Dude, you're playing up Spiderman's feat of striking power while ignoring Tony's feats of durability to be pulling out that example.
And you're doing it in contrast to the numerous examples of superhuman durability from the trio..
It's unfair.
Every character in the trio has superb levels of durability, and it doesn't come at the cost of someone elses rep, that' s just how they're generally portrayed...
If you think Spidey can punch through these guys there's not much I can say to that other than 1. you're lowballing their durability and 2. in most cases he likely won't. 😬
Originally posted by zopzop
Good grief, Spider man 10/10. It's not even a contest.PIS off, He still has his spider sense, his super human strength, his super human reflexes, and his unorthodox fighting style. Remember that's SUPER HUMAN. Not peak human, not enhanced human. SUPER HUMAN.
He could literally punch their heads off. Or rip them apart limb by limb without even breaking a sweat. He's class 10 for crying out loud.
If Batman tries to "bat kick" him, Spidey grabs his leg and smashes him into the ground full force. Batman is now paste. Captain America tries to "judo chop" him and he winds up losing his arm. Daredevil is smart enough to run the hell away from him till he calms down and they can talk it out.
Yeah this post is full of nonsense.. I'll feel free to completely ignore it.
Originally posted by jinzin
Dude, you're playing up Spiderman's feat of striking power while ignoring Tony's feats of durability to be pulling out that example.And you're doing it in contrast to the numerous examples of superhuman durability from the trio..
It's unfair.Every character in the trio has superb levels of durability, and it doesn't come at the cost of someone elses rep, that' s just how they're generally portrayed...
If you think Spidey can punch through these guys there's not much I can say to that other than 1. you're lowballing their durability and 2. in most cases he likely won't. 😬
All three are PEAK human at best. What durability are you speaking of?
This guy is class 10. C L A S S 10. He can lift 10 tons with ease. Imagine if he gets his hands on one of them. Like I said, PIS off. With PIS on, I'm sure the trio could beat the Living Tribunal 🙄
Originally posted by zopzop
All three are PEAK human at best. What durability are you speaking of?
This guy is class 10. C L A S S 10. He can lift 10 tons with ease. Imagine if he gets his hands on one of them. Like I said, PIS off. With PIS on, I'm sure the trio could beat the Living Tribunal 🙄
How do you decide whats PIS is baring in mind this is a fictional reality?
Look at scans below.
Originally posted by King KAM
Lets get some [b]Durability feats in here.Cap gets his head used as a battering ram, by a Super suit wearing Red Skull, the entire building falls on him, without his sheild.
And after all that beating....All Cap has is a few scrapes and bruises, and his arm needs to be wrapped, up but he can still use it...he doesnt even go to the hospital.
[/B]
Originally posted by jinzin
Dude, you're playing up Spiderman's feat of striking power while ignoring Tony's feats of durability to be pulling out that example.And you're doing it in contrast to the numerous examples of superhuman durability from the trio..
It's unfair.Every character in the trio has superb levels of durability, and it doesn't come at the cost of someone elses rep, that' s just how they're generally portrayed...
If you think Spidey can punch through these guys there's not much I can say to that other than 1. you're lowballing their durability and 2. in most cases he likely won't. 😬
The thing is it was obvoulsy a high showing. He's using a high showing and using it as the norm.
Originally posted by Deadline
How do you decide whats PIS is baring in mind this is a fictional reality?Look at scans below.
It's PIS if a peak human being stands any chance in hell vs a guy that can life GARBAGE trucks with ease, is supremely agile, and has a warning sense.
Red skull did all that too Cap? Wow! Imagine the beating he'd receive at Spidey's hands! Not lookin' too good for your boy.
Originally posted by zopzop
It's PIS if a peak human being stands any chance in hell vs a guy that can life GARBAGE trucks with ease, is supremely agile, and has a warning sense.
Who gets to to define what peak humans are capable of?
Originally posted by zopzop
Red skull did all that too Cap? Wow! Imagine the beating he'd receive at Spidey's hands! Not lookin' too good for your boy.
That was a superhuman Red Skull. facepalm
Originally posted by Deadline
Who gets to to define what peak humans are capable of?
Peak human < Enhanced human < Super human. Irregardless how I define it, it's LESS in all ways than super human.
That was a superhuman Red Skull. facepalm
And? Nothing in those scans is beyond Spider man's capability.
Originally posted by DeadlineSure I am. You seem to think it's fine for him to stagger the Hulk who has a history of taking much stronger impacts, but someone much more powerful isn't capable of knocking him out. Based on your shoddy featwar logic I could use several higher end examples as well, I notoriously hate featwars though. I'm glad you brought up Spider-Man's foes, most of them have very high end durability, moreso than Cap. What happens when he cuts loose on them? And for the last time Spider-Man hits far harder than a class 10. He's on a higher level than Cap. Just like Hulk is on a higher level than Spider-Man.
Anybody can make a statment like that, you need to make credible arguments.No C-master you're not. There is a wealth of evidence that Cap can take on Spiderman eg taking class 10 shots to the head and taking on Spiderman villains. There is not a wealth of evidence that suggests that Spiderman can take on Thor or Firelord. Theres the difference.
As I've already stated you clearly argued that it was a good enough comparison in the past.
There's a wealth of evidence of Spider-Man easily knocking out human characters, high end or not. Even doing it with the flick of a wrist.
Originally posted by jinzinNot really. Even if you count the tons of other things Spider-Man has smashed together with his hands, tanks and the like. He's able to knock them unconscious. He is capable of damaging Tony's armor and has done it before (he won't beat him though of course). I find this funny because people were arguing Cap hurting Spider-Man with his suit on during civil war despite it being a powerful bulletproof mesh on top of his further upgraded durability. To insinuate that he isn't capable of knocking out any of the three with a hit *on the forum* is unreal to say the least. The trio don't have legitimate superhuman durability. They survive longer in comic books, but that plot induced magic doesn't carry over on the forum.
Dude, you're playing up Spiderman's feat of striking power while ignoring Tony's feats of durability to be pulling out that example.And you're doing it in contrast to the numerous examples of superhuman durability from the trio..
It's unfair.Every character in the trio has superb levels of durability, and it doesn't come at the cost of someone elses rep, that' s just how they're generally portrayed...
If you think Spidey can punch through these guys there's not much I can say to that other than 1. you're lowballing their durability and 2. in most cases he likely won't. 😬
I don't believe I made the argument that he's just "wading" through anybody, just that he can knock any of them out. Furthermore this is even sillier when it comes down that you don't need the max force to ko someone anyways, they just need to be hit properly.
Originally posted by zopzop
All three are PEAK human at best. What durability are you speaking of?
This guy is class 10. C L A S S 10. He can lift 10 tons with ease. Imagine if he gets his hands on one of them. Like I said, PIS off. With PIS on, I'm sure the trio could beat the Living Tribunal 🙄
You somehow think that being a "peak human" somehow limits their typical portrayals of having an excess of superhuman attributes.
Captain America's had his head used for a battering ram. He has superhuman degrees of durability, it's not up for debate.
Spiderman is stronger than class ten but it's nice to know you're talking out your ass on both sides of this argument...
Yes... I'm sure Spiderman is = with the Living Tribunal... 🤨
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Not really. Even if you count the tons of other things Spider-Man has smashed together with his hands, tanks and the like. He's able to knock them unconscious. He is capable of damaging Tony's armor and has done it before (he won't beat him though of course). I find this funny because people were arguing Cap hurting Spider-Man with his suit on during civil war despite it being a powerful bulletproof mesh on top of his further upgraded durability. To insinuate that he isn't capable of knocking out any of the three with a hit *on the forum* is unreal to say the least. The trio don't have legitimate superhuman durability. They survive longer in comic books, but that plot induced magic doesn't carry over on the forum.I don't believe I made the argument that he's just "wading" through anybody, just that he can knock any of them out. Furthermore this is even sillier when it comes down that you don't need the max force to ko someone anyways, they just need to be hit properly.
There's a serious double standard in saying "Spiderman can smash Tony's armor, he's done it before"
But ignoring "Cap/DD can take a spidey punch, they've done it before"...
Or worse "peak human MA's can beat Spiderman, they've done it before"...
Upholding Spiderman's feats and ignoring theirs isn't genuine argumentation IMO.
I didn't argue that he can't KO them, just that their durability's being undersold.
Originally posted by jinzin
There's a serious double standard in saying "Spiderman can smash Tony's armor, he's done it before"But ignoring "Cap/DD can take a spidey punch, they've done it before"...
Or worse "peak human MA's can beat Spiderman, they've done it before"...Upholding Spiderman's feats and ignoring theirs isn't genuine argumentation IMO.
I didn't argue that he can't KO them, just that their durability's being undersold.
There is one major difference. Spider-Man doesn't really hit heroes near his hardest, as he can in this scenario.
I don't know where the "peak human" part came from. I didn't say that. They are "human" no matter how high end they are though. There is only so much they can really take.
Spider-Man can do a ground smash, break tanks, concrete, buildings, etc. Most without much effort. He can generate the force to ko a human or kill them without much effort. These guys are considerably tougher but he can still do it. On the forum he fights like he's hitting the Hulk or Thing, not his best friend or partners.
As far as the match goes, I think it is a good match. I was just clearing that up. But you know how arguing with Deadline can be. He can make your head hurt if you actually take him seriously, and even if you don't take him seriously he twists your posts around to no end. Either way I have to take care of business before the stores close, so I'm out of here. Stay safe, and good luck teaming up with your new friend. I guess arguing against both of you brought you two together. 😍 😛
Originally posted by Mindset
I didn't think the statement would lead to e-tears, wont happen again.
e-tears? 😆
anywho, i'd take spidey for a slight forum majority methinks. maybe 6/10. don't think any of them are easy though. jinzin's right--they are only peak human in the comicbook sense. PLENTY of superhuman level striking and durability feats among that group.....
