Originally posted by That ACDC Chick
thats why im lucky, i live near a Gander Mountain 131
plus, i plan on bulding a pretty extensive gun collection someday
Well, I don't live near a mountain but I am close to a large hill topped with a Greek Monument so it provides a good vantage point for the surrounding area. The only problem is it takes so damned long to get up the steps...
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mhm. But a shotgun is easy to use.
Maybe?
With almost all guns, less than a minute of instruction is all that is needed.
At most, 3 minutes is all that is required to "figure it out."
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How ya gonna holster it with a 200 round mag?Pwned in the butt.
It's much smaller than a sawed off 12-gauge shotgun. Need I say more? 🙂
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The beauty of a shotgun is it offers mass destruction at close range.10-15 feet out, shotgun. Beyond that, use a rifle.
That doesn't address my point, however.
But, I cannot disagree with what you've stated: it's just a strawman statement.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Pistols don't fire grenades, silly!!!
Oh, hi to you, revolver grenade launcher:
Originally posted by dadudemonFor realz.
Maybe?
With almost all guns, less than a minute of instruction is all that is needed.Also, how you gonna find someone to teach you?
At most, 3 minutes is all that is required to "figure it out."Depends.
It's much smaller than a sawed off 12-gauge shotgun. Need I say more? 🙂How you gonna holster it?
That doesn't address my point, however.bewbz?
But, I cannot disagree with what you've stated: it's just a strawman statement.Nope, it's more or less it's effective range.
Oh, hi to you, revolver grenade launcher:That's a grenade launcher with a pistol grip attachment, not a pistol.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Also, how you gonna find someone to teach you?
Me, personally? I won't need instruction.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Depends.
Nah. At most is all that is needed for most guns...as long as the person isn't an idiot.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How you gonna holster it?
"It's much smaller than a sawed off 12-gauge shotgun. Need I say more?"
But, I'll say more...
By putting it into a holster. A 12-gauge is much larger and you can put it in a holster, so why not a much smaller gun with a much smaller profile?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
bewbz?Nope, it's more or less it's effective range.
K. Still strawman, however.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
That's a grenade launcher with a pistol grip attachment, not a pistol.
Oh, please, kind sir, direct me to where I indicated that it was ever a pistol?
Originally posted by That ACDC Chick
i think you need to cool your jets Mikey 😬
Originally posted by mikeydude
Its stupid to tell a kid that they're wrong, especially if their head is too big.
Dont ask about the example, was the first thing I thought of.
There probably are better ones, but I cba thinking of 'em. awesome
Originally posted by Kharhmah
I concur, tbh.& actually no, it's not in the least bit stupid.
If that were the case you'd get teenagers running about thinking you cant get preggo if he pulls out, because nobody would have corrected them seeing as, of course, it's a rediculous thing to do..Dont ask about the example, was the first thing I thought of.
There probably are better ones, but I cba thinking of 'em. awesome
Children with little ears who cant hear well, hear better than the kids with normal ears.
^ my example.
I'm only assuming if the age put is correct, but if Mikey was born in 1994 that makes me older than him so him constantly referring to me as kid (even if just mental wise rather than physically) is very... well.. very stupid. A kid is someone within a certain age group, I'm not giving text book examples; I'm tired of the publicity that I receive from it personally. You might often refer to a kid also as someone younger than you. I am neither in the age group to be defined as a kid and age wise I am older than the one calling me a kid.
With this said, it's asked that all KIDS (@Mikey) should sit in the back seat with their seat-belts on while the ADULTS (@ Everyone at least age 18+) works on a plan of survival.
Originally posted by Phoenix3068
Dadudemon what is your actual PLAN of survival?
Hmmm...
The "Science" shows that being near the ocean or a large body of water is the best option. So, I would drive to John's (Rogue Jedi) place in Houston and we would prolly go to the ocean.
I'm an Eagle Scout so I know how to live in the woods, tie shit loads of knots, make bathrooms, etc.
Here's the list:
1.Food: check. I already have some food storage as well as a small stockpile of protein powders and vitamins.
2. Guns and ammunition. Fail. I own no guns and ammunition and nor will I for 2-3 years.
3. First aid kit? Check.
3. Portable tools in an easy to carry "case"? Check.
4. Camping gear? Check. On top of that, I have a 12-man tent.
5. Fishing gear? Fail. I own no poles or tackle. However, my brother-in-law is "armed-to-the-gills". lol...I laugh at my own puns. He lives about a block away from me. No need to waste money on resources.
6. Winter attire for below freezing situations? Check check check. I have tons of winter gear including a below zero sleeping bag.
7. "Fire-making" accessories? Check. Including the magnesium bar in case our lighters fail.
8. Flashlights and laterns: Check.
9. Batteries of all sizes: Check check check. Tons of batteries and rechargeable ones, too.
10. Radio that takes batteries: Check. two, in fact.
11. Cutting tools for field dressing our kills: Some. I do not have all of them, however.
12. Knowledge of how to build a boat from complete scratch: Check. Other than treating the wood with chemicals and the special paint, I could build us a 3 man canoe, completely from scratch...I just need to large vices ...or to setup a 'make shift" vice. I might be able to do that with some rope...
13. Rope of differring sizes and length: Check.
14. Spare gas. I trade out my 5 gallon gas can once a quarter.
15. Power generator: Fail. FAIL FAIL FAIL!
16. Water-proof poncho: Fail! Mine "camo" one got a hole in it a few years back, in the back, so I threw it away.
17. Speak the nearest country's language? Check and fail. I speak enough to communicate okay, but not enough to have a nice conversation. This is very important if you live near a country that speaks another language: when shit hits the fan, "borders" may be lost.
18. Physical fitness which includes endurance and strength: Check. On top of that, my wife is in better shape than I am: she just ran a 5K. 😊 She's at the gym, now, lifting weights. 🙂
19. Debilitating health problems? None.
20. Calmness under pressure and stress? Check. I work best under pressure and stress. 🙂
21. Water storage? Fail. I really need to get some water into storage.
22. Access to a boat or plane? Fail. Major major important element.
23. Weapons training: Plenty, and on different types of weapons. I'm best with rifles and scopes as I like to target shoot.
24. First aid knowledge and wound dressing? Check. I also know proper wound "etiquette" and how to clean.
25. Sturdy scissors (ones that can cut bone, as well as other things): Fail. I should get some, however.
26. Working vehicles. Check. Two, in fact. Both get 28+ miles per gallon.
27. Space heaters than run on fuel: Fail.
28. Axe: Fail. Bro-in-law has two.
29. Hack saw and spare blades: fail. Again, bro-in-law.
30. Wood Saw with spare blades: fail. Again, bro-in-law.
31. Sledge hammer: Fail. Again, bro-in-law.
32. Baseball bat: Fail. Again, bro-in-law has 3 or 4.
33. Long and sharp high quality katana: Fail.
34. Bow and arrow: Fail. Grandfather has a huge amount of Bows and arrows; he used to take me hunting as a kid. However, he lives about 120 miles away: might be a bad choice.
35. Wires both cat5 and electrical copper: check.
36. Bullet proof vest: fail. May not be needed, but it might be good to have one for encounters with desperate humans in the far future after the zombie apocalypse.
37. Knowledge of how to build a home: check. I've built homes, done the wiring, and plumbing. Volunteer work, mostly.
38. Knowledge on how to repair most cars: semi-check. Even though I've done 4 tranny replacements...I still suck at them. I can't do anything to some situations in which the computer is shot: that may require a replacement computer with the proper equipment. (newer cars suck!)
39. Sailboat knowledge (how to sail a boat): depends on the boat, but check.
40. Maps: Fail. Google maps will not work, but GPS might...but they require electricity.
41. Compass: Fail. I'm relying on my electrical one, too much, these days.
42. Hiking backpack: Fail.
44. Hiking boots: Fail.
45. Binoculars: I have two pair, but both are weak. I need a higher quality pair.
46. Tweezers: 3 pair.
47. Signal flares: fail.
48. Belts (pant belts.): Check. We have plenty. These are great for strapping various things in a quick fashion. They are also good for tourniquets.
49. rappelling equipment. Fail. But I know how to do anything we need to.
50. Farming skils: check. I've grown many different kinds of foods and pickled, canned, or prepared them. Nothing beats a tomato sandwich when the tomato comes straight from your garden, ripe and red. My pickled okra is the best I've ever had. I cannot find anyone that makes pickled okra as good as mine and I've been searching for years! I've also made preserves, jam, canned beans, and so forth.
51. Masonry knowledge (for building stuff.): Check. What kind of a man would I be if I couldn't build with bricks, eh?
52. Morse Code: Fail. I may have a sheet somewhere from my scouting days. I need to memorize that shit, again.
And that's my list.
I should brush up on my medical skills such because that's probably the most important skill set to have. Pilot's license would be good, too. Flying a chopper? even better.
Okay, so if we add Dadudemon onto the list... XD how about this if Z Day ever comes; KMC bands together. Lol anyways, I'm sticking with RJ sense he has good transportation and good location. As for equipment; I've been training with weapons sense I was old enough to walk (metaphorically speaking) and while I'm not an expert, I guarantee you that no zombie will get within 10 feet of my waking body =)
Originally posted by Phoenix3068
Okay, so if we add Dadudemon onto the list... XD how about this if Z Day ever comes; KMC bands together. Lol anyways, I'm sticking with RJ sense he has good transportation and good location. As for equipment; I've been training with weapons sense I was old enough to walk (metaphorically speaking) and while I'm not an expert, I guarantee you that no zombie will get within 10 feet of my waking body =)
lol. Awesome.
There's no way that you're a girl. You're too...cool? No girl I knows knows as much about guns as you do. And I mean all of that in a complimentary manner.
Originally posted by Phoenix3068
I'm only assuming if the age put is correct, but if Mikey was born in 1994 that makes me older than him so him constantly referring to me as kid (even if just mental wise rather than physically) is very... well.. very stupid. A kid is someone within a certain age group, I'm not giving text book examples; I'm tired of the publicity that I receive from it personally. You might often refer to a kid also as someone younger than you. I am neither in the age group to be defined as a kid and age wise I am older than the one calling me a kid.With this said, it's asked that all KIDS (@Mikey) should sit in the back seat with their seat-belts on while the ADULTS (@ Everyone at least age 18+) works on a plan of survival.
Im not even going to waste my time on a such a stupid person as to actually think that an Ak'47 will help them in a Zombie Apocalypse.
Originally posted by mikeydude
Guess what?Im not even going to waste my time on a such a stupid person as to actually think that an Ak'47 will help them in a Zombie Apocalypse.
so please, please, please, please cool it
Originally posted by That ACDC Chick
look, everyone has their own opinions and has made their own choices
i even picked the AK-47 if i could get my hands on one, just because you dont think itll be effective doesnt mean you have to continually rip on/put down people who do choose it
if their choice indeed is a bad one, then theyll find out the hard way when the Zombie Apocalypse hits
its not gonna affect you in any way unless the person holding the AK is in your party, which i dont really see happeningso please, please, please, please cool it
Originally posted by dadudemonThen you lied to me before.
Me, personally? I won't need instruction.
Nah. At most is all that is needed for most guns...as long as the person isn't an idiot.*lol's as you fumble about trying to load an M-16*
"It's much smaller than a sawed off 12-gauge shotgun. Need I say more?"How ya gonna holster it?
But, I'll say more...You can put a .......SLING......on a 12 gauge.By putting it into a holster. A 12-gauge is much larger and you can put it in a holster, so why not a much smaller gun with a much smaller profile?
K. Still strawman, however.Nah, butt rapage.
Oh, please, kind sir, direct me to where I indicated that it was ever a pistol?I'M the one who said pistol.
Also gotta keep it as real as possible (yeah, I know the thread subject makes that a lol), you'll likely get your hands on an M-16 or M-4 before an AK-47, at least in the US.
There's also the extremely high possibility that unless you already own military gear or have direct access to the military, you're likely never get access to an assault rifle, grenades, grenade launchers, C4 etc. etc. etc.
So hunting/sport rifles and shotguns and common handguns is likely what most will be working with.
Originally posted by dadudemon
There's no way that you're a girl. You're too...cool? No girl I knows knows as much about guns as you do. And I mean all of that in a complimentary manner.
Girls kick just as much ass as guys do; the problem is that too many of the younger girls coming in today fall into the helpless stereotype and end up needing a man to protect them. I say that if someone needs protection get behind me >=) I might not be strong but I’m more vicious then a German Shepard (note that the German Shepard I met several years ago was a sweet heart, but then it was also filed that it severely injured a man who came onto it’s property)
Originally posted by Robtard
Being by water is either a lifesaver or death trap. If you have means to go out and survive on the water, it works as a great escape, plus possible renewable water/food source. If you don't, then it's likely a death trap should you get cornered between a sea of zombies and a sea(or lake) of water.
That of course falling into the myth that Zombies can’t swim. I’m still waiting for it to be disproven that zombies aren’t super beings that are: Super Strong, Super Fast, Super Smart. But if that is the case: pull a titanic and float away on a door while firing into the sea of living dead that rush you.
Originally posted by mikeydude
Im not even going to waste my time on a such a stupid person as to actually think that an Ak'47 will help them in a Zombie Apocalypse.
I’ve asked you to stop multiple times so I’m just not gonna acknowledge it.
Originally posted by That ACDC Chick
i even picked the AK-47 if i could get my hands on one
They are one of the cheapest and easiest to produce guns in the market; making it actually very easy to find. The only problem is that with the AK-47 being full automatic it’s outlawed in the US. Of course: if you have means of obtaining one during a matter of apocalyptic measures such as this, then it’s a good gun to grab.
(I just deleted a paragraph worth of information to avoid more confrontation on it XD just know, Its good.)
Originally posted by Robtard
[B]Also gotta keep it as real as possible (yeah, I know the thread subject makes that a lol), you'll likely get your hands on an M-16 or M-4 before an AK-47, at least in the US.[B]
I don't have one now; I do however know where to get many types. Of course it would be illegal and I wouldn't do it UNLESS we were on the brink of Z Day. Only in such case would this happen. You have to remember, in times of Apocalypse: Anything goes. if you don't live by this rule, you'll be one of the dead.
Originally posted by Robtard
Also gotta keep it as real as possible (yeah, I know the thread subject makes that a lol), you'll likely get your hands on an M-16 or M-4 before an AK-47, at least in the US.There's also the extremely high possibility that unless you already own military gear or have direct access to the military, you're likely never get access to an assault rifle, grenades, grenade launchers, C4 etc. etc. etc.
So hunting/sport rifles and shotguns and common handguns is likely what most will be having to survive with.
I'd have access to my Dad's arsenal. Likely I'd choose his:
Winchester defender 12 gauge.
AR-15.
.45 Colt Commander.
Beretta 92F.
He's got a few hunting rifles too, suppose I'd take one for fun.