Are soldiers 'heroes'

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Originally posted by inimalist
are firefighters heroes by default?
wouldnt say that. those who actually happen to risk their lifes to save others while on the job, sure. but actual firefighting work isnt like it is in TV with them running into buildings on fire against orders to save children every monday.

some times they rescue dogs, cats and ducks from fires...

Originally posted by King Castle
some times they rescue dogs, cats and ducks from fires...
IMO that counts just the same

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I just can not agree, man. I really don't see how some red neck who joins the army because he wants to "shoot up some sand ******* and get some pussy on the side" is "heroic" for doing so.

I met a lot of those when I was in the First Gulf War. In fact, the translator that was in my unit actually responded to "dune-coon" as if it was a valid nickname or a term of endearment. It was obviously a running gag among us, since he had no idea what it really meant.

(By the way: Timothy McVeigh was in my division, but I didn't learn that til several years after the fact.)

A Hero is what you make them! Anybody can face a situation and react as they react, may make you a hero or a coward! Up to you at the point of the problem you face, thats what defines us! You either do it, or not! Wars a waste of time anyway, let the Zombies sort it out, Lol!

Originally posted by Robtard
Who knows, but women love them.

that makes them a hero in my book

Originally posted by 753
wouldnt say that. those who actually happen to risk their lifes to save others while on the job, sure. but actual firefighting work isnt like it is in TV with them running into buildings on fire against orders to save children every monday.

lol, no, obviously not

I still disagree, to me its the act of being prepared to do that, or taking on an occupation where saving lives is something that comes with the territory

once someone becomes a fireman, idk, i think it would be terrible to be like, "pfft, what, you haven't dragged an unconscious woman out of a burning building, well, you are no hero to me".

ok, so thats a bit tongue in cheek

you can respect a person for choice in profession not necessarily assume he is a hero or should be considered one.

or, you can assume they are a hero. The who thing is subjective. I can't imagine you are going to convince me that firefighters aren't heroes.

EDIT: or, in general, soldiers

Originally posted by inimalist
or, you can assume they are a hero. The who thing is subjective. I can't imagine you are going to convince me that firefighters aren't heroes.

EDIT: or, in general, soldiers


Because you have 'bought in' or as I prefer to see it 'sold out' to the patriotic propaganda of the machine.

Originally posted by Free_Speech
Because you have 'bought in' or as I prefer to see it 'sold out' to the patriotic propaganda of the machine.

oh yes, I am one with the system

a cog in the machine, my friend

tune out, turn off, join in

i dont consider firefighters heroes nor soldiers.

at times one or the other can be heroic like, Brave and whatnot..

but more often then not this is how i view them behind the curtain of illusion ppl place around them..

nothing heroic or noble about it and downright unprofessional

fair enough, I wont try to tell you how to evaluate what a hero is

it helps if you were their equal in profession if not outright their superior.

Warrior>>>Soldier.

hence, why i dont have the awe aspect and see them for what they are, kids and adults. some should never bn allowed to wear their uniform unable to uphold their code of ethics.

you and ppl who never serve can assume they are heroes but those of us who stood shoulder to shoulder and saw them fail to measure up are not heroes but disgraced their uniform

Originally posted by King Castle

nothing heroic or noble about it and downright unprofessional

Hot though!

Yea I believe that they are.After all they are giving up there life for us so yea they are heros.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
they are giving up there life for us
They don't all die.

Originally posted by King Castle
i dont consider firefighters heroes nor soldiers.

at times one or the other can be heroic like, Brave and whatnot..

but more often then not this is how i view them behind the curtain of illusion ppl place around them..

nothing heroic or noble about it and downright unprofessional

wtf? They're relieving tension, for christs sake. It's not like they're doing that in the middle of a firefight. I can not understand how the hell you would think that they're in the wrong for... enjoying themselves, when they're off-duty.

my thoughts exactly

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
wtf? They're relieving tension, for christs sake. It's not like they're doing that in the middle of a firefight. I can not understand how the hell you would think that they're in the wrong for... enjoying themselves, when they're off-duty.

A while back, I saw a photo-shopped version of that picture on some website. In it, the guys in the back are all wearing the Greek letters of some frat, and the pool is filled with Jello instead of water.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
A while back, I saw a photo-shopped version of that picture on some website. In it, the guys in the back are all wearing the Greek letters of some frat, and the pool is filled with Jello instead of water.
Or in other words: every second Friday in Baghdad.