Originally posted by CosmicComet
Dude. What about this?http://img57.imageshack.us/i/field.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/i/field2.jpgQuasar is the man.
Bad writing? Has he ever been shown doing something like that again? The Thing, Thor, Half-Life, and others have broken his constructs. Diana can too. Or she can just use her magic weapons to cut right through them like they aren't even there.
Originally posted by zopzopDidn't Galactus struggle before to break through his constructs iirc ?
Bad writing? Has he ever been shown doing something like that again? The Thing, Thor, Half-Life, and others have broken his constructs. Diana can too. Or she can just use her magic weapons to cut right through them like they aren't even there.
Originally posted by zopzop
Bad writing? Has he ever been shown doing something like that again? The Thing, Thor, Half-Life, and others have broken his constructs. Diana can too. Or she can just use her magic weapons to cut right through them like they aren't even there.
Didn't Diana break Quasar's shields in JLA/Avengers? Or was that someone else? Remember, it's canon in DC. 😎
Originally posted by quanchi112
Didn't Galactus struggle before to break through his constructs iirc ?
If true that's sad as hell :
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Originally posted by zopzopI honestly can't remember though but I am pretty sure he was impressive against Galactus in some manner just can't recall exactly and too lazy to put in my quasar disk and hunt for it.
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Originally posted by Prep-Man
Kurt said it was canon for DC, I believe. He's not the owner of WW, but he wrote the story.
No, I mean the owner of the Marvel characters. They determine what is canon for their characters.
In Marvel history, it never happened, so the characters you see in a crossover can be deemed nothing more than one of many alternate reality versions.
Originally posted by zopzop
Bad writing? Has he ever been shown doing something like that again? The Thing, Thor, Half-Life, and others have broken his constructs. Diana can too. Or she can just use her magic weapons to cut right through them like they aren't even there.
Really?
I mean com on. Picking low showings for Quasar to debate his constructs durability?
He has held Galactus attacks, Watchers attacks, Nova bursts, fought the surfer and even the scans already provided by CC.
All characters have low and high showings. Stating that all one need is Thing level strength to beat his constructs is low balling at best.
Even the latest showings in TI show that his constructs can withstand tremendous amounts of damadge.
Also the fact that he cannot drain/manipulate magic is irrelevant in this fight since Diana has no magic energy deposits for him to drain or deplete.
Diana wins this fight ONLY if she has full gear
This is how it would go down.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I honestly can't remember though but I am pretty sure he was impressive against Galactus in some manner just can't recall exactly and too lazy to put in my quasar disk and hunt for it.
As for "Thing broke his shields" Quasar became progressively more powerful over the years as learned to use the bands better. In later appearances he was quite capable of blocking guys of Thing's level and had learned new powers too.
But the thing I hate about DC-Marvel fights is the speed blitz advantage which comes from DC giving so many characters such ridiculous speed as compared to Marvel characters. It's annoying because they often don't use speedblitz at all against their own villains even in serious fights. Still, even with all that I'd give Quasar at least 6/10 against regular WW anyway - but they both have ways of taking each other out. Fully geared WW has an advantage though, she is even more ridiculous.
Originally posted by basiliskI doubt that was a well nourished Galactus. I am sure this happened before Thanos' series too which means Thanos' shields were much more powerufl than Quasar. Still not a bad feat for the blondie.
It was in FF, in the Invisible Cosmic Johnny the Herald Saga arc. Quasar was holding off Galactus's sustained eye blasts. It didn't really make clear for how long, but Galactus said he was "exasperated" by it and looked somewhat annoyed. A few panels and actions later they were still shown going at it with Galactus still trying to eyeblast Quasar. In fact really Galactus had more trouble with Quasar's shields than with Thanos's, which he just blasted right through leaving Thanos a simpering wreck. Finally Johnny relieves Quasar at which point Galactus stops blasting and threatens to reabsorb the Herald power that he has given Johnny.As for "Thing broke his shields" Quasar became progressively more powerful over the years as learned to use the bands better. In later appearances he was quite capable of blocking guys of Thing's level and had learned new powers too.
But the thing I hate about DC-Marvel fights is the speed blitz advantage which comes from DC giving so many characters such ridiculous speed as compared to Marvel characters. It's annoying because they often don't use speedblitz at all against their own villains even in serious fights. Still, even with all that I'd give Quasar at least 6/10 against regular WW anyway - but they both have ways of taking each other out. Fully geared WW has an advantage though, she is even more ridiculous.
Originally posted by quanchi112It was after the end of the Thanos series so maybe that means Quasar's shields were more powerful then? The rest is just your opinion. All we really saw was Quasar's shields held up better of the two and he wasn't simpering at the end of the encounter. But as is often the case Galactus was kind of lowballed in both stories anyway. We just have to accept a bit of PIS here and there.
I doubt that was a well nourished Galactus. I am sure this happened before Thanos' series too which means Thanos' shields were much more powerufl than Quasar. Still not a bad feat for the blondie.
It'd have made more sense if she had used her tiara instead of just brute force there in JLA/Avengers, if you ask me.
Quanchi
Entirely incorrect. Her avoiding being tossed into the sun and being temp ko'd back into earth's atmosphere isn't her winning the struggle it's her escaping with her life.
Yea, she escaped with her life, came back, and won, despite having injuries from the first part.
How convenient to overlook that. Yea, she used tactics and skill to beat one of the top top-tier heralds. Which, is what she does, it's part of her ability set. It's entirely silly to discount that because with that, she's top-tier.
Marvel's stalemated him on strength before WW can't do so. Marvel is a peer to Superman on practically every level whereas WW isn't. That's the point. Ww also suckered him in that fight right on the domepiece.
And WW has more abilities than Marvel and overall does better than him clearly. She's a better fighter and has more powers.
That's like saying "Superman loses to X, as long as he doesn't use heat vision, freeze breath, or speed or flight."
Then Superman doesn't really lose to X and isn't less powerful because he has all those things. Same with WW.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You and I both know the context of some of these situations aren't as you are making them out to be.
What, precisely, is the misleading context of a list?
But really, this is standard. "Here's a dozen examples of her beating against characters of the type asked. Oh, but they're without context, therefore I must conclude that I should disregard them all because that's misleading!"
Every single one of those has her doing well against top-tier herald levelers, and most of 'em were in strait fights. Obviously not ones like her taking down the JLA, but that's still really impressive.
The undercutting WW gets from some posters is pathetic.
