Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I understand you're trying to actually explain it to me, and it still doesn't make sense. I'd need diagrams and illustrations. And it still doesn't matter because that ain't how Wolverine is built.Why am I even arguing with you anyway? You won't even admit that Stryfe forced Wolverine to stab his own brain.
because under your own microscope that's circumstantial evidence that can't be 100% proven.
Originally posted by jinzinhave you ever considered that comic book writers are just ignorant of the existence of the sphenoid bone in general...and that it isn't only with wolverine that writers think that a bullet can go through the eye to the brain?
Again, if you oversimplify the issue to "it's happened, it's admissable"... Then we're left with this notion that dictates everything works under this same premise.Once more, does Wolverine not have a spine? Because that's been suggested multiple times by on panel evidence in comics in spite of us knowing that's not true.
^ Of course not. It would affirm a vulnerability of Wolverine's.
Originally posted by jinzin
Again, if you oversimplify the issue to "it's happened, it's admissable"... Then we're left with this notion that dictates everything works under this same premise.Once more, does Wolverine not have a spine? Because that's been suggested multiple times by on panel evidence in comics in spite of us knowing that's not true.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Way to
It happening repeatedly and it being confirmed/supported by character statements is enough.Had Sabretooth reached directly through his sternum/spine and people talking about how it would work, and us never really clearly seeing the sternum/spine and the sternum/spine being something that nobody but anxious Wolvie fans would know about (clearly not, but I'm painting a picture) then you'd have an appropriate analogy.
IT'S NOT THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES. SO YOU DON'T.
Originally posted by jinzinEpic phail. Stryfe makes Wolverine retract all but his middle claws. Stryfe makes him stab his own eyes. Next we see Wolverine, his eyes are splattered with blood and Cable confirms he has brain damage which is also demonstrated by his feral nature.
because under your own microscope that's circumstantial evidence that can't be 100% proven.
EPIC PHAIL.
Man. I am disappoint. I didn't think you'd troll take it this far.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I understand you're trying to actually explain it to me, and it still doesn't make sense. I'd need diagrams and illustrations. And it still doesn't matter because that ain't how Wolverine is built.Why am I even arguing with you anyway? You won't even admit that Stryfe forced Wolverine to stab his own brain.
Most of it is inside the skull, which can be difficult to picture if you had previously thought the brain case was hallow with a brain just floating around in it. It is visible on both sides of the skull and runs behind the maxillia and the front of the face, covering both the orbitals and nasal cavity.
I'm saying that we don't see Wolverine get stabbed in the brain, and since it is an impossibility, we can ignore it outright as WIS or come up with a explanation that would still fit.
Originally posted by Starscream M
have you ever considered that comic book writers are just ignorant of the existence of the sphenoid bone in general...and that it isn't only with wolverine that writers think that a bullet can go through the eye to the brain?
Of course, that's actually part of the argument that suggests it's nothing more than an anotomical error. Which is why I think that the lack of these bones is something that needs to be mentioned on panel or put up for display because until then, those feats can be summed up with sheer writers ignorance.
^ Sheer writer ignorance is also responsible for Wolverine healing his memories, healing an entire body from mass in marrow that violates the law of the conversation of mass or not getting his organs pulverized, hypocrite. Readers got over it.
Get over it.
Originally posted by srankmissingninK, I get it. You literally will refuse to countenance that Stryfe makes Wolverine stab himself through the eyes, Wolverine ends up with brain damage... and somehow...
I'm saying that we don't see Wolverine get stabbed in the brain, and since it is an impossibility, we can ignore it outright as WIS or come up with a explanation that would still fit.
.... Wolverine stabbing himself through the eyes wasn't the cause. Amazing deduction, Sherlock.
Originally posted by Starscream M
have you ever considered that comic book writers are just ignorant of the existence of the sphenoid bone in general...and that it isn't only with wolverine that writers think that a bullet can go through the eye to the brain?
It is visible on the side of the head and houses part of the brain and all the olfactory nerves. It can't be missing or everyone would be brain dead, unable to smell, and their skull would be precariously constructed, liable to break open at the slightest assault.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Of course not. It would affirm a vulnerability of Wolverine's. Way toavoidmiss the rebuttal. Epic phail. Stryfe makes Wolverine retract all but his middle claws. Stryfe makes him stab his own eyes. Next we see Wolverine, his eyes are splattered with blood and Cable confirms he has brain damage which is also demonstrated by his feral nature.EPIC PHAIL.
Man. I am disappoint. I didn't think you'd
trolltake it this far.
Funny that's the only one you address but you want to talk to me about avoidance. Lol silly.
Originally posted by srankmissingninyou're applying real science
It is visible on the side of the head and houses part of the brain and all the olfactory nerves. It can't be missing or everyone would be brain dead, unable to smell, and their skull would be precariously constructed, liable to break open at the slightest assault.
comic book writers aren't nec anatomy experts...they may have simplified understanding if any of how the human skull is structured
my opinion is that they simply aren't aware of the structure of the skull...ie the existence of the sphenoid bone.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
K, I get it. You literally will refuse to countenance that Stryfe makes Wovlerine stab himself through the eyes, Wolverine ends up with brain damage... and somehow....... Wolverine stabbing himself through the eyes wasn't the cause. Amazing deduction, Sherlock.
All we now is he A) he stabbed himself in the eyes, B) when he woke up he had brain damage, and C) whatever happened gave him thermal x-ray vision. Was the intent for him to have been stabbed in the brain? Maybe but it isn't stated and when the villain responsible is a high level telepath, it isn't the only or even the most likely answer.
^ What the hell are you talking abotu thermal x-ray vsion? That's Cable looking at him. Not Wolverine looking at Cable.
How is Wolverine stabbing his own brain NOT the most likely answer? Christ almighty.
Originally posted by jinzinHe has brain damage. 😐
So what? You can 100% prove that Wolverine was stabbed in the eyes, you can't 100% prove that the claws reached his brain. Not under your microscrope that you just opted to use on the Sabretooth feat.Funny that's the only one you address but you want to talk to me about avoidance. Lol silly.
😐 x5
Originally posted by Starscream M
you're applying real sciencecomic book writers aren't nec anatomy experts...they may have simplified understanding if any of how the human skull is structured
my opinion is that they simply aren't aware of the structure of the skull...ie the existence of the sphenoid bone.
That fact that you can and have seen the bone one the side of Wolverine's skull in x-rays and the dozens of times he has been lit on fire isn't science, it is visual understanding.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ What the hell are you talking abotu thermal x-ray vsion? That's Cable looking at him. Not Wolverine looking at Cable.How is Wolverine stabbing his own brain NOT the most likely answer? Christ almighty. He has brain damage. 😐
😐 x5
No that is Wolverine looking at Cable, hence the metal arm. 😕
getting way too heated here. Lets stick to the actual fight at hand
Wolverine is not Sabretooth
Sabretooths bones/cartilage/muscle are all many times denser than Reens. which would lead us to belive any holes (if they exist) would be smaller because of the density.
Then we factor in that Bucky would have to hit the money shot on a ferocious moving target who is faster by more than half, more skilled, well..a master combatant in his own right, who at NO POINT in this fight is being subdued by one opponent so the other can go for an eye/nose shot. Reason being he's many times stronger than both combined.
Bucky inst Bullseye, and i doubt even bullseye could hit sabes with an upnose shot while sabes was activley A) waiting for that nose / eye shot attempt B) moving at his fstest combat speed C) closing ground FAST, and i certainly wouldn't put Buckys chances of landing a shot like that at ANYWHERE NEAR 1/10.
So lets explore other viable options for KO, healing factor overload? No sale.
Shield bash, going by sabes blunt force trauma durability No sale.
Sheild throw incapacitation? No sale
Punches and kicks..No sale
SABRETOOTH IS NOT BUYING.
Sabretooth wins Goddamn itnow everyone just agree .
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Sheer writer ignorance is also responsible for Wolverine healing his memories, healing an entire body from mass in marrow that violates the law of the conversation of mass or not getting his organs pulverized, hypocrite. Readers got over it.
Healing over his memories is part of a mutant power that's been stated and referenced on panel.
Healing from a hunk of bones.. well you got me there, I don't have an explanation for that other than Wolverine being interconnected to supernatural forces like Geia who dictate whether or not he lives or dies. Even so, that's part of a mutant power or supernatural mumbo jumbo that's been discussed on panel.
His organs being pulverized... well we've already seen narrative describing that's what happens when he's hit by Hulk.. so I'm not sure what you're talking about there because it's another on panel referenced proof.
Logan missing bones in his skull is never once mentioned on panel.. it just happens, and it happening is the sole basis for you thinking it's okay.
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
All we now is he A) he stabbed himself in the eyes, B) when he woke up he had brain damage, and C) whatever happened gave him thermal x-ray vision. Was the intent for him to have been stabbed in the brain? Maybe but it isn't stated and when the villain responsible is a high level telepath, it isn't the only or even the most likely answer.
Ok, I get it. Now you guys are just trolling. One day, you may get over it. The same way the rest of us have gotten over Wolverine's nonsensical biology. Keep the hypocritical and laughable "it's real life science! it's relevant!"
We know it's all you have to hang your denial on.
Originally posted by Trackz
I really don't want to get into the debate, but even you have to acknowledge that without a doubt Wolverine is depicted as having objects shot or forced through his eye socket to get into his brain. You have to agree that writers for the most part believe that Wolverine is able to be shot through the eye in order to take him out. You have to admit that plenty of things Wolverine has done don't exactly make sense anatomically.
Originally posted by snowdragon
I'm sorry discussing wolverine to the end of time doesn't resolve this.Has Wolverine been shot in the head and discovered multiple injuries through multiple different openings, yes.
Ok move on.
Originally posted by Starscream M
Is wolverine missing a special bone that every normal human has? NOAre comic writers ignorant of human skull anatomy? YES
But in my opinion, that just means according to comic book writers, it is possible for a bullet to travel from the eye socket into the brain...they're not saying it's only in wolverine's case. this would be the case for ANY character.
So if Captain America gets adamantium coating, it will be possible to shoot his brain through his eyes too.
Originally posted by Juk3n
getting way too heated here. Lets stick to the actual fight at handWolverine is not Sabretooth
Sabretooths bones/cartilage/muscle are all many times denser than Reens. which would lead us to belive any holes (if they exist) would be smaller because of the density.
Then we factor in that Bucky would have to hit the money shot on a ferocious moving target who is faster by more than half, more skilled, well..a master combatant in his own right, who at NO POINT in this fight is being subdued by one opponent so the other can go for an eye/nose shot. Reason being he's many times stronger than both combined.
Bucky inst Bullseye, and i doubt even bullseye could hit sabes with an upnose shot while sabes was activley A) waiting for that nose / eye shot attempt B) moving at his fstest combat speed C) closing ground FAST, and i certainly wouldn't put Buckys chances of landing a shot like that at ANYWHERE NEAR 1/10.So lets explore other viable options for KO, healing factor overload? No sale.
Shield bash, going by sabes blunt force trauma durability No sale.
Sheild throw incapacitation? No sale
Punches and kicks..No sale
SABRETOOTH IS NOT BUYING.Sabretooth wins Goddamn itnow everyone just agree .
😂 Win of the day.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Sheer writer ignorance is also responsible for Wolverine healing his memories, healing an entire body from mass in marrow that violates the law of the conversation of mass or not getting his organs pulverized, hypocrite. Readers got over it.
Actually there is some scientific basis for the idea of shared / cellular memories. So Wolverine regening his memories isn't completely out of the question, just unexplainable with current incompletely grasp of neuroscience