Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
thats not what happened, and skarr amped his strength X1 Trillion to boothedit: it was x100 trillion
I don't know what makes people think that 100 trillion tons is nothing, but that amount of force was shaken off by the Hulk. Most characters would be turned into juice if they were hit by that much force. If a normal person gets hit by a train they are turned into juice, imagine 100 trillion tons? Skaar is a beast, and he looks like he's only 12.
Originally posted by dmills
One of those great comic book mysteries lol. Thor owns Norrin, Norrin owns Banner, Banner owns Thor lol! That shyte is written into Marvel bylaws I swear.
I think it's powersets and CIS and it got balanced pretty well in a rock-paper-scissors kinda way.
Surfer uses energy attacks most of the time. Thor is probably one of the best energy absorbers out there.
Thor fights like a brute when he fights Hulk. Hulk is a better brute than Thor.
Hulk has two huge weakness: the fact that he needs Gamma radiation to amp up AND that he's a one-dimensional brute. Surfer is the best weakness exploiter in the marvel roster and is also one of the most versatile character out there and uses that versatility well vs opponents.
Let it be said tho, that Thor can (and has) beaten the Hulk as well as the Surfer only losing to Thor during a very ambiguous instance.
Originally posted by NihilistNo.
If people put Thanos up against Skaar, Skaar would die in 1 or 2 shots.
But Thanos does win this.
Purely physical thanos would lose to current hulk(not by much by any means though it would be a hard fight).
But with all powers included I think thanos takes 8.9/10.Or something like that.
Originally posted by Nihilist
If people put Thanos up against Skaar, Skaar would die in 1 or 2 shots.
Current Thanos is so above him, it's not even funny.
I'd say the Surfer would pwn Skaar pretty easily.
Mar-Vell pwnd Surfer pretty easily and Thanos pwnd Mar-Vell pretty easily.
TI Thanos is SEVERAL magnitudes more powerful than Skaar.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
No.But Thanos does win this.
Purely physical thanos would lose to current hulk(not by much by any means though it would be a hard fight).
But with all powers included I think thanos takes 8.9/10.Or something like that.
How would Thanos lose to Hulk in a physical fight?
Originally posted by NihilistNo he wouldn't.Killing current drax isn't hard.Isn't he like in the metas?I agree he could one shot any meta.
Thanos would easily kill Skaar in 1 to 2 shots, he killed the current avatar of death at the time in 1 shot whilst in a weakend state and killed Drax in 1 shot the avatar of life in a univers where life had won and there was no death.How would Thanos lose to Hulk in a physical fight?
Because Current hulk is as strong if not stronger then him and smart.
Originally posted by Nihilisti think thanos amps his strength via cosmic power
Thanos would easily kill Skaar in 1 to 2 shots, he killed the current avatar of death at the time in 1 shot whilst in a weakend state and killed Drax in 1 shot the avatar of life in a univers where life had won and there was no death.How would Thanos lose to Hulk in a physical fight?
Originally posted by Black bolt z
No he wouldn't.Killing current drax isn't hard.Isn't he like in the metas?I agree he could one shot any meta.Because Current hulk is as strong if not stronger then him and smart.
I don't believe the Hulk can generate the power Mar-Vell generated when he one-shot the Surfer and crushed his board. The same board that can deflect Thor's hammer easily.
And SMART is really something that the Hulk does NOT have over THANOS.
Originally posted by StoicWell to be accurate it wasn't 100 trillion tons. A fact that gets lost in the shuffle for whatever reason is that some of the energy was siphoned off before Skaar used it. We don't kow how much of it was siphoned off, but the point was made in the comic nonetheless.
I don't know what makes people think that 100 trillion tons is nothing, but that amount of force was shaken off by the Hulk. Most characters would be turned into juice if they were hit by that much force. If a normal person gets hit by a train they are turned into juice, imagine 100 trillion tons? Skaar is a beast, and he looks like he's only 12.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
1) I know the Surfer beat the Hulk via power drain. However, even then (when the Surfer was being portrayed far weaker than he is now), the Hulk couldn't even hurt the Surfer due to his durability. This is not my point, tho and is irrelevant to this debate.
2) I do not ever see him crushing Norrin. They'd fight and it'd be a good fight, but Norrin's versatility would destroy him (BFR,
3) Thor would take it to current Hulk as well.
4) Thor beat Norrin decisively only once (during B&T) and many ppl can argue that Thor had an amp at the time and that the Surfer was holding back.
5) If Hulk could wreck Mar-Vell that way, then he'd be above the Surfer or Thor and equal to Thanos in power. I just don't ever see that happening at all. And even then, Thanos would just BFR him in 2 seconds.
Not really, because you seem to leave out one pressing issue. The Hulk does not remain on a static level. People always tend to forget that the hulk has the power to punch through a dimensional wall. This is on the same level as Black Bolts stored up energy wave, and how it opened the fault. Would you be able to say that the Surfers durability could withstand a punch that could destroy a dimensional wall? Norrin leeches the Hulk's power is the reason why he can keep the Hulk in a manageable state when they fight... nothing more, nothing less. How well do you think that the Surfer would do against classic Juggernaut? Well War over powered him, and War was inferior to the current Hulk.
Thanos would only be able to climb so far with the Hulk in a battle, and then he would have to bfr him.
@ Nihilist, I'm not really concerned with who was at fault, I'm just not willing to insult you or be insulted for my views, it's just not that serious.
Thanos would beat Skaar, but the Hulk would beat him as well, it's the Hulk's son. What father would beat the living hell out of there son that had the personality of Banner? He's never been portrayed as an abusive sort, actually he is the polar opposite. His father was abusive, and he wanted to be anything but his father. Bringing Skaar up is bad, because it just points to Banner holding back.
Originally posted by Stoic
Not really, because you seem to leave out one pressing issue. The Hulk does not remain on a static level. People always tend to forget that the hulk has the power to punch through a dimensional wall. This is on the same level as Black Bolts stored up energy wave, and how it opened the fault. Would you be able to say that the Surfers durability could withstand a punch that could destroy a dimensional wall? Norrin leeches the Hulk's power is the reason why he can keep the Hulk in a manageable state when they fight... nothing more, nothing less. How well do you think that the Surfer would do against classic Juggernaut? Well War over powered him, and War was inferior to the current Hulk.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
1) I know the Surfer beat the Hulk via power drain. However, even then (when the Surfer was being portrayed far weaker than he is now), the Hulk couldn't even hurt the Surfer due to his durability. This is not my point, tho and is irrelevant to this debate.
Originally posted by Stoic
Thanos would only be able to climb so far with the Hulk in a battle, and then he would have to bfr him.
I can see Thanos actually swatting the Hulk down like he did Mar-Vell.
But even if what you say is true, TI Thanos would just BFR him pretty easily w/c STILL gives him the win.
Originally posted by Stoic
Would you be able to say that the Surfers durability could withstand a punch that could destroy a dimensional wall?
Surfer tanked MULTIPLE direct hits from TWO high abstracts. As well as survived (for a time) being immersed in energies that would have destroyed abstracts as well. To answer your question, YES the surfer's durability WOULD handle punches at that level. However, his versatility, flight, speed and ranged abilities wouldn't even put him in the position of NEEDING TO.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
can someone post the mar-vell thanos fight
Mar-Vell blasted Thanos, and Thanos physically restrained him with ease. The bluster went something like, I AM GREATER THAN YOU, AND YOU ARE A FLEA TO ME, as Thanos slammed Mar-Vell into the ground.
I'm not going to downplay the feat or lowball it. It was what it was.