Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I was looking at your post. These mega posts take time, especially when you're busy. I'll post it soon.Post what you like. 🙂
Hehe. Cool2x! Was actually fun debating with ye all. That was prolly my last post on this topic (other than an occaional off-topic greeting) as I feel like this has reached an impasse (w/c, IMO, puts all this into an agree-to-disagree scenario for either side).
Merry X'mas, C!
PS. Wish I understood what these Admiral Akbar references mean. I'm a bit behind on internet humor.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Hehe. Cool2x! Was actually fun debating with ye all. That was prolly my last post on this topic (other than an occaional off-topic greeting) as I feel like this has reached an impasse (w/c, IMO, puts all this into an agree-to-disagree scenario for either side).Merry X'mas, C!
PS. Wish I understood what these Admiral Akbar references mean. I'm a bit behind on internet humor.
Yea, it really has between us two, but that's the start of a great thread. A very long pissing contest until new members show up. I did leave you with another post you didn't finish though, but it's going to be much of the same thing. Many members have come on here and made great points and will continue to.
Have fun.
Illadelph is saying "It's a Trap"!!!
Star Wars reference.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea, it really has, but that's the start of a great thread. A very long pissing contest until new members show up. I did leave you with another post you didn't finish though, but it's going to be much of the same thing.Have fun.
Illadelph is saying "It's a Trap"!!!
Star Wars reference.
A trap to what? O_o (still don't get it)
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I concur. Surfer probably does travel better than Superman, but Superman just has sooooo many insane feats. The man practically invented them, so I wouldn't be surprised.I'd give Surfer the edge in travel, and Superman the edge in fighting speed and reflexes. The GL's have good travel feats as well.
Now Flash is obviously faster than the Supes or GL's in this match, Zoom makes them all statues (except Flash). hence my thoughts on the thread.
Good post. 🙂
Giving superman the "edge" in fightig speed and reflexes is one thing but trying to portray surfer as slow and out of that speed range is another thing entirely. Starscream has scarcely read a surfer comic in his life so his opinion on surfer as it is is most characters is laughably irrelevant. Moreover he would prefer to just ignore the evidence that is shown in regards to surfers speed. As Ive said before, surfer has performed multiple legitimate speed blitzes,mentally tracked electrical signals, mentally reacted to billions of stars while moving at far FTL etc (i can provide scans as well), all of which display a very high level of combat/reaction/and mental speed. To say that he has never displayed an iota of speed is a statement befitting one of the morons you had previously described. Its just patently ridiculous with respect to the feats avalaible but such bufoonery is
unsurprising from a person of that caliber. The best that people like this can do is use pitiable strawman argumentation claiming that travel speed and combat speed are being conflated when in actuality, surfers travel speed was not being projected onto his speed in combat( a term which individuals like this have no hope of comprehending).
Flash is obviously faster than Surfer indeed, but not fast enough for Surfer to be unable to even process a thought unless u hail from the aforementioned nonsensical school of thought. Thankfully that school of thought is in the minority however. Consequently, in this match, while surfer would certaily be unable to engage in toe to toe physical confrontation with the flash, he would certainly be able to mentally process thoughts to initiate attacks/defensive measures before being koed. This is hardly farfetched given that most do believe Surfer is within supermans speed range and not the snail
some some select and disillusioned posters would like to believe.
The kicker in this match however is Zoom because he makes everyone in this thread look like a snail (yes even flash who initally couldnt even see him) and so as he was portrayed in that arc could probly solo the entire thread with CIS off.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210I guess he's saying the thread is just a trap to people posting.
A trap to what? O_o (still don't get it)
It could be interpreted a few ways.
1. The thread is just haxx and the other team doesn't stand a chance, but people will post anyways.
2. The thread has just begun and will continue. Many mega threads get crazy like this and when they get long they are the bane of some poster's existence. Like Wolverine vs. Spider-Man. I.E, they have no end.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I guess he's saying the thread is just a trap to people posting.It could be interpreted a few ways.
1. The thread is just haxx and the other doesn't stand a chance, but people will post anyways.
2. The thread has just begun and will continue. Many mega threads get crazy like this and when they get long they are the bane of some poster's existence. Like Wolverine vs. Spider-Man. I.E, they have no end.
Gotchaaa. 🙂 Aiyt, thanks!
Well, I won't fall for the trap then. I've posted my last argument on this topic. Consider that my closing arguments. LOL.
Originally posted by Naija boyI think I pretty much agree with what you're saying. There are enough silly posts. You are probably the poster I agree the most with. You seem the most reasonable on that side.
Giving superman the "edge" in fightig speed and reflexes is one thing but trying to portray surfer as slow and out of that speed range is another thing entirely. Starscream has scarcely read a surfer comic in his life so his opinion on surfer as it is is most characters is laughably irrelevant. Moreover he would prefer to just ignore the evidence that is shown in regards to surfers speed. As Ive said before, surfer has performed multiple legitimate speed blitzes,mentally tracked electrical signals, mentally reacted to billions of stars while moving at far FTL etc (i can provide scans as well), all of which display a very high level of combat/reaction/and mental speed. To say that he has never displayed an iota of speed is a statement befitting one of the morons you had previously described. Its just patently ridiculous with respect to the feats avalaible but such bufoonery is
unsurprising from a person of that caliber. The best that people like this can do is use pitiable strawman argumentation claiming that travel speed and combat speed are being conflated when in actuality, surfers travel speed was not being projected onto his speed in combat( a term which individuals like this have no hope of comprehending).Flash is obviously faster than Surfer indeed, but not fast enough for Surfer to be unable to even process a thought unless u hail from the aforementioned nonsensical school of thought. Thankfully that school of thought is in the minority however. Consequently, in this match, while surfer would certaily be unable to engage in toe to toe physical confrontation with the flash, he would certainly be able to mentally process thoughts to initiate attacks/defensive measures before being koed. This is hardly farfetched given that most do believe Surfer is within supermans speed range and not the snail
some some select and disillusioned posters would like to believe.The kicker in this match however is Zoom because he makes everyone in this thread look like a snail (yes even flash who initally couldnt even see him) and so as he was portrayed in that arc could probly solo the entire thread with CIS off.
Surfer isn't a snail. But I think the amount of time this thread will last (incredibly small), it won't matter much unfortunately. That's how these "mega" threads end up anyways.
@Shoko
Surfer easily defeated Ganymede in the end. He was trying to avoid conflict and still while weaker than his current form beat her with great ease.
Thanos slapped her away like nothing despite you showing off how quick she has been on panel showing how good Thanos' reactions are. Well done.
The Superman scan has him amped slightly due to being in the tropical sun iirc so it's irrelevant to this thread.
The Runner was defeated using other means and we've already seen how Thanos reacts to someone fast like the Silver Surfer and the Fallen One when he needs to.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I think I pretty much agree with what you're saying. There are enough silly posts. You are probably the poster I agree the most with. You seem the most reasonable on that side.Surfer isn't a snail. But I think the amount of time this thread will last (incredibly small), it won't matter much unfortunately. That's how these "mega" threads end up anyways.
👆 This is a fairminded asessment.
Originally posted by Naija boyWhich is why threads after a certain amount of power become redundant and end up being one fanbase/company vs another. This isn't quite there yet, but when you get to God (capital G) characters and high end reality warpers it tends to happen.
👆 This is a fairminded asessment.
Originally posted by Naija boySurfer is out of Superman's speed range and I don't believe anybody here is actually calling Surfer slow in the sense that he doesn't have any combat speed - but there's a difference between being fast, and being Superman level fast. Surfer is not the latter.
Giving superman the "edge" in fightig speed and reflexes is one thing but trying to portray surfer as slow and out of that speed range is another thing entirely.
We can throughly debate this anytime you'd like, if you're so certain of your stance. 🙂
Originally posted by Philosophía
Surfer is out of Superman's speed range and I don't believe anybody here is actually calling Surfer slow in the sense that he doesn't have any combat speed - but there's a difference between being fast, and being Superman level fast. Surfer is not the latter.We can throughly debate this anytime you'd like, if you're so certain of your stance. 🙂
Heh. No surfer isnt out of Supes speed range. you mean a battlezone?, let me see how real world stuff goes and I might take you up on your offer. Those long multi-wall of text debates are pretty time consuming so ill have to make time.