Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I still dont see anything the flashes can do to put surfer away b4 he gets a kill shot... At his best...
I don't think surfer would ever tag them. He has never displayed the speed neccessary to tag someone like flash, a being that can outrace nukes. Surfer best bet is to get airborn. Thanos is a non-factor imo. He isn't fast enough and the speed feats that he have isn't truly speed feats in my eyes and it sure as hell isn't enough to say that he could even dream about hitting flash or zoom.
If thanos team wins its because of surfer.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterHe's welcome to try.
There might be an uprising friend. 😛 Why do you say that (wanting to hear your explanation)?
Originally posted by Galan007Because in this arc Thanos used his mind to beat practically everyone. It makes for interesting storytelling not having Thanos just outright rape everyone to the best of his abilities. There had to be an element of doubt for each scenario. This isn't anything new.
Yeah, after the Runner, you know, STOPPED fighting. noneI have never seen Thanos react that rapidly (the Runner decimating him is a prime example of him NOT doing so.) Furthermore, I have never seen him withstand the type of damage that would be dealt if Superman were to strike him millions of times in less than a second.
At any rate, I'm sure you'll reply with some sad attempt at trying to make your boy look better than he is.... So I'll just go ahead and end this discussion before it makes you look even worse.
Merry Christmas. 🙂
Thanos has withstood attacks from Odin( a guy on panel who destroys galaxies, affects the entire space continuum, affects the multiverse, etc.) ,incomplete ig blast, power gem Thor yet you compare him to Zoom a guy I've heard who can shake and destroy buildings with the snap of his finger. LOL. Thanos rapes planet destroyers and laughs off their blasts like their noobs.
Zoom's more powerful than that but isn't anywhere near Odin level or Thanos level. Odin failed to knock out Thanos and admitted he was actively trying to kill him without even using his shields. To make matters worse Thanos has been upgraded both durability and power wise along with being immune to death.
You haven't shown either Zoom or Flash beating anyone near Thanos level before they can react.
Your entire case is speculation while my entire case has happened on panel. That's the difference between us.
Originally posted by thanos-primecare to debate ? I want to hear you actually explain your opinion and you get overly defensive. Just explain your case it makes you look bad when you resort to personal attacks other than debating.
dude your a disgrace of a fan every time you post in a thanos thread you just make your self look like a fool.
Originally posted by Starscream MLike I've said dozens of times now: in this particular match, Zoom is permitted to use ALL of his abilities to their MAX in a PIS/CIS-free setting.
zoom has never done that onpanel though
That said, he HAS delivered the aforementioned amount of punches very rapidly, and he HAS delivered Superman-level punches. Him not putting those two abilities together = him not going 'all out'.
Originally posted by Galan007yes, I know he has delivered superman level punches...as per wonder woman
Like I've said dozens of times now: in this particular match, Zoom is permitted to use ALL of his abilities to their MAX in a PIS/CIS-free setting.That said, he HAS delivered the aforementioned amount of punches very rapidly, and he HAS delivered Superman-level punches. Him not putting those two abilities together = him not going 'all out'.
but he has never done even close to millions of superman level punches in a second
he hit wondy how many times...prob less than 10?
10 superman level punches will stagger most
100 will KO most
1000 will devastate virtually all
I feel that to suggest he can throw that MANY superman level punches is extrapolating more than we can from the evidence we have
Originally posted by quanchi112Everything that could be said about how zoom wins has already been said you either accept it or don't there is no reason debating with you because your Bias won't allow you to let him lose.
He's welcome to try.Because in this arc Thanos used his mind to beat practically everyone. It makes for interesting storytelling not having Thanos just outright rape everyone to the best of his abilities. There had to be an element of doubt for each scenario. This isn't anything new.
Thanos has withstood attacks from Odin( a guy on panel who destroys galaxies, affects the entire space continuum, affects the multiverse, etc.) ,incomplete ig blast, power gem Thor yet you compare him to Zoom a guy I've heard who can shake and destroy buildings with the snap of his finger. LOL. Thanos rapes planet destroyers and laughs off their blasts like their noobs.
Zoom's more powerful than that but isn't anywhere near Odin level or Thanos level. Odin failed to knock out Thanos and admitted he was actively trying to kill him without even using his shields. To make matters worse Thanos has been upgraded both durability and power wise along with being immune to death.
You haven't shown either Zoom or Flash beating anyone near Thanos level before they can react.
Your entire case is speculation while my entire case has happened on panel. That's the difference between us.
care to debate ? I want to hear you actually explain your opinion and you get overly defensive. Just explain your case it makes you look bad when you resort to personal attacks other than debating.
Originally posted by Galan007
Like I've said dozens of times now: in this particular match, Zoom is permitted to use ALL of his abilities to their MAX in a PIS/CIS-free setting.That said, he HAS delivered the aforementioned amount of punches very rapidly, and he HAS delivered Superman-level punches. Him not putting those two abilities together = him not going 'all out'.
What he is saying is that zoom never did a million punches in a second and he has never displayed this to be honest. Yes, he has punched power girl a million times but it was never stated how long it took or how long he was in that choke hold... seconds, minutes, we don't know, its all speculation.
Now the 1000 punches per second, that has happened on panel along with superman level punch (actually more powerful).
Originally posted by Tha C-Masterso Zoom can throw millions of superman level punches in less than a sec
People are arguing that he isn't capable now. Never seen his punching speed slow now unless he wanted it to.
now, I know of virtually no one who can even survive 1000 straight superman punches
basically, you're saying Zoom can kill any herald in less than a micro-second?
isn't that a bit too far-fetched?
Originally posted by thanos-primeI've shown Thanos react on panel to someone going like over a trillion times the speed of light while Thanos was fighting someone else. I don't ignore any of their feats whatsoever. All he has to do is raise his arms.
Everything that could be said about how zoom wins has already been said you either accept it or don't there is no reason debating with you because your Bias won't allow you to let him lose.
There's no proof of Zoom or the Flash beating anyone near Thanos level before they can react.
Originally posted by Galan007Yea and a lack of understanding. Not being mean.
Goes back to Phil's post. The reaching/low-balling is truly astounding.
Originally posted by Starscream MZoom is beyond Herald level, especially on the forum and the conditions of this match. Wally is enough hax as it is.
so Zoom can throw millions of superman level punches in less than a secnow, I know of virtually no one who can even survive 1000 straight superman punches
basically, you're saying Zoom can kill any herald in less than a micro-second?
isn't that a bit too far-fetched?
Originally posted by Tha C-Masterbeyond herald level, ok, I can accept.
Yea and a lack of understanding. Not being mean. Zoom is beyond Herald level, especially on the forum and the conditions of this match. Wally is enough hax as it is.
but that much beyond? so basically zoom can take out any herald in less than a second?
meh.
Originally posted by Starscream MWhy? It's not like Zoom had to gain any sort of extra momentum/speed when he hit Dianna with Superman-class punches -- he literally delivered said punches from point blank.
I feel that to suggest he can throw that MANY superman level punches is extrapolating more than we can from the evidence we have
Again: He CAN deliver Superman-level punches -- he CAN deliver millions of punches very rapidly -- he CAN do so without gaining any extra speed.
1+1+1=?
Originally posted by Starscream MWell when you get to hax level like this either you stomp the person or they stomp you. That's why the Mxy, warper, god threads get so nasty. It's never a 6/10 or 5/10 or something.
beyond herald level, ok, I can accept.but that much beyond? so basically zoom can take out any herald in less than a second?
meh.