I never know what's up with the "Gasp! What do you mean, Wonder Woman is strong?? I've never seen anything to suggest that! Certainly not the dozen or so times she's fought Superman over the years, often to a near-standstill, or her rogue's gallery full of trans opponents with the odd Skyfather, or the tons of times she's fought other major supervillains in the JLA and her own book," people. Especially when it's people who've been in the forum for awhile and certainly have heard of this.
Originally posted by quanchi112
She cut his throat after fleeing from him. Supes temp ko'd her with one punch and that shows how out of her league she was.
After leaving him knocked down in a crater... not moving... and she wasn't fleeing, she was going after Max, then Superman came at her directly and lost. There were three sub-clashes in that fight and she won two of them. Superman never had a chance to take her out for good- which he was trying to do the entire time, while she did take him down and render him helpless in a situation she could've easily followed up on.
How can you just ignore 2/3rds of the fight and not note that as anything but bias? Or expect us to not notice that you're doing that?
He temp-KOed her, not long enough to exploit, she turned it around and cut his throat.
The writer of the fight even said he's got the edge in flight but she does on the ground.
Anyway, whine whine, excuse excuse, she clearly was fighting very well against him, and she's fought him to a stalemate on many other occasions (For Tomorrow being another) where no serious injury happens.
That was absolutely no-hold-back Superman, which most opponents don't get to meet, and she turned around a tough situation into a win.
She didn't fight Marvel long and marvel has stalemated Superman in strength and ko'd him on occasion. These guys are in the same league whereas WW isn't.
Marvel's only KOed Superman with suckerpunches. WW's beaten him head on (a slim minority of the time and she's always in bad shape afterwards, and she fully admits he's stronger, but still, she's pulled it out and CM hasn't).
I am sure you are leaving out a lot of context here with these feats I am unaware of.
Yea, here's the thing: You're presented with a dozen foes and incidents and you immediately write them all off without reason.
That's sad, you've got no credibility or backing for your point. You write her off and her whole history entirely.... just because?
Wanna know the context of the Genocide thing? Geno came, fought the league, trashed John Stewart, Firestorm, and Red Tornado utterly and without question head on, then later in a one-on-one fight Diana killed her.
WW isn't in Superman's league.
Not according to Superman. Or Batman. Heck, according to Batman, Martian Manhunter isn't in her league.
Ninety nine percent favor Superman over her in a forum matchup proving she isn';t in his league.
No, that proves he's somewhat more powerful overall. Which he is, he's the strongest on Earth, and Diana'll even tell you he's more powerful. That's not the same thing as a different league. Well, any more than Captain Marvel isn't in his league (She's done better than Billy against him historically, and Superman rarely uses anything other than physical strength against Batson).
Many people in that 99%, which includes me btw, will tell you that it'll be a good fight. Because it is and has been, on, well, almost every time they've fought with rare exception, and it's a solid amount of fights including some major ones.
Those who are it's not as onesided as it tends to get when you pit WW against an elite top tier. Has done what ?
What? Sorry, that grammar's just tortured.
Anyway, she's fought a ton of elite top tiers, trans, etc. foes and regularly does well against them. Your argument relies on ignoring pretty much her entire track record because.... what? Because you say so? Because you don't want to? I don't know, you don't actually have much of a point.
Quasar won't be taking her head on in a contest of strength anyways.
No, but neither did Sinestro, and we all know how that turned out (Hint: WW won).
