Originally posted by Black bolt zHe would and there is far more to say he would and has the power to do so going by Thanos showings. Current Drax was low herald lvl going from his showing from Annihilation to now
[B]No he wouldn't.Killing current drax isn't hard.Isn't he like in the metas?I agree he could one shot any meta.
Because Current hulk is as strong if not stronger then him and smart.He is laegues behind Thanos in tersm of smarts, and Hulk couldnt easily manhadle guys together who are high and mid herlads and make them look like chumps like Marvell did, show me WWH or Current Hulk doin so.
Originally posted by NihilistWWH one shot hercules...
He would and there is far more to say he would and has the power to do so going by Thanos showings. Current Drax was low herald lvl going from his showing from Annihilation to nowHe is laegues behind Thanos in tersm of smarts, and Hulk couldnt easily manhadle guys together who are high and mid herlads and make them look like chumps like Marvell did, show me WWH or Current Hulk doin so.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
The Magus was in TI (and Mar-Vell one-shotted killed him, too). I'd certainly put Mar-Vell at trans-tier AT LEAST.
You so easily give out the title of Trans tier for a guy that was on the block for a couple of appearances, but will not give the hulk his props when he on several occasions has completed above trans tier power stunts. Here's a few, physically stopping a planet from exploding (who does this kind of shyt?) punching through a dimensional barrier on more than one occasion (imagine if he hit Thanos, Thor, Surfer, Wonder Woman,Darkseid, Onslaught..... etc... etc with that amount of force?) Destroying a comet twice the size of earth (who does this kind of shyt?) stopping the unstoppable, or even slowing it down to a near stop. (who does this? Not Thor.)
The Hulk is undercut and underrated, at every chance. people so soon forget his upper level feats, and also forget that he can exceed even the crazy ones on his already impressive resume. What kind of power does it take to punch through a dimensional barrier? This would not effect Thanos? If not then Thanos should have never been hurt in his entire history. Thanos was momentarily KO'd or stunned by one attack from Masterson Thor.
I have a question. Where are people getting the fact that Thanos is more powerful than he ever was? He was rendered immortal but I never saw him do anything this time around that he did not do in the past, or could not do in the past.
Originally posted by Black bolt zwrong again he never one shotted Herc.
WWH one shot hercules...
Have you actually read the story? Herc didnt want to even fight Hulk, he said so himself and took several shots from Hulk. Banner admitted that if Herc wanted to fight Hulk he had a chance of stopping him.
Originally posted by Stoic
You so easily give out the title of Trans tier for a guy that was on the block for a couple of appearances, but will not give the hulk his props when he on several occasions has completed above trans tier power stunts. Here's a few, physically stopping a planet from exploding (who does this kind of shyt?) punching throguh a dimensional barrier on more than one occasion (imagine if he hit Thanos, Thor, Surfer, Wonder Woman,Darkseid, Onslaught..... etc... etc with that amount of force?) Destroying a comet twice the size of earth (who does this kind of shyt?) stopping the unstoppable, or ever slowing it down to a near stop. (who does this? Not Thor.)The Hulk is undercut and underrated, at every chance. people so soon forget his upper level feats, and also forget that he can exceed even the crazy ones on his already impressive resume. What kind of power does it take to punch through a dimensional barrier? This would not effect Thanos? If not then Thanos should have never been hurt in his entire history. Thanos was momentarily KO'd or stunned by one attack from Masterson Thor.
I have a question. Where are people getting the fact that Thanos is more powerful than he ever was? He was rendered immortal but I never saw him do anything this time around that he did not do in the past, or could not do in the past.
The Surfer has feats that match what you just posted.
1) Keeping a planet from exploding? How about draining a star of its energy enough to cause it to go Nova (Nova did it and not the Surfer, but she did it with Surfer's guidance and she's the weaker of the 2 heralds)? Star >>>> Planet.
2) Wrecking planets? Surfer has that in spades.
3) Reality smashing feats are unquantifiable so we can't really put a measurement on that. But the Surfer has created black holes as an aftereffect of his power.
4) Manipulating abstract-killing energies trump "stopping the unstoppable" as Cyttorak is NOT an abstract and he is the source of Juggernaught's power (he slowed Jugs but not stopped him as WWH and War Hulk was amped). Also, the IIRC, the Godblast STOPPED the Juggernaught and was acutally starting to push him backwards.
Point is, everything you pointed can be done by characters in the herald category. And you really shouldn't be comparing top feats vs the Surfer, he has it in SPADES well above the Hulk's IMO.
Mar-Vell CRUSHED the Surfer with such ease, it was embarassing.
Thanos CRUSHED Mar-Vell with such ease, it was embarassing.
Bottom line, Thanos would CRUSH the Hulk with such ease, we'd all be embarrassed for him.
Originally posted by Stoic
You so easily give out the title of Trans tier for a guy that was on the block for a couple of appearances, but will not give the hulk his props when he on several occasions has completed above trans tier power stunts. Here's a few, physically stopping a planet from exploding (who does this kind of shyt?) punching through a dimensional barrier on more than one occasion (imagine if he hit Thanos, Thor, Surfer, Wonder Woman,Darkseid, Onslaught..... etc... etc with that amount of force?) Destroying a comet twice the size of earth (who does this kind of shyt?) stopping the unstoppable, or even slowing it down to a near stop. (who does this? Not Thor.)The Hulk is undercut and underrated, at every chance. people so soon forget his upper level feats, and also forget that he can exceed even the crazy ones on his already impressive resume. What kind of power does it take to punch through a dimensional barrier? This would not effect Thanos? If not then Thanos should have never been hurt in his entire history. Thanos was momentarily KO'd or stunned by one attack from Masterson Thor.
I have a question. Where are people getting the fact that Thanos is more powerful than he ever was? He was rendered immortal but I never saw him do anything this time around that he did not do in the past, or could not do in the past.
Hulk lacks the powerset to be trans
Hell people are still putting Pc validus in trans 😆
Originally posted by StoicThis is current Hulk. and what Hulk feats? punching through a dimensional barrier, any high end brick/physical power house like Kurse,Juggernaut,Thanos etc could do it whilst standing nect to the barrier like Hulk was, and the barrier isnt able to fight back unlike alot of top tiers that can take very high levels of punishment.
Apparently not as badly as they downplay the Hulk's previous feats.
Originally posted by NihilistStill waitng for a respone.
wrong again he never one shotted Herc.Have you actually read the story? Herc didnt want to even fight Hulk, he said so himself and took several shots from Hulk. Banner admitted that if Herc wanted to fight Hulk he had a chance of stopping him.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
The Surfer has feats that match what you just posted.
1) Keeping a planet from exploding? How about draining a star of its energy enough to cause it to go Nova (Nova did it and not the Surfer, but she did it with Surfer's guidance and she's the weaker of the 2 heralds)? Star >>>> Planet.
2) Wrecking planets? Surfer has that in spades.
3) Reality smashing feats are unquantifiable so we can't really put a measurement on that. But the Surfer has created black holes as an aftereffect of his power.
4) Manipulating abstract-killing energies trump "stopping the unstoppable" as Cyttorak is NOT an abstract and he is the source of Juggernaught's power (he slowed Jugs but not stopped him as WWH and War Hulk was amped). Also, the IIRC, the Godblast STOPPED the Juggernaught and was acutally starting to push him backwards.Point is, everything you pointed can be done by characters in the herald category. And you really shouldn't be comparing top feats vs the Surfer, he has it in SPADES well above the Hulk's IMO.
Mar-Vell CRUSHED the Surfer with such ease, it was embarassing.
Thanos CRUSHED Mar-Vell with such ease, it was embarassing.
Bottom line, Thanos would CRUSH the Hulk with such ease, we'd all be embarrassed for him.
This is ABC logic at it's highest degree. The Surfer used the Power Cosmic to achieve these feats, he did not do so through brute strength. When did the Surfer ever take a step and shake a continent under his own strength? Has Thor ever stopped the Juggernaut when he charged him? Didn't the Hulk threaten to destroy an abstracts dimension in the past? Nightmare? What about Pre Retcon Beyonder stating that the Hulk was an infinite power? Will you downplay that as well? The Beyonder tested the Hulks power. He was analyzed by an Abstract being.
What about the time that Thanos was momentarily KO'd by Masterson Thor? To blindly state that Thanos is one shotting the Hulk is clearly low balling the character, when we have seen him tank some pretty impressive hits.
Originally posted by Nihilist
He would and there is far more to say he would and has the power to do so going by Thanos showings. Current Drax was low herald lvl going from his showing from Annihilation to nowHe is laegues behind Thanos in tersm of smarts, and Hulk couldnt easily manhadle guys together who are high and mid herlads and make them look like chumps like Marvell did, show me WWH or Current Hulk doin so.
A weaker version of the Hulk took it to Hercules, Namor, Wonder Man, Ironman, Dr, Samson, and the rest of the Avengers with ease, so I don't see why he could not replicate these feats.