Originally posted by StoicHe's also been beaten by far less and been unable to best Thor one on one. When has Hulk ever beaten the Surfer while the Surfer fought back ?
A weaker version of the Hulk took it to Hercules, Namor, Wonder Man, Ironman, Dr, Samson, and the rest of the Avengers with ease, so I don't see why he could not replicate these feats.
Thanos wrecks any Hulk.
Originally posted by quanchi112He'd better make it quick then because Banner would eventually make it a looong night for that purple Skrull face.
Thanos would maul him in a hand to hand brawl as well.
Actually, didn't Thanos take on Thor w/power gem h2h? If so then Quan is prolly right about h2h as well. Unless current Hulk = power gem.
Originally posted by StoicSo youre trying to use not current Thanos who was giving the heroes a chance(when Masterson Thor downed him, which is pis anyway) This is current Thanos.
This is ABC logic at it's highest degree. The Surfer used the Power Cosmic to achieve these feats, he did not do so through brute strength. When did the Surfer ever take a step and shake a continent under his own strength? Has Thor ever stopped the Juggernaut when he charged him? Didn't the Hulk threaten to destroy an abstracts dimension in the past? Nightmare? What about Pre Retcon Beyonder stating that the Hulk was an infinite power? Will you downplay that as well? The Beyonder tested the Hulks power. He was analyzed by an Abstract being.What about the time that Thanos was momentarily KO'd by Masterson Thor? To blindly state that Thanos is one shotting the Hulk is clearly low balling the character, when we have seen him tank some pretty impressive hits.
Originally posted by Nihilist
So youre trying to use not current Thanos who was giving the heroes a chance(when Masterson Thor downed him, which is pis anyway) This is current Thanos.
How did you get the figures that stated that Thanos was superior to his old self? other than being immortal, I never read that he was more powerful than he was in the past. perhaps you could reveal what I failed to read.
How was it PIS? Masterson clearly KO'd Thanos.
Originally posted by Stoic
This is ABC logic at it's highest degree.
It might be ABC logic, but this kind of logic can be applied to indicate clear distinctions in actual levels of power.
Lord Mar-Vell >>> Surfer
Thanos >>> Lord Mar-Vell
Surfer = Top level high herald
You might not like it, but the logic is sound.
Originally posted by Stoic
The Surfer used the Power Cosmic to achieve these feats, he did not do so through brute strength.
What does that have to do with anything? The fact is, the Surfer achieved these feats thru sheer power. The fact that it was the Power Cosmic and not thru Gamma irradiated strength is completely irrelevant to this debate.
Originally posted by Stoic
TWhen did the Surfer ever take a step and shake a continent under his own strength? Has Thor ever stopped the Juggernaut when he charged him? Didn't the Hulk threaten to destroy an abstracts dimension in the past? Nightmare? What about Pre Retcon Beyonder stating that the Hulk was an infinite power? Will you downplay that as well? The Beyonder tested the Hulks power. He was analyzed by an Abstract being.
Sigh. Taking a step to shake a continent is pointless as the Surfer has wrecked planets. Thor not stopping the Juggernaut's charge is irrelevant as his powers go beyond just strength and that is why he is high herald (Hulk is physically stronger, yes, there is no doubt). Threatening is not doing and dimensions don't fight back (given time any high herald can destroy a dimension if they're not stopped). Someone stating it =/= to it being demonstrated on panel, otherwise Thor has lifted infinite weight before (also Beyonder's been retconned so what he said has been retconned as well). What Surfer did versus TWO high abstracts trumps everything Hulkie has done vs the now-retconned Beyonder.
Originally posted by Stoic
What about the time that Thanos was momentarily KO'd by Masterson Thor? To blindly state that Thanos is one shotting the Hulk is clearly low balling the character, when we have seen him tank some pretty impressive hits.
He wasn't temporarily KOd, he got hit in the face by the hammer when he got caught by surprise and he turned him to glass before he was able to follow up the attack. :-/
Geez, and YOU'RE accusing ppl of LOWBALLING....!
TI Thanos is NOT old Thanos. If what has been shown on-panel is true, he's well above old Thanos (due to the fact that the Surfer is now being portrayed as extremely well below him. Unlike before when the Surfer was actually just a level below Thanos).
Originally posted by StoicIt's obvious by what he did. Gamora breaking her blade on his skin, him annihilating billions on the homeworld of the universal within hours, him tossing around mar vell like nothing when we've seen his power capable of oneshotting the Magus.
How did you get the figures that stated that Thanos was superior to his old self? other than being immortal, I never read that he was more powerful than he was in the past. perhaps you could reveal what I failed to read.
Originally posted by StoicYeah I only know with certainty that his durability was amped, not sure about his power. Methinks he just wasn't showing restraint as he normally does. I could be wrong though.
How did you get the figures that stated that Thanos was superior to his old self? other than being immortal, I never read that he was more powerful than he was in the past. perhaps you could reveal what I failed to read.How was it PIS? Masterson clearly KO'd Thanos.
Originally posted by StoicA pre res Thanos easily manhandled Thor,Thing,classic Vision,Iron Man, Scarlett Witch and Beast, regular classic Thanos or current wrecks them and the team you named with complete ease.
A weaker version of the Hulk took it to Hercules, Namor, Wonder Man, Ironman, Dr, Samson, and the rest of the Avengers with ease, so I don't see why he could not replicate these feats.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210Yeah, but things have changed since then I mean both have gotten more powerful but the Surfer now seems out of his league just like was when they first met.
Heck, back when the Hulk and the Surfer faced each other for the first time, the Surfer wasn't actually fighting back.And the Hulk still lost. 😄
Originally posted by Gecko4lifFeats themselves don't determine which Hulk is the strongest.
I find it funny that current hulk is billed as the strongest yet by feats he is the weakest besides MAYBE gray hulk
Originally posted by NihilistI agree. In fact I'd wager any one of the heavies from TI could do it. Hell the Blue Marvel it lol!
A pre res Thanos easily manhandled Thor,Thing,classic Vision,Iron Man, Scarlett Witch and Beast, regular classic Thanos or current wrecks them and the team you named with complete ease.
Originally posted by StoicHe was killing people in 1 to 2 shots with ease, and it took a cosmic just to put him down whilst in a weak state and 3 top telepaths to contain him. Plus he beat a trans tier easily.
How did you get the figures that stated that Thanos was superior to his old self? other than being immortal, I never read that he was more powerful than he was in the past. perhaps you could reveal what I failed to read.How was it PIS? Masterson clearly KO'd Thanos.
😂 koed he was only down for a moment.
It was pis as a more powerful version of Thor with Things help couldnt put down a weaker version of Thanos before, and every hero was hurting Thanos even Spiderman that how bad the PIS was.