Annhilators vs Morrison JLA

Started by MONSTAR29 pages

Originally posted by iceman24567
Sure he has a cap he's in Thor/Supermans weightclass to think he's any higher is crazy Prime would shit on him in a test of strength 😬
Thor needs his belt of strength or WM to get stronger... Superman needs to sun-dip to get stronger plus he needs help coupled with flight assist to move little moons.... Gladiator can stand in someones face and get a WHOLE lot stronger without an outside amp.. Supes and thors strength is set in stone.. Glads is not... He starts out strong enough to destroy and move planets by himself whereas supes needs help or has to sundip... A well known fact by on-panel showings not word of mouth.

Originally posted by carver9
What are you talking about? Gladiator was covered in the radiation weakness that takes all of his powers when he faced the hulk but I would give hulk the win over both supes and gladiator anyway due to his amping ability.

Wow... gladiator defeated thor as well and koed him. The only time thor defeated glads was when he sneaked glads ater the two saved some people from a plane crash. He then hit gladiator with the god blast (which didn't injure him).

Gladiator has defeated binary, destroyed nova, defeated the entire nova corpse, was ripping through ego, stalemated surfer, ripped through a skrull that had all the powers of the most powerful beings on the planet, while doing this he ripped through war bird along with destroying an entire fleet that was attacking the shiar empire. The list goes on. Destroyed wonderman, hell he punched wonderman through the core of the planet and he was wipping through masterson thor until he was cheap shotted.

wrong

Originally posted by shokosugi
flash solos this team via blitz
I hope your joking.

JLA win.

Still Annhilators stomp

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I hope your joking.

JLA win.

Flash would definitely be a big impact, but not to the point where he would solo. I could see the JLA winning upon a closer look.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Flash would definitely be a big impact, but not to the point where he would solo. I could see the JLA winning upon a closer look.
Exactly. Flash is always a big threat to whoever hes fighting.

But to say he could solo this team is insane is all I was saying.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... you are a trip quan.

So you do not believe nova is a top tier?

You do not think of binary as a top tier?

What about hyperion? Someone who has defeated thor; do you consider him a top tier? Gladiator snapped his neck.

He defeated thor once and thor defeated him once (with a sneak attack). Why are you using thor as a low showing anyway when you have clearly gave thor the majority against supes in a debate? I never said that gladiator is unbeatable... and if anyone could beat him, it would either be thor or supes but like I said before, in my eyes, gladiator is physically more powerful than supes.

Again, the guy defeated the entire nova corps by himself and he defeated a gang of some of the most powerful villians in the universe and he was one shotting them. Superman will have more showings because he is more popular but the small showings that gladiator has presents him as being more powerful.

Carver... please dont argue with them. Anybody with common sense knows that thor, superman and hulk have the hero must win power.. Gladiator was not going to kill hulk or thor because the story called for gladiator to lose. Just like rocky losing to that big russian at the start, then the music and then rocky wins ( BY SCRIPT ).. Gladiator is stronger, faster and a far better fighter than superman.. Thats a well known fact.. Superman has never moved a planet by himself and cannot destroy one with strength.. He needs help plus flight assist to move moons and planets..A fact.. Superman is a hero, he wins not by his powerset, but by a writers story.. Hes been around for many years and has been koed by hulk, ultraa, CM, and plenty others in comics.. Gladiator loses by plot device in a comic.. Good comic book sites dont use comic book fights because crap like spiderman beating firelord because thats the script would never happen outside of a writer controlled comic. Image comics ( a un-biased company ) did a fight between gladiator and supreme (a pre-crisis superman homage ) and the fight was even. But on KMC, the hero has to win effect is forgotten to protect their character. Quan, did masterson thor beat down thanos with thors hammer??.. yes he did.. yet you defend that. People bring up cannonball beating gladiator ( which is a lie ) but it is allowed.. carver brings up superman in his ADVERAGE showings getting koed, struggling and getting beaten or not being able to destroy a planet or move one on his own and he gets threaten. I wont call names, but some superman fans ( which donimates this site ) makes this a low rated place.

Silver Surfer
Beta Ray Bill
Gladiator
Ronan the Accuser
Quasar (Wendell)

vs

Superman
Wonder Woman (Diana)
Batman
Green Lantern (Kyle, Morrison era rookie)
Flash (Wally, Morrison/Waid era badass)
Martian Manhunter (Morrison era fire weakness)
Aquaman (Hook hand/beard attitude)
Zauriel
Plastic Man

Gladiator gets his confidence sapped and his mind raped by MM so he's out. Flash and gl take out surfer, WW and Zauriel deal with Quasar because of the magic weakness (the sword and the lasso proving quite effective against the constructs) , Bill and supes fight and Aquaman and PM annoy ronan (Arthur gets swatted like a fly) until the rest of the cavalry arrive.

I say it like it's simple, but whatever battleground they're on doesn't survive this lol. This would be an awesome comic book battle though.

jla win imo.

jla.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Silver Surfer
Beta Ray Bill
Gladiator
Ronan the Accuser
Quasar (Wendell)

vs

Superman
Wonder Woman (Diana)
Batman
Green Lantern (Kyle, Morrison era rookie)
Flash (Wally, Morrison/Waid era badass)
Martian Manhunter (Morrison era fire weakness)
Aquaman (Hook hand/beard attitude)
Zauriel
Plastic Man

Gladiator gets his confidence sapped and his mind raped by MM so he's out. Flash and gl take out surfer, WW and Zauriel deal with Quasar because of the magic weakness (the sword and the lasso proving quite effective against the constructs) , Bill and supes fight and Aquaman and PM annoy ronan (Arthur gets swatted like a fly) until the rest of the cavalry arrive.

I say it like it's simple, but whatever battleground they're on doesn't survive this lol. This would be an awesome comic book battle though.

jla win imo.

Mind sap doesn't work on glads, he is resistant to it. Rachel, one of the best tp users in marvel tried this and got blitzed.

Originally posted by carver9
Mind sap doesn't work on glads, he is resistant to it. Rachel, one of the best tp users in marvel tried this and got blitzed.
Scans? And is he resistant enough to resist MM?

Cassandra Nova certainly did it easy enough.

Originally posted by Desaad
Cassandra Nova certainly did it easy enough.
True, but shes not fighting here.. MM is.. Tell me this, how will MM know to target gladiator? You think he can track gladiator before he is roasted?.. Gladiator does have the option of dropping into hyperspace and raping the JLA.. The two threats are flash and WW... The rest goes down in seconds to surfer ( he will know who to target ) gladiator or bills hammer. WW skill and flash speed keeps them in for a little while until overwelmed.

I didn't say that MM would target gladiator.

I addressed a comment that said that Gladiator absolutely, positively would not be affected by a mental attack. From my reading, that isn't true.

The idea that the Annihilation team might win because of reaction speed is, frankly, absurd, when almost every member of the DC team has demonstrated super speed combat reflexes. Strikes me that you're reaching, there.

The idea that Surfer will 'know who to target' - even though he's never demonstrated any such ability before - but Martian Manhunter - whose vast telepathic senses MIGHT actually come into play, especially against another being whose powers are psionically derived (Gladiator) -- really says all that need to be said about the kind of selective criteria you're using here.

I'm sure, if you try hard enough, you'll fin d away to give the Annihilators all the advantages, sure. It's conceivable that, if the JLA just stands there and the Annihilators are more efficient than they have ever been, even individually, than it'll be a slaughter in their favor.

But going by normal portrayals, the JLA wins.

Going by all the CIS/PIS nonsense rules this board generally abides by, with a Flash and Green Lantern and Superman and Martian on the team? A Wonder Woman who can just start tapping into the Godwave? It'd be a slaughter, and not in the way you want it to go.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Scans? And is he resistant enough to resist MM?

Don't question me when it comes to glad... I know what I am talking about.

Originally posted by Desaad
I didn't say that MM would target gladiator.

I addressed a comment that said that Gladiator absolutely, positively would not be affected by a mental attack. From my reading, that isn't true.

The idea that the Annihilation team might win because of reaction speed is, frankly, absurd, when almost every member of the DC team has demonstrated super speed combat reflexes. Strikes me that you're reaching, there.

The idea that Surfer will 'know who to target' - even though he's never demonstrated any such ability before - but Martian Manhunter - whose vast telepathic senses MIGHT actually come into play, especially against another being whose powers are psionically derived (Gladiator) -- really says all that need to be said about the kind of selective criteria you're using here.

I'm sure, if you try hard enough, you'll fin d away to give the Annihilators all the advantages, sure. It's conceivable that, if the JLA just stands there and the Annihilators are more efficient than they have ever been, even individually, than it'll be a slaughter in their favor.

But going by normal portrayals, the JLA wins.

Going by all the CIS/PIS nonsense rules this board generally abides by, with a Flash and Green Lantern and Superman and Martian on the team? A Wonder Woman who can just start tapping into the Godwave? It'd be a slaughter, and not in the way you want it to go.

That goes both ways. No one on the JLA can fight at light speed but the flash. You are making it to fit your reason for the JLA to win. Surfer has cosmic awareness, everyone knows this. But you go off of a ( might ) for MM to help him?? Then you bring up god wave for WW?? Yet you scorn others for bring up hyperspace for gladiator????.. Seems to me that you are the one reaching for advantages. In that case... You do know that surfer and bill can destroy the entire area if they choose.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Scans? And is he resistant enough to resist MM?

Like I said, Rachel is one of the most powerful TPs in Marvel and he resisted her... Martian isnt doing anything to Glad and the only thing that the martian is going to do is piss Gladiator off which is going to lead to this happening to the opposing team.

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Here is your proof.

Would you like some more?

Originally posted by MONSTAR
That goes both ways. No one on the JLA can fight at light speed but the flash. You are making it to fit your reason for the JLA to win. Surfer has cosmic awareness, everyone knows this. But you go off of a ( might ) for MM to help him?? Then you bring up god wave for WW?? Yet you scorn others for bring up hyperspace for gladiator????.. Seems to me that you are the one reaching for advantages. In that case... You do know that surfer and bill can destroy the entire area if they choose.

Surfer, Bill, or Gladiator can destroy the entire area since they have planetary destroying level feats.

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer, Bill, or Gladiator can destroy the entire area since they have planetary destroying level feats.
Batman can kick the multiverse out of existence. 😐 So what's your point? sneer

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer, Bill, or Gladiator can destroy the entire area since they have planetary destroying level feats.
True, all three have done it on panel.... NO one on the JLA can come close to doing it.