
I was wondering how long it would take me to get a hater. Took longer than I thought actually.

Funny thing about this post is that it makes me think about how folks who are cheating on their spouses constantly accuse their spouses of cheating. 😮‍💨

Hate is a strong emotion. I can't very well call you simple to dissect AND hate you.

Unless I'm cheating on you with Jesus, I don't see the relevance of your comparison.

Originally posted by The MISTER
I keep getting accused of having an agenda. After seeing how skekung completely dismissed the possibility that missionaries do positive things I believe he's the easily seen through extremist with an agenda. He/she used well digging and malaria curing as examples of how missionaries force their beliefs on the less fortunate. Not once did she/he consider that a missionary might be sincere in their beliefs ability to promote positive changes. Yet he/she accuses me of being on a mission to change peoples perceptions. Now do you see how the two compare?

I didn't say they do "NO GOOD". I said they had ulterior motives, just like you. There is this inherent paranoia in people of your perspective. It's just like in your cheaters example. If you came on here to gain insight, then you wouldn't argue with people when they provide answers to your 'innocent' questions. But, since you do, you're obvious intention is to convince them of just how wrong they are...or yourself how right you are. It's the exact same thing I've seen all over the internet, in person and on television. People with obtrusive religious beliefs have an insecurity about others having a different opinion. So,it's easy for you to tell me you don't have an agenda when you argue with others to justify your position. But, then we're getting back into the liars always lie, cheaters always cheat scenario. Again, you folks aren't hard to figure out. It's maddening to people the first few times they encounter people like you, so I understand why my lack of emotion might be confusing you. So, while you're furthering your agenda, questioning my gender, supposing I'll blow up, lose my cool, prove to you that you can piss me off because somewhere inside I really do agree with you, I get to calmly shake my head because you make it easier and easier to laugh you off. I'll keep providing you with an calm and rational observation of your behavior, and in return you can miss the point and try your baiting tactics. It'll be fun.

Originally posted by skekUng
I didn't say they do "NO GOOD". I said they had ulterior motives, just like you. There is this inherent paranoia in people of your perspective. It's just like in your cheaters example. If you came on here to gain insight, then you wouldn't argue with people when they provide answers to your 'innocent' questions. But, since you do, you're obvious intention is to convince them of just how wrong they are...or yourself how right you are. It's the exact same thing I've seen all over the internet, in person and on television. People with obtrusive religious beliefs have an insecurity about others having a different opinion. So,it's easy for you to tell me you don't have an agenda when you argue with others to justify your position. But, then we're getting back into the liars always lie, cheaters always cheat scenario. Again, you folks aren't hard to figure out. It's maddening to people the first few times they encounter people like you, so I understand why my lack of emotion might be confusing you. So, while you're furthering your agenda, questioning my gender, supposing I'll blow up, lose my cool, prove to you that you can piss me off because somewhere inside I really do agree with you, I get to calmly shake my head because you make it easier and easier to laugh you off. I'll keep providing you with an calm and rational observation of your behavior, and in return you can miss the point and try your baiting tactics. It'll be fun.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota

Most people do. That's why most atheists are intimidated of other people's judgement.

The easy answer why I've become an atheist:
All questions as to 'how' and 'when' can be answered merely with science. Even if god had created the universe, he must have forgotten to touch it from the very second it came to exist. Because we have found out nearly everything we need to know on how it evolved and also are able to calculate how it will evolve further.
The question 'why' does not find an answer, everyone has to answer it for him/herself. And if you want to think so, believe in god. Just don't try to make other people do 🙂

Originally posted by eezy45
... Just don't try to make other people do 🙂

Why? What does it matter to you if another person teaches someone else about god? I can understand not wanting anyone to try an convince you, but why stop other people from believing in a god? I mean, as long as the exchange of information is equitable, why would you have a problem?

b/c ppl abuse others lack of education to further their agenda and beliefs.

not only distorting their own religion but the culture of others.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5151512921334112942#

Originally posted by King Castle
b/c ppl abuse others lack of education to further their agenda and beliefs.

not only distorting their own religion but the culture of others...

That is not just related to religion, but examples can be found in any endeavor that humans have strong emotions about. Politics would be an example.

Originally posted by skekUng
I didn't say they do "NO GOOD". I said they had ulterior motives, just like you. There is this inherent paranoia in people of your perspective. It's just like in your cheaters example. If you came on here to gain insight, then you wouldn't argue with people when they provide answers to your 'innocent' questions. But, since you do, you're obvious intention is to convince them of just how wrong they are...or yourself how right you are. It's the exact same thing I've seen all over the internet, in person and on television. People with obtrusive religious beliefs have an insecurity about others having a different opinion. So,it's easy for you to tell me you don't have an agenda when you argue with others to justify your position. But, then we're getting back into the liars always lie, cheaters always cheat scenario. Again, you folks aren't hard to figure out. It's maddening to people the first few times they encounter people like you, so I understand why my lack of emotion might be confusing you. So, while you're furthering your agenda, questioning my gender, supposing I'll blow up, lose my cool, prove to you that you can piss me off because somewhere inside I really do agree with you, I get to calmly shake my head because you make it easier and easier to laugh you off. I'll keep providing you with an calm and rational observation of your behavior, and in return you can miss the point and try your baiting tactics. It'll be fun.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why? What does it matter to you if another person teaches someone else about god? I can understand not wanting anyone to try an convince you, but why stop other people from believing in a god? I mean, as long as the exchange of information is equitable, why would you have a problem?

That would be nice, if there were no religious organizations that attempted to alter, influence and block the progression of other people's rights, while enojying their own freedoms to engage in the same kind of behavior. The very same question you ask of those with no religious beliefs could easily be asked of those who do entertain religious beliefs.