Originally posted by Galan007
What part of "HE WILL BE FROZEN IN TIME" isn't computing with you?...And what does that scan have to do with Surfer?
wut part of how can u freeze someone who manipulates time better than zoom does? sigh.
who else? duh...
Originally posted by Galan007Shields.
Exactly.Why people think Thanos and Surfer could endure thousands of IMPs, and thousands of Superman-level punches delivered almost instantly after the battle begins, is completely beyond me..
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterPerhaps later with the Fallen One scan.
Let’s get one thing clear about earlier. I don’t “dislike” anybody, I say stuff like that all of the time. So if anybody is offended, my bad. But, that being said, I do believe many members on here who get “bashed” all of the time are being silly and doing it for kicks, there’s just no way after this many years they keep doing what they’re doing and don’t realize it.It’s called fooling around.
Now, let’s get on with this.Yes darling?
What other means? It seems pretty clear that Thanos had a hard time with him, what were these means that pertain to the matchup? Can you please show them to me Mr. Quan?
Where is this? When has Thanos moved Quadrillions of times past the speed of light?
Where is this?
You ended the thread with using math?
Already been done, we’ve explained it in thorough detail. Surfer hasn’t done anything out the range for a GL or Superman and the Flash outright trumps them in speed.
They get stomped you mean?
I believe it does. Intentional or unintentional the feat did really happen, he might have botched it, but it still happened and he still saved the city. This is kinda like the bean counting thing. Were there really 3,200 beans or 32,000? Did the writer mess up or did Superman?
The writers intent was for him to save the people in that amount of time. The point at the end of the day is if he did the feat then he did the feat. The nuke hit and if he had went under lightspeed it wouldn’t have happened.
It would be like having Wolverine slicing off Xavier’s head in an issue. Even if the writer said Wolverine didn’t do it, it wouldn’t count because it’s shown on panel. If that’s the case word of God would dominate and because there are so many writers it would be one big mess.
The only way out of it would be a retcon of some sort. It is a high end feat, but it’s at least done, better than the “counting stars” feat presented on the other side.Well the problem is that comics still revolve around the real world to some extent. The only exceptions is when powers allow people to do otherwise, like flying. Things like the Sun being hot and normal humans dying when they lose their head still applies. People who say that logic doesn’t apply generally don’t like it because they don’t understand it very well. Why would they bother using “Ten ton strength” and “lightspeed” if it weren’t based around the world and something that we understand? Comics have grounding in the real world and on this forum we use logic. Logic is really nothing more than a tool for inferencing.
Whether that inference is in a comic world or the “real world” it still applies.
Magic A is Magic A.
If a character can survive a nuke, then it would be logical to say they can survive a grenade, even if said combatant hasn’t done that. This is the kind of thinking we use in a logical debate.
I put the scans up in response to rage. I also reposted it when debating with thanos prime. His reactions by d-dude's calculations were around this figure.
Surfer's durable enough to take their punishment imo and the power cosmic can literally oneshot them, create massive damage to where they can't even go near them, etc.
No, Team 1 stomps. There's no proof Zoom or the Flash can beat anyone near Thanos level characters before they can react in less than a nanosecond. None. Zero. You haven't provided one example of such.
Originally posted by batdude123Try arguing with it. It'll not be funny any more.
The reaching in this thread is hilarious.
Originally posted by illadelph12He looks impressed.
Originally posted by Galan007I don't think it can be understood. Something with the subtlety of a nuke.
What part of "HE WILL BE FROZEN IN TIME" isn't computing with you?...And what does that scan have to do with Surfer?
Originally posted by quanchi112Sure we have.
Shields.Perhaps later with the Fallen One scan.
I put the scans up in response to rage. I also reposted it when debating with thanos prime. His reactions by d-dude's calculations were around this figure.
Surfer's durable enough to take their punishment imo and the power cosmic can literally oneshot them, create massive damage to where they can't even go near them, etc.
No, Team 1 stomps. There's no proof Zoom or the Flash can beat anyone near Thanos level characters before they can react in less than a nanosecond. None. Zero. You haven't provided one example of such.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterNo, you've done quite the opposite, making up excuses for every blow which was described even as above superman level force yet it didn't even ko WW, ignored statements, and never had anything you described as anyone near Surfer level destroyed in one nanosecond before they could react.
Sure we have.
Originally posted by Black bolt zAlready have.
Prove otherwise.