Captain America and Bucky vs Sabretooth

Originally posted by SasuOna
Sabertooth has superhuman durability yet hes shown countless times not being bullet proof and getting slashed by swords and bleeding from things like that.
Conclusion his durability is not superhuman. His healing factor is the only thing saving him from getting killed.

Also No Sabertooth is not dodging a shield throw from Cap which can cut through helicopters and tanks.

Cap and Bucky take this

no his durability is most deffiently superhuman, you just seem unable to understand that a person does not need to be bullet proof to have superhuman durability. Though sabre-tooth bones are most certainly bullet proof.

yes he can and he can wistand it as well.

love your logic, but how can anyone take you serous, just look at your posts in this thread laughable at best. Espicially the statement made by you that sabre-tooth has horrible durability and that bucky would punch through his face........

everyone must have you on ignore, I think I will do the same

Creed edges it out slightly.

Originally posted by SasuOna
Sabertooth has superhuman durability yet hes shown countless times not being bullet proof and getting slashed by swords and bleeding from things like that.
Conclusion his durability is not superhuman. His healing factor is the only thing saving him from getting killed.

Also No Sabertooth is not dodging a shield throw from Cap which can cut through helicopters and tanks.

Cap and Bucky take this

Oh I see.. Now you're serious?....

cool.

Well first off, Sabretooth's proven to have bullet proof bones on at least two occassions now, and there's no counter evidence to the contrary.

Sabretooth's proven to be bomb proof, fire resistant, and nosediving blackbird exploding jet resistant....

Ms. Marvel a certified class 60 couldn't use a nerve pinch on Sabretooth because his muscles were likened to steel cables.

Rogue, of the same strength class with the same invulnerability gimmick failed to do anything but get a smile out of Creed when she launched his head into a wall and rained blows upon him.

He's tanked optic blasts point blank to center mass without being stopped or slowed down.
He was able to knock rogue out with his stopping power....

At what point you think you can accurately conclude that he DOESN'T have superhuman durability is completely beyond me..

Because he can be cut? I guess Thor, Wonderwoman and a host of others have no superhuman durability either huh?

His healing factor is faster acting than Wolverine and doesn't even have to do a FRACTION of the work that Wolverine's does BECAUSE of his superhuman durability.....

If Sabretooth can dodge Punisher's automatic gunfire and Cyclops' optic blasts, than he can dodge a shield throw... if he even has to....

So tell me....

How are Cap and Bucky stopping this?

How are they even slowing that down?

Tell me how a bullet piercing his body doesn't mean that Cap's shield wouldn't carve his body apart?

Bucky's artificial arm is capable of breaking steel Sabertooth does not have the durability to tank repeated blows like that to the head.

Originally posted by jinzin
Oh I see.. Now you're serious?....

cool.

Well first off, Sabretooth's proven to have bullet proof bones on at least two occassions now, and there's no counter evidence to the contrary.

Sabretooth's proven to be bomb proof, fire resistant, and nosediving blackbird exploding jet resistant....

Ms. Marvel a certified class 60 couldn't use a nerve pinch on Sabretooth because his muscles were likened to steel cables.

Rogue, of the same strength class with the same invulnerability gimmick failed to do anything but get a smile out of Creed when she launched his head into a wall and rained blows upon him.

He's tanked optic blasts point blank to center mass without being stopped or slowed down.
He was able to knock rogue out with his stopping power....

At what point you think you can accurately conclude that he DOESN'T have superhuman durability is completely beyond me..

Because he can be cut? I guess Thor, Wonderwoman and a host of others have no superhuman durability either huh?

His healing factor is faster acting than Wolverine and doesn't even have to do a FRACTION of the work that Wolverine's does BECAUSE of his superhuman durability.....

If Sabretooth can dodge Punisher's automatic gunfire and Cyclops' optic blasts, than he can dodge a shield throw... if he even has to....

So tell me....

How are Cap and Bucky stopping this?

How are they even slowing that down?

via the hopes and patriotic dreams of his fanbase and writer armor.. 😉

Originally posted by SasuOna
Tell me how a bullet piercing his body doesn't mean that Cap's shield wouldn't carve his body apart?

Bucky's artificial arm is capable of breaking steel Sabertooth does not have the durability to tank repeated blows like that to the head.

Are you referencing his skin/meat then? Because while Cap MAY have the ability to cut Creed with his shield, the shield isn't the most effecient cutting weapon.. 6 adamantium blades might do the trick thou-- oh wait...

As for Bucky... ugh.. dude... Really? Sabretooth tanked multiple punches by Ms. Marvel to the head before he ever had an upgrade and she admitted it took a bunch of them just to knock him down..... 😐

If he can tank blows from MS marvel and survive falling from the sky, he would be bullet proof, hes not however therefore you riding on about his superhuman ability to endure blunt force trauma has no baring in this fight.

His durability isn't that high and your use of high ends feats just shows how inconsistent they are with his character.

All your doing is making a case for his endurance

Originally posted by SasuOna
If he can tank blows from MS marvel and survive falling from the sky, he would be bullet proof

Griffin battled Wonder Man and he ain't bulletproof either. Real life logic doesn't apply to comics.

Originally posted by SasuOna
If he can tank blows from MS marvel and survive falling from the sky, he would be bullet proof, hes not however therefore you riding on about his superhuman ability to endure blunt force trauma has no baring in this fight.

His durability isn't that high and your use of high ends feats just shows how inconsistent they are with his character.

All your doing is making a case for his endurance

He has also taken hits from wendigo and numerous of attacks from the xmen combined... let's not even forget the combined attacks that he took from some mini supermen and he also withstood attacks from both spidey and punisher.

does anyone have the phalanx storyline where Everette aka synch stated that his mutant aura gave him Sabretooth added muscle mass and height?

a physical mutation.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Griffin battled Wonder Man and he ain't bulletproof either. Real life logic doesn't apply to comics.

In debates were only supposed to use feats that are quantifiable. We know that Sabertooth is just like an other peak human character not bullet proof. We know that people with superhuman strength can rip people apart in the MU. We know that a character with superhuman strength hitting someone with no superhuman durability would rip them apart.

The correct thing to say is the logic in comics is a trope. For example Ive seen characters disappear on panel and appear behind another character without them noticing. You still can't use this as a basis to say the character has superhuman speed.

Ive seen Daredevil get hit by the Hulk and he wasn't ripped apart yet we know enough to state that the Hulk is easily capable of this.

So by all this logic we know that its highly unlikely that Sabertooth would remain fallible to bullets and piercings if he truly was capable of tanking class 50 or above hits.

Originally posted by SasuOna
Sabertooth has superhuman durability yet hes shown countless times not being bullet proof and getting slashed by swords and bleeding from things like that.
Conclusion his durability is not superhuman. His healing factor is the only thing saving him from getting killed.

spider-man has been see countless times being tagged by lowly thugs, conclusion..he doesn't have super agility and pre-cog?

DUH!

you know the most famous herald being with no piercing durability, Wonder Woman. 😎

Originally posted by King Castle
you know the most famous herald being with no piercing durability, Wonder Woman. 😎

Originally posted by Omega Vision
She has piercing durability.

Right so were arguing that Cap can stun or Ko Sabretooth. Him doing so is PIS?

Originally posted by Starscream M
technically, everyone has piercing durability.

Originally posted by SasuOna
If he can tank blows from MS marvel and survive falling from the sky, he would be bullet proof,

He has, he has, he is to some variable degree.

Your credibility? Shot.

Originally posted by SasuOna
hes not however therefore you riding on about his superhuman ability to endure blunt force trauma has no baring in this fight.

His durability isn't that high and your use of high ends feats just shows how inconsistent they are with his character.

All your doing is making a case for his endurance

Yup his career has no barring on this fight... 🙄

What part of getting up in 1 panel after re-entry has ANTHING to do with endurance?

Originally posted by SasuOna
In debates were only supposed to use feats that are quantifiable. We know that Sabertooth is just like an other peak human character not bullet proof. We know that people with superhuman strength can rip people apart in the MU. We know that a character with superhuman strength hitting someone with no superhuman durability would rip them apart.

The correct thing to say is the logic in comics is a trope. For example Ive seen characters disappear on panel and appear behind another character without them noticing. You still can't use this as a basis to say the character has superhuman speed.

Ive seen Daredevil get hit by the Hulk and he wasn't ripped apart yet we know enough to state that the Hulk is easily capable of this.

So by all this logic we know that its highly unlikely that Sabertooth would remain fallible to bullets and piercings if he truly was capable of tanking class 50 or above hits.

Sabretooth isn't "peak human" or anything even remotely close... 😕

Where the hell did you get your information? A 1980's handbook or something?

Your comparisons are moot as DD surviving a Hulk punch is easily PIS where as Sabretooth having superhuman durability is just a basic character trait/representation.... 😐

Comics have different types of durability...

Where the hell did all these ignorant ass trolls come from in the last couple of weeks?

This crap is ridiculous.

By the way Cap does have the ability to KO and stun Sabretooth but all feats that indicate this are all PIS and have circumstances.