Originally posted by DeadlinePunching technique is used to produce more power. Spiderman already has more power than Cap, so his technique being worse doesn't matter.
Punching technique he also knows pressure points etc.
What does pressure points have to do with punches, you mean Cap knows where to punch?
What's the etc?
Originally posted by Mindset
Punching technique is used to produce more power. Spiderman already has more power than Cap, so his technique being worse doesn't matter.
Not neccsarily for example you have chi etc. Also its his technique mixed with other factors knowing where to hit etc.
Originally posted by Mindset
What does pressure points have to do with punches, you mean Cap knows where to punch?What's the etc?
Basically, he used pressure points on Proffesor Hulk for starters.
Originally posted by DeadlineCap without his shield isn't taking much punishment at all. And cap always has his shield. Spider-man can hit his head as hard if not harder than a cannonball repeatedly. Caps shield is what's tough. As for the other two they need their weapons too in order to stand a chance. Spider-man's ridiculously strong he could literally rip them to shreds. 😮💨
and you still don't know what you're talking about. Cap can take class 10 shots not sure about the others.
Originally posted by DeadlineI have chi? Stop saying etc. just state what it is, seems like you don't actually know what else so you just throw in etc. Spiderman doesn't need better technique, he punches harder than Cap.
Not neccsarily for example you have chi etc. Also its his technique mixed with other factors knowing where to hit etc.Basically, he used pressure points on Proffesor Hulk for starters.
He punched Hulk's pressure points?
Originally posted by The MISTER
Cap without his shield isn't taking much punishment at all. And cap always has his shield. Spider-man can hit his head as hard if not harder than a cannonball repeatedly. Caps shield is what's tough. As for the other two they need their weapons too in order to stand a chance. Spider-man's ridiculously strong he could literally rip them to shreds. 😮💨
Ok bruv I just stated that he can and I know that because he's done it in comics.
Originally posted by Mindset
I have chi? Stop saying etc. just state what it is, seems like you don't actually know what else so you just throw in etc. Spiderman doesn't need better technique, he punches harder than Cap.
No Cap knows how to use chi but obvoulsy not on the lvl of Iron Fist. I've already given you reasons as to why he can do it. I also don't need to give you a detailed explantion. I don't know how Bullseye does what he does either just because I can't give you a detailed explanation doesn't mean what he does is PIS.
Originally posted by Mindset
He punched Hulk's pressure points?
No he used his fingers.
Originally posted by DeadlineThat's the kind of trolling I'm talking about. I knew you had it in you. Great job my boy. 🙂*yawn* Get on with it.
Spider-Man hits farrr harder than Cap. Cap is not bulletproof either. He hits harder than the either forces. Cap might be able to survive a shot to the head if he is lucky, but he will be f'ed up.
I don't see why there is an argument about him being ko'ed or not. I could see you arguing him dying from the hit to an extent, but c'mon.
The loop in logic is so bad it is a wallbanger.
Punching power is based off of strength, weight, leverage, technique and speed. Cap only has an advantage in tech. He is heavier, but his strength difference is so far off that it doesn't matter.
Originally posted by Deadline
No Cap knows how to use chi but obvoulsy not on the lvl of Iron Fist. I've already given you reasons as to why he can do it. I also don't need to give you a detailed explantion. I don't know how Bullseye does what he does either just because I can't give you a detailed explanation doesn't mean what he does is PIS.No he used his fingers.
Ok, well Cap's chi amped punches, lol, are not stronger than Spiderman's, so it still doesn't matter.
You didn't give me reasons why Cap's punches are more effective, you just said he has better technique, which would be used to increase punching power, which Spiderman has more of. Ok, you don't have to give an explanation of your argument if you don't have one.
Ok, what does that have to do with punching technique?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That's the kind of trolling I'm talking about. I knew you had it in you. Great job my boy. 🙂
Note how you are selecting certain parts of my post and ignoring relevant parts.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spider-Man hits farrr harder than Cap.
Here it is again.
Originally posted by Deadline
Spiderman hits harder but Caps punches are more effective..
If you can't even be bothered to read the points being made you won't even be able to make a counter argument.
Originally posted by DeadlineCap is not bulletproof either. He hits harder than the either forces.
He doesn't need to be. Spiderman isn't bullet proof either and he can take class 10 shots.
Originally posted by DeadlineCap might be able to survive a shot to the head if he is lucky, but he will be f'ed up.
I don't see why there is an argument about him being ko'ed or not. I could see you arguing him dying from the hit to an extent, but c'mon.
The loop in logic is so bad it is a wallbanger.
You need to understand that your opinion isn't the be and end all of everything. The comics indicate that Cap can take class 10 shots to the head, what you think is irrelevant.
Comics > what you think.
Spider-Man is more durable however than Cap and has a far denser body. His armor helps him but in terms of their respective bodies alone without anything else Spider-Man is considerably more durable.
Nontheless how are his hits more effective? Since you are so far into comics, comics also say he tears apart things far tougher than Cap. It also says Hulk can take Cap's hits without caring too.
Originally posted by -Pr-If you take three men who are in good shape disarm them and pit them against a bear do you think that the fact that they are a group would matter much? Spider-man has lifted a subway car over his head so he's about 10x as strong as a bear. None of the guys he is fighting is anywhere near twice as strong as a bear. Spider-man has thrown one of Kraven's elephants before. He could probably kill a group of bears unarmed so a group of unarmed humans is not a threat at all unless they have some super power that gives them some distinctive advantage. Spider-man knows Daredevil well enough to know that he can overwhelm his senses as a tactic. Cap is a good fighter and so is Batman but they aren't capable of dishing out any real damage to Spider-man. On the other hand Spider-man has the strength and skill necessary to land on the shoulders of any of these guys, grab their head and stand up. If that's too gruesome for you then he could simply snap their fragile necks one at a time. He could likely grab two by the throat and smash their heads together if he didn't feel like crushing the throat as soon as he grabs it. Spider-man holds back from damaging people permanently so he doesn't use tactics like this unless he's fighting robots. When he does fight ROBOTS ( Which are tougher than humans) He rips them to pieces without mercy. In this forum why would he hold back?
If he divides them in to individuals, he takes them easily, but I worry about him taking on a group.
Originally posted by The MISTERHe's way more than 10x stronger than a bear. 😛 Although 3 well trained men vs a bear could be good. Common sense leans to the bear. But a better comparison might be a Xenomorph or something due to their sheer speed.
If you take three men who are in good shape disarm them and pit them against a bear do you think that the fact that they are a group would matter much? Spider-man has lifted a subway car over his head so he's about 10x as strong as a bear. None of the guys he is fighting is anywhere near twice as strong as a bear. Spider-man has thrown one of Kraven's elephants before. He could probably kill a group of bears unarmed so a group of unarmed humans is not a threat at all unless they have some super power that gives them some distinctive advantage. Spider-man knows Daredevil well enough to know that he can overwhelm his senses as a tactic. Cap is a good fighter and so is Batman but they aren't capable of dishing out any real damage to Spider-man. On the other hand Spider-man has the strength and skill necessary to land on the shoulders of any of these guys, grab their head and stand up. If that's too gruesome for you then he could simply snap their fragile necks one at a time. He could likely grab two by the throat and smash their heads together if he didn't feel like crushing the throat as soon as he grabs it. Spider-man holds back from damaging people permanently so he doesn't use tactics like this unless he's fighting robots. When he does fight ROBOTS ( Which are tougher than humans) He rips them to pieces without mercy. In this forum why would he hold back?
Although in this match he isn't bloodlusted, so no killing. However he can ko them all the same so it doesn't matter on the outcome.
Originally posted by Mindset
Ok, well Cap's chi amped punches, lol, are not stronger than Spiderman's, so it still doesn't matter.
Irrelevant as I explained.
Originally posted by Deadline
Spiderman hits harder but Caps punches are more effective.
Originally posted by Mindset
You didn't give me reasons why Cap's punches are more effective, you just said he has better technique, which would be used to increase punching power, which Spiderman has more of. Ok, you don't have to give an explanation of your argument if you don't have one.
Absolutely, all I said was technique. I don't actually remember saying anything about chi (which is a quasi-mystical force) or about knowing where to hit.....I just said technique.
I don't have to convince you are also dodging this point.
Originally posted by Deadline
I also don't need to give you a detailed explantion. I don't know how Bullseye does what he does either just because I can't give you a detailed explanation doesn't mean what he does is PIS.
Originally posted by Mindset
Ok, what does that have to do with punching technique?
It just shows he knows weak points in the body, that can be used in punches and hes done soemthing like that to Spiderman with a punch.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spider-Man is more durable however than Cap and has a far denser body.
No not by a great deal he doesn't. Alot of his showings are comparable.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
His armor helps him but in terms of their respective bodies alone without anything else Spider-Man is considerably more durable.
I don't think you can prove that. Obvoulsy you will be able to show better feats but alot of his feats in general are comparable.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterNontheless how are his hits more effective?
Hes a martial arts expert? He has better punching technique, he knows were to hit, knows how to use chi etc.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterSince you are so far into comics, comics also say he tears apart things far tougher than Cap.
Not neccsarily. Obvoulsy Spiderman has some really impressive showings but characters are not always 100% consistent. By the way I'm not saying he can take class 10 shots all day, a class 10 shot here and there.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterIt also says Hulk can take Cap's hits without caring too.
No it doesn't because its been shown over the years that Cap and pull it off.
Cap is tough, but I meant sans armor he is definitely less durable than Spider-Man.
Spider-Man doesn't have problems tearing apart things though, he just chooses not to.
How many licks does it take to get in the tootsie roll center of a Cappie Pop?
Originally posted by MindsetI've been telling you guys he's really a genius doing this for the laughs while people get frustrated. Why do posters like him, Bruce, quan and others go through the effort for so many years? It's all an act.
Deadline, no offense, but I think you may be retarded.