Originally posted by Tha C-Master👆
Despite some discretion, it's been made very clear that Zoom is on an insane level of speed as well as the Flash's. Rebirth had some great showings of that to boot.
Speed-wise no character has done what Zoom has. He is literally in a tier of his own.
Imo, the only time Wally may have been on his level was when he absorbed the speed of Krakkl + everyone on earth (inc. heroes) to beat the Cosmic Gamblers' instantaneous travel via temporal means.
Originally posted by illadelph12Quiet you before I sick King Castle on you. uhuh
Originally posted by Galan007Yea Zoom is faster, although Flash no BS is probably behind him on the Forum's most Dangerous list before you get to the big guys who can alter space-time or are omnipresent and beyond.
👆Speed-wise no character has done what Zoom has. He is literally in a tier of his own.
Imo, the only time Wally may have been on his level was when he absorbed the speed of Krakkl + everyone on earth (inc. heroes) to beat the Cosmic Gamblers' instantaneous travel.
People just seem to forget that despite some inconsistency, these guys are capable of tons in this match, especially punching 1 million times or anything like that.
Originally posted by Galan007technically, the chick in the first scan did just that. *shrug*
To that, I'd like to add these...This demonstrates the amount of punches Zoom can deliver in a VERY short amount of time:
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9538/zoomspeedpunches1.pngThis demonstrates the force he can pack behind his punches:
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3699/zoomspeedpunches2.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9439/zoomspeedpunches3.jpgIt's really quite ridiculous to believe Surfer/Thanos could simply 'shake off' millions of Superman-level punches delivered THAT rapidly. Ridiculous.
Zoom speedblitzing Superman and making him look like a statue in itself is something that puts him at a level Surfer and Thanos have no business competing with - since they can't compete with Superman either, hyperbole included or not. Both of them are generally outclassed when they meet a true speedster (see Runner, for both of them - who despite popular belief isn't comparable to Wally at his best in the slightest) or even skilled/fast combatants (see Midnight Sun and Gamora). And those are just a few examples.
I just can't believe that the forum really is at the point where people think they can compete with the likes of Zoom/Wally, who are practically the epitomes of speed in comics. Not only that, but the reaching taking place in this thread is stupendous, like in the part pertaining to the "How many punches/IMPs can the Flash/Zoom deliver".
I'm wondering just how many posters are actually reading the comics and not basing what they say on the scans popping up on the forum, coupled with their love for one character/hate for another.
Originally posted by psycho gundamI think you missed the point behind those scans.
technically, the chick in the first scan did just that. *shrug*
We know how many punches Zoom can deliver in a very short amount of time (1st scan) -- we know the power he can pack behind said punches (2nd-3rd scans.)
In an all-out, no holding back, PIS/CIS free setting (eg. this thread) he's going to be putting those abilities together.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaI am not sure people are even familiar with the characters.
Zoom speedblitzing Superman and making him look like a statue in itself is something that puts him at a level Surfer and Thanos have no business competing with - since they can't compete with Superman either, hyperbole included or not. Both of them are generally outclassed when they meet a true speedster (see Runner, for both of them - who despite popular belief isn't comparable to Wally at his best in the slightest) or even skilled/fast combatants (see Midnight Sun and Gamora). And those are just a few examples.I just can't believe that the forum really is at the point where people think they can compete with the likes of Zoom/Wally, who are practically the epitomes of speed in comics. Not only that, but the reaching taking place in this thread is stupendous, like in the part pertaining to the "How many punches/IMPs can the Flash deliver".
I'm wondering just how many posters are actually reading the comics and not basing what they say on the scans popping up on the forum, coupled with their love for one character/hate for another.
For instance, like above, people don't realize Zoom fights to strengthen, not to destroy. He's shown this time and *time* again and it is his character concept. Anyone who has read their comics would know that. This thread is pure hax. Now I don't have a problem with people disagreeing with me or supporting them, but it's obvious reaching. There really doesn't need to be 2 people on the second team (or either really considering the short time frame).
Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm wondering just how many posters are actually reading the comics and not basing what they say on the scans popping up on the forum, coupled with their love for one character/hate for another.
You just described about 75% of the forum, tbh. And that's being optimistic.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaIt's nothing new. But like you said, I honestly can't remember the last time I saw reaching like this.
Zoom speedblitzing Superman and making him look like a statue in itself is something that puts him at a level Surfer and Thanos have no business competing with - since they can't compete with Superman either, hyperbole included or not. Both of them are generally outclassed when they meet a true speedster (see Runner, for both of them - who despite popular belief isn't comparable to Wally at his best in the slightest) or even skilled/fast combatants (see Midnight Sun and Gamora). And those are just a few examples.I just can't believe that the forum really is at the point where people think they can compete with the likes of Zoom/Wally, who are practically the epitomes of speed in comics. Not only that, but the reaching taking place in this thread is stupendous, like in the part pertaining to the "How many punches/IMPs can the Flash/Zoom deliver".
I'm wondering just how many posters are actually reading the comics and not basing what they say on the scans popping up on the forum, coupled with their love for one character/hate for another.
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Originally posted by Starscream MIt goes with the territory of the least common denominator, a huge forum like this will have more traffic but you will have exponentially more idiots. It's just how it goes.
can you ban them?
It's about impossible to have both. Either it's a smaller/somewhat elitist forum or it's a huge forum with morons. 😬
