Borbarad
Advocatus Diaboli
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Which is why a direct hit to Leia's unarmored shoulder did such little damage to her that she could easily hold and aim a gun afterwards?
You mean a glancing hit with the bolt detonating behind her, with the short exposure to a part of the beam was enough to vaporize the clothing on her arm and cause a rather nice burn?
You may want to check the Escape from Tatooine in ANH, where Han Solo blasts rather huge parts of the walls apart with shockwaves from the detonations killing armored people standing some meters away. You may want to have a look at the metal vaporizing powers of blaster bolts during the Death Star rescue scenes in ANH, in which the room is filled with the smoke of vaporized metal in the matter of seconds. You can witness the destructive abilities of handhelt weaponary at the smoldering remains of the Jawa Sandcrawler, after the thing has been attacked by Stormtroopers in ANH.
You shouldn't confuse the weaker versions of blasters with assault rifles.
A single blast from a spartan laser incinerates any damn near any vehicle in the star wars mythos, and can pierce three sets of spartan armor, which is tougher than any armor that exists in the sw mythos, least that I'm aware of.
You don't seem to be aware of too much considering the SW mythos. Durasteel (e.g. used for Vader's armor) is also used to contain the hypermatter annihiliation happening in Star Destroyers. Essentially, it can pack the heat of a miniature sun. SW blaster rifles have been said to vaporize 0.5 m³ of ferrocrete with a single shot. Ferrocrete is concrete and metal put together on a molecular level so densely, that the material can be used to architect buildings that cross the distance between the planets surface and it's orbit - as seen on Nar Shadda. Just think about the monumental stress the material has to survive and go on talking.
Also, the sniper rifle models used twenty years prior to the ones used during the Halo-Covvie war fired rounds that were only a few millimeters in size but, literally, made people explode upon contact, due to the sheer velocity of the rounds (the rounds moved at around mach 40, I'll get the real figure to you next time I get my hands on a copy of Contact: Harvest, if you desire). Considering that storm trooper armor can't even protect the wearer from the concussive force of a judo flip, or arrows apparently, it's obvious that Imperial infantry is far, far inferior to Halo's infantry, specifically the Covenant.
Jumping to conclusions much? None of the Stormtroopers hit there was actually killed, which is evident, given how they hunt the Ewoks through the forrest later, before Chewbacca saves the day by capturing one of the AT-ST's. So if you goal is to knock them out (if even that) for a short amount of time, go with anything that fires slugs at them.
The plasma weapons used by the covenant have been noted to melt through multiple plates of steel armor and literally burn through unprotected people. Several needler rounds piercing someone is enough to make their lower torso explode. Comparing the damage that the weapons inflict, even on unarmored targets, it's obvious that Covenant plasma has the edge in destructive capabilities, at least on the infantry scale.
Yes. I'm aware of that.
Are you aware of the fact that SW sniper rifles have a maximum combat range of up to 15 kilometres? HK-47 in the KotoR game (which takes place 4,000 years prior to the present SW universe) made remarks about shooting "meatbags" (aka humans) from a distance of multiple kilometers.
I know you're referring to the AT-AT's, because last time I checked two logs coming together was enough to annihilate an AT-ST. As far as AT-AT's are concerned, last time I checked Luke destroyed one with a pack of a thermal detonators. That's an easily replicable feat for the super human "Bullets move in slow motion to my perception" SPARTANS and Elites and UNSC commandos.
Last time I checked, Luke did "destroy" one of those things by taking his lightsaber, cut a hole into the armor and then toss a thermal detonator into that thing. Did I miss the grappling hooks, lightsabers and matter-antimatter annihilation weapons in the Covenants inventory? Which is, by the way, ignoring the fact that Luke landed right next to one of that things. Try to close up to an AT-AT when the entire support in form of speeder-bikes, AT-STs and stormtroopers is in front of that thing to cover it.
Assuming that the UNSC and Covenent firepower is inferior to Star Wars blasters (Which, aside from the space technology, I've seen no evidence of), the same "knock them down" tactics that the Rebels used against the AT-AT's is available to the UNSC/Covenent strike force.
The Covenant has fighters that move with mach 1.5 and that are equiped with grappling hooks and more powerful guns than the ones installed on the Snowspeeders (with firepower in the kiloton range)? Have fun providing proof for that, pal.
There is also the matter of the Covenent's own "invincible" walkers, the Scarabs, and the UNSC's plentiful supply of tactical nukes, which they used quite liberally in the canonical battle for Reach.
You do really need to check the SW universes armor and firepower. Fighters do usually unleash more energy per shot than the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima. So imagine that great fireball being compressed into a few centimeter wide beam of ionized particles. After you have done that, imagine an armor capable of shrugging that firepower of.
No name Jedi have been shown throughout the mythos to be barely a level above fodder. They've been killed by one man using only his fists despite having the Jedi having a 14 to 1 numerical superiority (Jango), have been overwhelmed by a single squad of troopers, shot in the back, surprised, etc. etc. As I pointed out earlier, a single shotgun blast would tear any Jedi apart instantly, and it's a weapon they have no defense against.
Gosh. You may want to check the history of Jango Fett and the Mandalorians. I may give you a hint: they have a 4,000 year history of killing Jedi and know their stuff. And holy shit. Jedi have been killed by their own troops turning on them? That wouldn't kill a Spartan, right? And you have "pointed out" nothing. Shotgun blast? Did you watch "Attack of the Clones"? Obi-Wan Kenobi shrugs off a rocket dilivered right to the ground before him - without a scratch. The same guy can be seen to defend himself against a flamethrower and a freaking minigun with nothing but the force. You were saying?
And this is ignoring, that even "no name" Jedi could toss any Covenant or UNSC troop or vehicle around like ragdolls using some TK.
A SPARTAN's reflexes are such that they can actually see bullets moving through the air, and armed with energy swords, shields, and class 5 strength, could definitely hold their own against any fodder Jedi. Elites are slightly weaker but they have superior shielding and number in the hundreds of millions.
Jedi can see the freaking future, which gives them their reflexes. Those, just to mention it, enable them to return fire from weapons that shoot projectiles with nigh-luminal velocity. A Spartan would do what against them? Right. Nothing. Neither would any kind of Covenant troop. They would come, see and die.
I hold my earlier sentiments; the Imperials probably take the space battle and therefore win the thread, but they get hopelessly slaughtered in a ground engagement. Better technology, and better training as well (we all know that even if look only to the novels and consider the movies PIS, stromtroopers have shit tactics and even shittier aim)
Gosh. Did you even watch a single SW movie? In TPM, you have a Tuscan Rider hitting a freaking Pod-Racer (read: vehicles near Mach 1) from several hundred meters of distance. Despite of that fact, Obi-Wan Kenobi in ANH happily proclaims that the Jawa sandcrawler couldn't have been attacked by said Sandpeople, because it was hit with too much precission. So. The Stormtroopers are quite capable of aiming and using tactics.
