Surfer and Thanos vs Wally West and Zoom, no PIS, CIS, BFR, or BS Megamatch!!!

Started by carver943 pages

Just because you can run at light speed doesn't mean that you can throw a 100000 punches in a second, that's crazy.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
If someone can throw more than 186,000 punches per second they are moving over light speed.

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What did you say your IQ was again?

i'm assuming he means that since light travels that many miles per second, a humanoid arm reaching out (2.x feet) and being pulled back 186000/1 sec should be achievable

edit* didn't see he said OVER lightspeed

Originally posted by batdude123
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What did you say your IQ was again?

It's over....

Man that's just so played out... 😛

Originally posted by batdude123
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What did you say your IQ was again?

152.

But it does make sense doesn't it? If you can do anything over 186,000 times in a second your moving past light speed as light only moves 186,000 miles per second.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
152.

But it does make sense doesn't it? If you can do anything over 186,000 times in a second your moving past light speed as light only moves 186,000 miles per second.

Depends, it isn't really that difficult to punch 2x in one second. You don't even have to be in great shape to do that. 😬

Originally posted by Black bolt z
But it does make sense doesn't it? If you can do anything over 186,000 times in a second your moving past light speed as light only moves 186,000 miles per second.

No.

Not that I have a problem with him punching that fast, it should be easy for him, but his feet movements and his hand movements aren't the same. A full flurry of punches should be faster than his foot speed.

I'm still quite amused at the random hyperbolish comment by Surfer from the random Marvel Comics Presents issue being the definite proof of the character's capabilities.

Too bad that's not enough to put Surfer over Byrne era Superman, much less the current version or even more ridiculous, Zoom level.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm still quite amused at the random hyperbolish comment by Surfer from the random Marvel Comics Presents issue being the definite proof of the character's capabilities.

Too bad that's not enough to put Surfer over Byrne era Superman, much less the current version or even more ridiculous, Zoom level.

I figured Superman had some travel feat that would be up there with that. He's done all kinds of high end ones. Do you have one you can list off of the top of your head with a scan or issue #? 🙂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Couldn't just drop it could you?

A thousand punches in a second:
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/thoupun.jpg

Two thousand punches per second:
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/200ex.jpg

To that, I'd like to add these...

This demonstrates the amount of punches Zoom can deliver in a VERY short amount of time:
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9538/zoomspeedpunches1.png

This demonstrates the force he can pack behind his punches:
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3699/zoomspeedpunches2.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9439/zoomspeedpunches3.jpg

It's really quite ridiculous to believe Surfer/Thanos could simply 'shake off' millions of Superman-level punches delivered THAT rapidly. Ridiculous.

I think the current argument is they'll use an omni directional blast or something. Maybe one or two are arguing immunity.

Originally posted by Galan007
To that, I'd like to add these...

This demonstrates the amount of punches Zoom can deliver in a VERY short amount of time:
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9538/zoomspeedpunches1.png

This demonstrates the force he can pack behind his punches:
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3699/zoomspeedpunches2.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9439/zoomspeedpunches3.jpg

It's really quite ridiculous to believe Surfer/Thanos could simply 'shake off' millions of Superman-level punches delivered THAT rapidly. Ridiculous.

That's one sharp sig my friend. I take it you had a 2 day?

Whoops. Double post.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I think the current argument is they'll use an omni directional blast or something. Maybe one or two are arguing immunity.

That's one sharp sig my friend. I take it you had a 2 day?

Ah, despite the fact that Zoom made an AMPED Wally look pathetically slow, Thanos/Surfer are going to have enough time to manifest energy attacks before they are blitzed..? Meh, w/e.

Lol, I literally cropped an image from a comic and slapped my name and a border on it. 10 mins, tops. 😛

But yeah, this is the last day of my 4 day. I work Christmas eve AND Christmas day. 👇

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I figured Superman had some travel feat that would be up there with that. He's done all kinds of high end ones. Do you have one you can list off of the top of your head with a scan or issue #? 🙂
For the hyperbolish comments, like I said, I can compete just by using early Byrne era Superman, who has repeatedly been stated, both by himself (exp a.) and the narration (exp b.) , to perceive and operate within nanoseconds:

a.Can perceive individual nanoseconds.
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/NanosecondPerception.jpg

b.And especially this one. His body is so speeded up that he can casually interact in a fraction of a nanosecond, an instant suspended between „eternities of past and future” – a time suspension. The fact that it's the narration and not the character himself who randomly says it also lends much more weight to it than the Surfer example.
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/NanosecondInteraction1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/NanosecondInteraction2.jpg

And I find flightspeed rather irrelevant. He has gone to the edge of Andromeda Galaxy and back (25 Million light-years), he's flied from Vega to Earth in seconds (25 light-years) and the like but this isn't evidence of their combat speed.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ah, despite the fact that Zoom made an AMPED Wally look pathetically slow, Thanos/Surfer are going to have enough time to manifest energy attacks before they are blitzed..? Meh, w/e.

Lol, I literally cropped an image from a comic and slapped my name and a border on it. 10 mins, tops. 😛

But yeah, this is the last day of my 4 day. I work Christmas eve AND Christmas day. 👇

Well they are for some reason "unable" to throw over 1,000 punches a second or something, and Wally can only do one IMP at a time.

It is simple, but I like the look of it. I had mine for 3 years. Only jinzin keeps his sigs longer...

Yuck. Do you have a comp? I've been lounging around, but come Monday, we'll have to hit it hard.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well they are for some reason "unable" to throw over 1,000 punches a second or something, and Wally can only do one IMP at a time.

It is simple, but I like the look of it. I had mine for 3 years. Only jinzin keeps his sigs longer...

Yuck. Do you have a comp? I've been lounging around, but come Monday, we'll have to hit it hard.

Ah, gotcha. durfslap

Thanks.

Oh yeah. I'd lose my mind if I didn't take my laptop to work. lol.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ah, gotcha. durfslap

Thanks.

Oh yeah. I'd lose my mind if I didn't take my laptop to work. lol.

Where do you work? I'm now taking my laptop to work as well.

Originally posted by Philosophía
For the hyperbolish comments, like I said, I can compete just by using early Byrne era Superman, who has repeatedly been stated, both by himself (exp a.) and the narration (exp b.) , to perceive and operate within nanoseconds:

a.Can perceive individual nanoseconds.
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/NanosecondPerception.jpg

b.And especially this one. His body is so speeded up that he can casually interact in a fraction of a nanosecond, an instant suspended between „eternities of past and future” – a time suspension. The fact that it's the narration and not the character himself who randomly says it also lends much more weight to it than the Surfer example.
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/NanosecondInteraction1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/NanosecondInteraction2.jpg

And I find flightspeed rather irrelevant. He has gone to the edge of Andromeda Galaxy and back (25 Million light-years), he's flied from Vega to Earth in seconds (25 light-years) and the like but this isn't evidence of their combat speed.


Great work.

That's the thing with speed, DC is somewhat like Anime. You have Superman doing these feats, which is fine and good. And is clearly not on Zoom's level of speed. Even if at times (always) he and Flash aren't fighting at their max.

Despite some discretion, it's been made very clear that Zoom is on an insane level of speed as well as the Flash's. Rebirth had some great showings of that to boot.

Kinda proves our point all along.