Surfer and Thanos vs Wally West and Zoom, no PIS, CIS, BFR, or BS Megamatch!!!

Started by thanos-prime43 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
I've shown Thanos react on panel to someone going like over a trillion times the speed of light while Thanos was fighting someone else. I don't ignore any of their feats whatsoever. All he has to do is raise his arms.

There's no proof of Zoom or the Flash beating anyone near Thanos level before they can react.

That feat could also be interpreted as surfer missing or the gaunlet gave him enhanced speed which is probably more likely and other than that vary vague feat you have nothing else that says he could ever hope to react to them. There doesn't have to be all that need be said is he can throw superman level punches and so many of them that thanos would be ktfo before he ever knows what hit him.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Do thousands of top tier level punches = galaxy busting attacks??

Naaahh.....

I hate when people say things like this. First thing, there is no evidence that odin was hitting thanos with galaxy destroying attacks, especially since asgard didn't have a scratch. Another thing, it doesn't take galaxy level attacks to drop thanos just like it doesn't take solar system or planetary attacks to hurt glads. Zoom and wally can hurt him but putting him down is the question.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well when you get to hax level like this either you stomp the person or they stomp you. That's why the Mxy, warper, god threads get so nasty. It's never a 6/10 or 5/10 or something.
so Zoom is now at reality warping level...really?!

@galan--You're not getting it. You are taking the ridiculous comment about Zoom hitting harder than Superman and acting like it's a fact when

a)We've seen Superman hit WW and affect her far more than Zoom did on panel.

b)this is this writer's own opinion who might have a lower opinion of Superman than other writer's.

It's kinda like jurgens whose opinion was that the odinforce was planetary level. On kmc we are trying our best to factor in various different writers along with their differences of opinions with the various inconsistencies from story to story.

Zoom didn't affect WW like Superman has so one writer's opinion doesn't make something outweigh common sense and on panel fights where we've seen Superman affect her much more than Zoom has.

I accept this writer feels so but other writers don't and neither do I with on panel showings to prove my point not just my opinion.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so Zoom is now at reality warping level...really?!
I don't think he even implied that. srsly

Originally posted by Starscream M
so Zoom is now at reality warping level...really?!

Lol I was just saying when you approach that level of power...

He has done things through time and altered events by himself. He isn't exactly a pushover but he isn't Mxy. 😛

Originally posted by thanos-prime
That feat could also be interpreted as surfer missing or the gaunlet gave him enhanced speed which is probably more likely and other than that vary vague feat you have nothing else that says he could ever hope to react to them. There doesn't have to be all that need be said is he can throw superman level punches and so many of them that thanos would be ktfo before he ever knows what hit him.
I already put up scans showing he cut off all sensory out from the gems and only retained limitless power. He relied on this and his own battle skills and nerves. You must have missed this post.

Wrong. Odin level powers which can easily oneshot Surfer didn't put him down. Superman level punches which I strongly disagree with wouldn't phase Thanos since far greater power he was tanking left and right.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already put up scans showing he cut off all sensory out from the gems and only retained limitless power. He relied on this and his own battle skills and nerves. You must have missed this post.

Wrong. Odin level powers which can easily oneshot Thanos didn't put him down. Superman level punches which I strongly disagree with wouldn't phase Thanos since far greater power he was tanking left and right.

No i just don't see the feat as something it's not and misinterpret the dialogue. LOL at millions of superman level punches not affecting thanos that doesn't even dignify a response.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Lol I was just saying when you approach that level of power...

He has done things through time and altered events by himself. He isn't exactly a pushover but he isn't Mxy. 😛

but where would you put Zoom in regards to Galactus and Odin?

Originally posted by Starscream M
but where would you put Zoom in regards to Galactus and Odin?
Galactus>Odin>Zoom.

People on like Odin have high end mastery over space and time. Plus they can withstand an assault. Galactus shouldn't need to be explained.

Characters who are omnipresent are able to counteract Zoom as well. Zoom benefits from the forum, but he isn't going to "combo to ko" everyone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
@galan--You're not getting it. You are taking the ridiculous comment about Zoom hitting harder than Superman and acting like it's a fact when

a)We've seen Superman hit WW and affect her far more than Zoom did on panel.

b)this is this writer's own opinion who might have a lower opinion of Superman than other writer's.

It's kinda like jurgens whose opinion was that the odinforce was planetary level. On kmc we are trying our best to factor in various different writers along with their differences of opinions with the various inconsistencies from story to story.

Zoom didn't affect WW like Superman has so one writer's opinion doesn't make something outweigh common sense and on panel fights where we've seen Superman affect her much more than Zoom has.

I accept this writer feels so but other writers don't and neither do I with on panel showings to prove my point not just my opinion.

Me and you must looked at a different fight between wondy and supes. Supes didn't one shot her. All of his attacks on the way to the sun was directed towards her skull. He heatvision her face all the way until he made it to the sun, he then punch her in the face again, she pulls out kryptonite and he temporarily kos her with a blind side punch. An enraged superman hitting you with a high dosage of heat vision can take its toll on a person.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Galactus>Odin>Zoom.

People on like Odin have high end mastery over space and time. Plus they can withstand an assault. Galactus shouldn't need to be explained.

Characters who are omnipresent are able to counteract Zoom as well. Zoom benefits from the forum, but he isn't going to "combo to ko" everyone.

Odin struggled to beat thanos

and gave no indication of having reflexes or speed faster than thanos

I see no reason why the same logic that has Zoom beating thanos can't be applied to zoom beating odin

Originally posted by Starscream M
Odin struggled to beat thanos

and gave no indication of having reflexes or speed faster than thanos

I see no reason why the same logic that has Zoom beating thanos can't be applied to zoom beating odin

You think he would beat Odin?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You think he would beat Odin?
I think anyone who can throw anywhere close to a million superman level punches in a second can beat Odin...just as I think they would beat thanos. I don't see why Odin would be any different.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I think anyone who can throw anywhere close to a million superman level punches in a second can beat Odin...just as I think they would beat thanos. I don't see why Odin would be any different.
Well sure if you want to use a match with these kind of stips zoom could very well beat odin but you also have to consider what odin could do going all out with cis off.

doesn't matter. odin is still vulnerable to physical attack.
zoom will kill him before he even realize

Heh, I wouldn't argue it, but if you guys want to argue it be my guest.

Zoom is very, very powerful. But Odin... although I see what your logic is. He like Thanos is tough and has a variety of powers, but it's about getting the time to do it.

Not sure though. He can attack through time. 😬

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Well sure if you want to use a match with these kind of stips zoom could very well beat odin but you also have to consider what odin could do going all out with cis off.
what could Odin do? in the first second, he'd already have been punched close to a million times at superman level...he'd be KOed before he could blink.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Heh, I wouldn't argue it, but if you guys want to argue it be my guest.

Zoom is very, very powerful. But Odin...

well, why not? what exactly would Odin do differently than Thanos against an all-out Zoom?

Originally posted by thanos-prime
No i just don't see the feat as something it's not and misinterpret the dialogue. LOL at millions of superman level punches not affecting thanos that doesn't even dignify a response.
There's nothing to misinterpret. I put up all the scans and correctly interpreted it. You can make up all the excuses why it doesn't count but it happened and I posted the scans.

Zoom doesn't punch as hard as Superman for one. That's according to one writer who has a low opinion of Superman compared to most writers. These punches didn't even ko WW yet beats Thanos. LOL.

Odin's power is far more than Superman level punches and this didn't ko him. If Zoom is this megabeast showing him koing someone near Thanos' level with these tactics should be no problem.