Originally posted by carver9Supes punch did the damage and it temp ko'd her. Even with k-nite she couldn't stop him.
Me and you must looked at a different fight between wondy and supes. Supes didn't one shot her. All of his attacks on the way to the sun was directed towards her skull. He heatvision her face all the way until he made it to the sun, he then punch her in the face again, she pulls out kryptonite and he temporarily kos her with a blind side punch. An enraged superman hitting you with a high dosage of heat vision can take its toll on a person.
Zoom's punches aren't anywhere near Superman's best on panel. Not anywhere near them.
Originally posted by thanos-primeodin has never used time manipulation in a fight...I doubt he could. I'd imagine it's something that would take some concentration and not something instantaneous. Also, I'm not really aware of him ever really using time manipulation to any degree that would be applicable in a fight.
Doesn't odion also have time manipulation? if he does he could very well pull zoom into our timestream.
Finally, you have to consider that the second the battle starts, Zoom (if you go by what Cmaster and Galan have said) will have started his million superman level punch barrage....and that's before Odin will have a chance to blink. He cannot survive a million superman punches.
Originally posted by quanchi112Im not even going to discuss the gauntlet feat i have seen people explain it to you half a dozen times there is no changing your mind. Maybe he punches as hard as superman holding back? it is still hard enough to hurt thanos after awhile. Him not ko'ing WW is CIS he tries to make heroes better not kill them. this is true odin's power is alot more than superman level punches but to think millions or billions of them wouldn't hurt thanos is down right retarded i see you have taken your wanking to a whole new level if you can't look at it objectively don't bother responding to me anymore.
There's nothing to misinterpret. I put up all the scans and correctly interpreted it. You can make up all the excuses why it doesn't count but it happened and I posted the scans.Zoom doesn't punch as hard as Superman for one. That's according to one writer who has a low opinion of Superman compared to most writers. These punches didn't even ko WW yet beats Thanos. LOL.
Odin's power is far more than Superman level punches and this didn't ko him. If Zoom is this megabeast showing him koing someone near Thanos' level with these tactics should be no problem.
Originally posted by Starscream MAh didn't know that i had thought that he had used TM before guess i was wrong oh well i guess odin loses in this type of match anyway.
odin has never used time manipulation in a fight...I doubt he could. I'd imagine it's something that would take some concentration and not something instantaneous. Also, I'm not really aware of him ever really using time manipulation to any degree that would be applicable in a fight.Finally, you have to consider that the second the battle starts, Zoom (if you go by what Cmaster and Galan have said) will have started his million superman level punch barrage....and that's before Odin will have a chance to blink. He cannot survive a million superman punches.
Originally posted by thanos-prime
Im not even going to discuss the gauntlet feat i have seen people explain it to you half a dozen times there is no changing your mind. Maybe he punches as hard as superman holding back? it is still hard enough to hurt thanos after awhile. Him not ko'ing WW is CIS he tries to make heroes better not kill them. this is true odin's power is alot more than superman level punches but to think millions or billions of them wouldn't hurt thanos is down right retarded i see you have taken your wanking to a whole new level if you can't look at it objectively don't bother responding to me anymore.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I stated my opinion based on his abilities in a bio and used common sense in this situation.I don't see this as enough either way to ko Thanos. I mean it would bust him up but he's survived far worse and far more powerful characters in the Maker, Tyrant, Mar-vell, and Odin without the use of his shields.
You've enticed me so prepare to take the brunt of a personal mission to really commit myself to this thread now. Just give me time to dig .
[B]you will rue the day you ever dared challenge me.
Let me get this comic I'm at somewhat of a disadvantage here as I care nothing about the flash and need to sort through this issue around 150 you say.
Let's see here he's a little over a light year away.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/The_Infinity_Guantlet_03-43.jpg
Now let's see how long it takes the Surfer to travel this distance with watching Thanos' movements against Cap America.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-42-1.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-43-1.jpgI mean wtf. Is there any other reaction feat greater than this ? I mean the guy is well beyond even 1,000 times the speed of light to travel this distance in a second or two. I mean this is beyond a feat. He wasn't even aware of the Surfer's presence and that's how fast he made it to him at top speed and Thanos still evaded him yet Zoom or Flash is going to beat him before he can react. GFTO.
Ok, mr. I don't comprehend what I read.
Here are the scans.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-09-4.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-10-1.jpgI need only to cut myself off from all sensory input from time, space, reality, thought, and the soul.
I would retain limitless power yet not know my enemies' next move.
My diminished capacity now turns this conflict into a true test of nerves and battle skills.
I just showed you with on panel proof he cut off all sensory input from all the other gems only taking in limitless power so this was Thanos with limitless power under his own skills and battle nerves.
He never lost his boost as his power was returning. What don't you get he was gaining his strength back the entire arc.
Thanos uses his shields before anyone even touches him imo based off this feat or even if he were to get tagged he puts them up immediately afterwards. Forceblock, mind lobo- game over.
Bios being wrong doesn't suggest this bio was off it's obvious the writer intends him to travel at very fast speeds. It makes no sense to create a herald of Galactus who can fly very very quickly on panel and yet be slower than light travel.
The Heavens will run red with blood. But in the end as always, Thanos will stand triumphant. [/B]
Originally posted by D_Dude1210Read the scans. It's plain as day to understand he used his own battle skills and reflexes. It's all right on panel.
Actually, via math, one light year per second is about 31536000x the speed of light.
Thanos only needs to raise his arm. Zoom hasn't shown anywhere near the power to ko anyone even close to WW. It's funny on one instant you fully accept his statement about his punches and on the other you say it's just stupid she wasn't ko'd an dexcuse the impact it had on WW. Am I supposed to believe while holding back Zoom is still hits harder than Superman ?
You've never shown me millions of billions koing anyone close to Thanos level before they can react. All Thanos has to do is raise his arm.
That's all.
Originally posted by quanchi112Actually it's very vague based on the fact he has the gauntlet on his hand. I didn't say it was stupid she wasn't Ko'd i said it has a perfect explanation. Maybe because he hasn't hit anyone with millions and billions of superman level punches before.
Read the scans. It's plain as day to understand he used his own battle skills and reflexes. It's all right on panel.Thanos only needs to raise his arm. Zoom hasn't shown anywhere near the power to ko anyone even close to WW. It's funny on one instant you fully accept his statement about his punches and on the other you say it's just stupid she wasn't ko'd an dexcuse the impact it had on WW. Am I supposed to believe while holding back Zoom is still hits harder than Superman ?
You've never shown me millions of billions koing anyone close to Thanos level before they can react. All Thanos has to do is raise his arm.
That's all.
Originally posted by thanos-primeHe stated on panel he cut off all sensory input from thought, reality, soul, space, and time. Do you know what sensory input means ?
Actually it's very vague based on the fact he has the gauntlet on his hand. I didn't say it was stupid she wasn't Ko'd i said it has a perfect explanation. Maybe because he hasn't hit anyone with millions and billions of superman level punches before.
Superman's hit her far harder and she's been affect far worse so this statement only applies to this writer's opinion.
Originally posted by quanchi112The power gem allows the user to Increase superhuman physical ability's which would include SPEED. As i already said he probably hit's with the force of superman HOLDING back when superman fought her he was going for the kill hence not HOLDING back.
He stated on panel he cut off all sensory input from thought, reality, soul, space, and time. Do you know what sensory input means ?Superman's hit her far harder and she's been affect far worse so this statement only applies to this writer's opinion.
Originally posted by thanos-primePower has nothing to do with speed. he also showed no speed at all during the fight. you see how desperate you are.
The power gem allows the user to Increase superhuman physical ability's which would include SPEED. As i already said he probably hit's with the force of superman HOLDING back when superman fought her he was going for the kill hence not HOLDING back.
Thanos retained limitless power not speed and relied on HIS OWN skills and reflexes.
I mean did you think he was faster than normal when Spider kicked him, or the Hulk punched him, or cloak nabbed him, or when Thor hit him, or when cyclops blasted him, or when wolverine impaled him, or when Vision attacked him.
If Zoom hits harder than all Superman's punches that have ever struck her up to that point hurt her less than Zoom's which affected her far less than Superman's have. Makes no sense it's only according to this writer.
Originally posted by quanchi112Power is a flexible term. LOL at you using him fighting the way he fight's as evidence, he didn't need to use speed up until then because he was in no physical danger only when the threat of him losing the gauntlet came up did he ever need it for speed. LOL when did i ever say harder? when supes is holding back maybe but when he stop he probably hits quite alot harder than zoom.
Power has nothing to do with speed. he also showed no speed at all during the fight. you see how desperate you are.Thanos retained limitless power not speed and relied on HIS OWN skills and reflexes.
I mean did you think he was faster than normal when Spider kicked him, or the Hulk punched him, or cloak nabbed him, or when Thor hit him, or when cyclops blasted him, or when wolverine impaled him, or when Vision attacked him.
If Zoom hits harder than all Superman's punches that have ever struck her up to that point hurt her less than Zoom's which affected her far less than Superman's have. Makes no sense it's only according to this writer.
Originally posted by thanos-primeWhen has the power gem amped anyone's speed or reflexes on panel ?
Power is a flexible term. LOL at you using him fighting the way he fight's as evidence, he didn't need to use speed up until then because he was in no physical danger only when the threat of him losing the gauntlet came up did he ever need it for speed. LOL when did i ever say harder? when supes is holding back maybe but when he stop he probably hits quite alot harder than zoom.
I think it's quite clear what he means. If you felt when he stated I retain infinite power really also meant infinite speed then I suggest never reading another comic book again alone. You know it's ridiculous. It's 'quite clear what happened and what is implied here.
Thanos was fighting sloppy and with overconfidence the entire time but when he needed to he reacted. All on panel.
Ww's statement doesn't apply to him holding back it applies to any punch he's ever hit her with. Even you don't accept it. You are already distancing yourself from the statement.
Originally posted by quanchi112If you really believe he could react to surfer traveling at trillions of times the speed of light then why could he not react to the runner if his reflexes are so good then tell me why? Now you decide what the statements apply to in fact the majority of the time he would have hit her he would have been holding back.
When has the power gem amped anyone's speed or reflexes on panel ?I think it's quite clear what he means. If you felt when he stated I retain infinite power really also meant infinite speed then I suggest never reading another comic book again alone. You know it's ridiculous. It's 'quite clear what happened and what is implied here.
Thanos was fighting sloppy and with overconfidence the entire time but when he needed to he reacted. All on panel.
Ww's statement doesn't apply to him holding back it applies to any punch he's ever hit her with. Even you don't accept it. You are already distancing yourself from the statement.
