How I'd survive a zombie apocalypse .

Originally posted by dadudemon
If you're surrounded by hundreds of zombies (a far more likely scenario), which is better? A .22 with 75 rounds per "clip", or a 6 shooter?

Even better, if you're surrounded by hundreds of zombies, which is better, a 6-shooter or an automatic glock 18 with several preloaded 200-round magazines available? 🙂

I WIN!

WEEEEEE!

.22, unless it it a head shot that penetrates the skull, is fail.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
12 gauge, backed up by at least a 9mm.

.22, unless it it a head shot that penetrates the skull, is fail.

Fail.

A 200 round glock 18 is the best choice, in each scenario...if you're strong enough to shoot accurately with it.

On top of that, a 12 gauge is way too large and, close quarters, it is the worst weapon of choice: too slow, too big, too heavy.

A better choice would be a glock 18 with 30 round clips. More rapid fire power with good penetration. 3 rounds to the face/neck should be enough to ensure brain stem destruction. You can unload and reload far faster, too.

Still, a better choice is that new assault rifle I saw on future weapons. It has a small profile, fires better penetrating rounds than a glock 18's .45 rounds. (I think. The .45s are some big *ss mother ****ers. I did not realize how big they were until now.)

Originally posted by dadudemon
Fail.

A 200 round glock 18 is the best choice, in each scenario...if you're strong enough to shoot accurately with it.

On top of that, a 12 gauge is way too large and, close quarters, it is the worst weapon of choice: too slow, too big, too heavy.

A better choice would be a glock 18 with 30 round clips. More rapid fire power with good penetration. 3 rounds to the face/neck should be enough to ensure brain stem destruction. You can unload and reload far faster, too.

Still, a better choice is that new assault rifle I saw on future weapons. It has a small profile, fires better penetrating rounds than a glock 18's .45 rounds. (I think. The .45s are some big *ss mother ****ers. I did not realize how big they were until now.)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, think about it....If zombies are running amuck, and you have to hit up a local gun store for weapons, you think you're gonna find a 200 round Glock lying around?

No, it would be in my possession already.

🙂

Along with 4 spare clips.

See, this is why I'm such a good choice to have in the survival group: I R mart and hav teh resorsez

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, if you are of decent aim, you can take out 3-4 zombies with one shot. It really is the best weapon to have.

No you can't. Buck shot can certainly blow off heads and body parts, but not at 20 feet. In order to get in close range like that, you'd already be in too much danger. The general thumb of longest range for 00 buckshot is about 100 yards. From farther out, not only is it more probable to miss than hit, your pellets are also start to lose too much velocity to be lethal.

It's probably the worst portable gun choice for a close range encounter with a bunch of zombies.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How many people are decent aim with a pistol? Not alot, hence the wide spread blast of a gauge.

You're stuck in video game world.

How is "killing" a zombie with a pellet going to work very well? You need to sever the brain stem or blow the head off. That, or destroy the spinal cord about the shoulders, but that still leaves the mouth for biting.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You think an average Joe can just pick up an assault rifle and pwn with it?

Absolutely: especially this new one that has a small profile, is light weight, and has very little kick. 😉 It's probably one of the best choices for a beginner on a gun that has lots of stopping power. 🙂

fail

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, it would be in my possession already.

🙂

Along with 4 spare clips.

See, this is why I'm such a good choice to have in the survival group: I R mart and hav teh resorsez

No you can't. Buck shot can certainly blow off heads and body parts, but not at 20 feet. In order to get in close range like that, you'd already be in too much danger. The general thumb of longest range for 00 buckshot is about 100 yards. From farther out, not only is it more probable to miss than hit, your pellets are also start to lose too much velocity to be lethal.

It's probably the worst portable gun choice for a close range encounter with a bunch of zombies.

You're stuck in video game world.

You need to sever the brain stem

or blow the head off.

That, or destroy the spinal cord about the shoulders, but that still leaves the mouth for biting.

Absolutely: especially this new one that has a small profile, is light weight, and has very little kick. 😉 It's probably one of the best choices for a beginner on a gun that has lots of stopping power. 🙂

Ideally one would carry the following:

12 Gauge shotgun for CQC
.357 or .45 as primary sidearm
9mm as backup sidearm
Remington .308 sniper rifle for long shots
Aluminum baseball bat for CQC

I guarantee you that 75 to 80% of people have no idea how to load/operate an automatic pistol/rifle. For the average Joe, shotguns, revolvers and bolt action rifles are the best bet. Some schmuck with no experience trying to work a Glock? Good luck.

I would move to Canada.

The zombies would never suspect.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So you like own one? +1?

No.

But I will.

mwhahahahahaha.

Gotta get done with school and the security clearance before I buy guns...n'stuff.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Common sense and resources is all that is needed. I have common sense, and I know for a fact I have better resources.

I have over 9000 9mm bullets. I WIN!

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
This is why they make slugs.

So you'll line up, say, a deer slug to perfectly shoot through 2-3 brain stems for zombies?

That's like...not gonna happen n'stuff.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How can you say this? One shot from a gauge vaporizes a zombies head, man. It's got the best stopping power, period.

It does not. Not even close. Stopping power is "stopping."

Stopping power is not just a function of destruction. It is a measure of actually 'stopping'. Per unit time, the modded Glock 18 (with a 200 count magazine) would have much higher stopping power.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, you!!!

Correct. 😄

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And a pissant .22 can do this? Not. One blast from a 12 gauge does this.

Yup. Sure can. 😐

And, see who gets moar killz: 75 round .22 or 8 round shotgun?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And a pissant .22 can do this? Not. One blast froma 12 gauge does this.

Can, and you'll see many more kills.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
One blast from a 12 gauge does this.

But weighs more, has a much lower capacity, much slower firing rate, and is much larger.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
.22 sucks as a zombie weapon. It simply lacks the power to get the job done..

If it has a high capacity magazine, it's better than a shotgun, that's for sure.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Ideally one would carry the following:

12 Gauge shotgun for CQC
.357 or .45 as primary sidearm
9mm as backup sidearm
Remington .308 sniper rifle for long shots
Aluminum baseball bat for CQC

Too much to carry.

One should just carry 2 glock 18s, modded to automatic, with 5 200 round magazines. And then, a sniper rifle.

Better range than a shotgun, you can carry far more rounds, weight is less, and so forth.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I guarantee you that 75 to 80% of people have no idea how to load/operate an automatic pistol/rifle. For the average Joe, shotguns, revolvers and bolt action rifles are the best bet. Some schmuck with no experience trying to work a Glock? Good luck.

That's not just automatics: that's semis, bolt action, and so forth. 70-80% of people for any gun, period.

And if we were going to hang with a bunch of people using guns that have no experience using them, we are almost as likely to die from friendly fire than we are zombies.

Originally posted by dadudemon

So you'll line up, say, a deer slug to perfectly shoot through 2-3 brain stems for zombies?

That's like...not gonna happen n'stuff.

It does not. Not even close. Stopping power is "stopping."

Stopping power is not just a function of destruction. It is a measure of actually 'stopping'. Per unit time, the modded Glock 18 (with a 200 count magazine) would have much higher stopping power.

And, see who gets moar killz: 75 round .22 or 8 round shotgun?

Can, and you'll see many more kills.

But weighs more, has a much lower capacity, much slower firing rate, and is much larger.

If it has a high capacity magazine, it's better than a shotgun, that's for sure.

Too much to carry.

One should just carry 2 glock 18s, modded to automatic, with 5 200 round magazines. And then, a sniper rifle.

That's not just automatics: that's semis, bolt action, and so forth. 70-80% of people for any gun, period.

And if we were going to hang with a bunch of people using guns that have no experience using them, we are almost as likely to die from friendly fire than we are zombies.

My new choices:

These, in shoulder holsters:

Colt .45 1911, on my right hip:

M4 rifle with scope:

And strapped to my back, for close encounters:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I was talking about longer range headshots.

Isn't there much better options for long range head shots than a shotgun with slugs? (Rhetorical.)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Stopping power is stopping a target in it's tracks, period. Ceasing forward progress..

Which is why the glock 18, full automatic, 200 round magazine, has much higher stopping power: can stop more, per second, than a shot gun, by far. 🙂

Looks like this is going into "loops" again because I did not say anything different.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Depends on the shooter. Shotgun= 1 shot 1 kill to a decent markamsan.

Problem with a shotgun buckshot or birdshot cartridge is the shots may very well be lethal, but the stopping power is not there: the targets are more likely to be able to move after taking several pellets to the torso as they are too small to, say, destroy the heart. Only at close range do you get that ultra "blow your hands off" destruction.

By your logic, a compact revolver grenade launcher with 6-8 shots is a better choice. Similar weight, better killing power per shot, smaller profile: obviously, a better choice. 🙂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
One shot, the head is gone. I dated a chick like that once.

I find your jokes sexist and offensive.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yup. Pwned.

Thought so.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No you!!!!

Ha. Knew you'd have to give it up. nee nars.

Bolt actions are easier to learn than autos.

Which is why we should roll just thr two of us.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
My new choices:

These, in shoulder holsters:

Colt .45 1911, on my right hip:

M4 rifle with scope:

And strapped to my back, for close encounters:

Not bad choices but you need to replace the shotgun with a long and very high quality/sharp Katana: much much better and far faster at nulling close encounter threats than a sawed off shotgun. Or, you could go with a glock 18, fully automatic. 🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
Isn't there much better options for long range head shots than a shotgun with slugs? (Rhetorical.)

Which is why the glock 18, full automatic, 200 round magazine, has much higher stopping power: can stop more, per second, than a shot gun, by far. 🙂

Looks like this is going into "loops" again because I did not say anything different.

Problem with a shotgun buckshot or birdshot cartridge is the shots may very well be lethal, but the stopping power is not there: the targets are more likely to be able to move after taking several pellets to the torso as they are too small to, say, destroy the heart. Only at close range do you get that ultra "blow your hands off" destruction.

By your logic, a compact revolver grenade launcher with 6-8 shots is a better choice. Similar weight, better killing power per shot, smaller profile: obviously, a better choice. 🙂

I find your jokes sexist and offensive.

Thought so.

Ha. Knew you'd have to give it up. nee nars.

Bolt actions are easier to learn than autos.

Which is why we should roll just thr two of us.

Not bad choices but you need to replace the shotgun with a long and very high quality/sharp Katana: much much better and far faster at nulling close encounter threats than a sawed off shotgun. Or, you could go with a glock 18, fully automatic. 🙂

The two pistols on top are fully automatic.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Isn't there much better options for long range head shots than a shotgun with slugs? (Rhetorical.)

Which is why the glock 18, full automatic, 200 round magazine, has much higher stopping power: can stop more, per second, than a shot gun, by far. 🙂

Looks like this is going into "loops" again because I did not say anything different.

Problem with a shotgun buckshot or birdshot cartridge is the shots may very well be lethal, but the stopping power is not there: the targets are more likely to be able to move after taking several pellets to the torso as they are too small to, say, destroy the heart. Only at close range do you get that ultra "blow your hands off" destruction.

10-15 feet out, shotgun. Beyond that, use a rifle.

By your logic, a compact revolver grenade launcher with 6-8 shots is a better choice. Similar weight, better killing power per shot, smaller profile: obviously, a better choice. 🙂

I find your jokes sexist and offensive.

Thought so.

Ha. Knew you'd have to give it up. nee nars.

Bolt actions are easier to learn than autos.

Which is why we should roll just thr two of us.

Don't have any guns , obviously, but I'm sure we have a lot of blunt and bladed objects in the shed. Most dangerous probably being the medium-sized axe. That would certainly take a few, though it would depend on the number of the zombies.

Plus, if ourselves and our neighbours (if they are still human of course) had time to get to our outside sheds we could have a combined force all itching to go with our hedge trimmers.

All you people with your guns, why not go the melee route? I mean okay you might survive a bit longer but it would be a lot more fun!

I'd definitely have an aluminum baseball bat handy.

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Don't have any guns , obviously, but I'm sure we have a lot of blunt and bladed objects in the shed. Most dangerous probably being the medium-sized axe. That would certainly take a few, though it would depend on the number of the zombies.

Plus, if ourselves and our neighbours (if they are still human of course) had time to get to our outside sheds we could have a combined force all itching to go with our hedge trimmers.

All you people with your guns, why not go the melee route? I mean okay you might survive a bit longer but it would be a lot more fun!

Originally posted by That ACDC Chick
i like a healthy balance between guns and melee, that way youre prepared for anything that comes your way

True, but there's no way we're getting our hands on a gun. The only way for us would be melee, and possibly making rudimentary explosives or flammable traps. There may be fireworks available but they would be unwieldy things to use as weapons.

Anyway we have a few woods around where I live and what was a former colliery so plenty of room to use some guerilla warfare, providing the woods aren't crawling with zombies.

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
True, but there's no way we're getting our hands on a gun. The only way for us would be melee, and possibly making rudimentary explosives or flammable traps. There may be fireworks available but they would be unwieldy things to use as weapons.

Anyway we have a few woods around where I live and what was a former colliery so plenty of room to use some guerilla warfare, providing the woods aren't crawling with zombies.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
All it takes is one abandoned cop car. Open the trunk and BOOM.

😆 Speaking from experience RJ?

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
😆 Speaking from experience RJ?

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
True, but there's no way we're getting our hands on a gun. The only way for us would be melee, and possibly making rudimentary explosives or flammable traps. There may be fireworks available but they would be unwieldy things to use as weapons.

Anyway we have a few woods around where I live and what was a former colliery so plenty of room to use some guerilla warfare, providing the woods aren't crawling with zombies.