Originally posted by MindshipSpider-Man is in an area with walls where he can bounce around and climb the ceiling as well. PIS in comics won't really help Cap because the plot isn't really here to help him. Those fights were the typical "hit each other and draw" type of matchups. On the forum it's a different fight altogether. Much like Batman.
No, it doesn't. But Batman especially is very good at distraction; he could use, eg, his cape to whatever advantage. And they can use each other, eg, 3-way back-to-back, radar sense covering above.There was a time I would've given this to Spider-Man, hands-down, no question. But iirc, in comics, he and Cap fought 4x, and Cap won every time. And Batman is Cap's equal or just below.
I can see Spider-Man winning (personally, I think he should). I just don't think he would.
I think either side can win, Cap doesn't have a chance in a straight up fight alone though if all things are serious.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spider-Man also beat Firelord, Thor, Titania, in comics as well... I like that logic. 🙂
Firelord was tired don't know about the others. The power gap between Cap and Spiderman isn't as great as Spiderman and Firelord anyway, so again those are not good examples. Both Spiderman and Cap are street levelers, Spiderman isn't a herald lvl character.
Theres actually no reason as to why Spiderman shouldn't be able to beat Titania with tactics. From what I can remember in one fight he beat her by throwing her.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Why are we picking and choosing?
Because there are logical reasons why he can beat Titania. Thor and Firelord are alot more powerful than Titania thats one of the logical reasons.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spider-Man isn't street level.
I don't want to get into a semantical debate with you, but theres a reason why Spiderman was in the Shadowlands mini series with lots of other street super heroes.
Originally posted by DeadlineYeah so was Wolverine and Ghostrider 🙄 appereantly 2 low streets.
I don't want to get into a semantical debate with you, but theres a reason why Spiderman was in the Shadowlands mini series with lots of other street super heroes.
I agree that Spider-man OPERATES on the streets like street leveler but his power level is definately higher.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Yeah so was Wolverine and Ghostrider 🙄 appereantly 2 low streets.I agree that Spider-man OPERATES on the streets like street leveler but his power level is definately higher.
Thats correct but comparisons are being made betwen Spiderman and Firelord. If Spiderman was THAT powerful he wouldn't have been included.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The trick master is trying to make it look like *I'm* playing the trick. I thought my point was pretty clear.
I don't see how it's a partcularly good point. You clearly think that Spiderman is too powerful for Cap and you gave examples to illustrate your point.
You have also made this argument before and you clearly were not joking. You blantantly stated that comparing Thor vs Spiderman wasn't a bad comparison to Cap vs Spiderman.
good fight.
I think the trio's getting way undersold on their performances in durability in this thread though.
You don't have to be bullet proof to be able to whether blows from Spiderman and NONE of these guys are exactly comparible to a mere human being so....
Anywho, I think CIS makes this a tougher fight to win than lose for Peter but I don't know what the odds on this fight might be.
Their durability isn't really being undersold because this isn't a comic fight. Unless the characters in question are tougher than Tony's armor or Tank Shell then they are capable of being ko'ed in a hit. It doesn't need *anywhere* near that amount of force anyways. It might not happen every time but it can happen and to say it is impossible sounds silly. Not saying *you* said that, but I mean in general.
Originally posted by DeadlineNot by your standards no. I'm just using your logic.
I don't see how it's a partcularly good point. You clearly think that Spiderman is too powerful for Cap and you gave examples to illustrate your point.You have also made this argument before and you clearly were not joking. You blantantly stated that comparing Thor vs Spiderman wasn't a bad comparison to Cap vs Spiderman.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Not by your standards no.
Anybody can make a statment like that, you need to make credible arguments.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterI'm just using your logic.
No C-master you're not. There is a wealth of evidence that Cap can take on Spiderman eg taking class 10 shots to the head and taking on Spiderman villains. There is not a wealth of evidence that suggests that Spiderman can take on Thor or Firelord. Theres the difference.
As I've already stated you clearly argued that it was a good enough comparison in the past.
Good grief, Spider man 10/10. It's not even a contest.
PIS off, He still has his spider sense, his super human strength, his super human reflexes, and his unorthodox fighting style. Remember that's SUPER HUMAN. Not peak human, not enhanced human. SUPER HUMAN.
He could literally punch their heads off. Or rip them apart limb by limb without even breaking a sweat. He's class 10 for crying out loud.
If Batman tries to "bat kick" him, Spidey grabs his leg and smashes him into the ground full force. Batman is now paste. Captain America tries to "judo chop" him and he winds up losing his arm. Daredevil is smart enough to run the hell away from him till he calms down and they can talk it out.