Surfer and Thanos vs Wally West and Zoom, no PIS, CIS, BFR, or BS Megamatch!!!

Started by celeyhyga1743 pages
Originally posted by batdude123
Logic is getting its ass kicked in this thread.

ure side has been saying that all along. saying how too bad flash's are hax in a pis forum battle cause of such and such etc. etc. speed force this speed force that.

it goes both ways. well guess wut? PC is hax too... =P

Originally posted by Galan007
What part of "HE WILL BE FROZEN IN TIME" isn't computing with you?

...And what does that scan have to do with Surfer?

wut part of how can u freeze someone who manipulates time better than zoom does? sigh.

http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Silver%20surfer%20feats/?action=view&current=Surferlobotomizedcablesbrainofmo-1.jpg

who else? duh...

Originally posted by illadelph12
That needs a speech bubble.

No, Apprentice.

The intent is obvious.

Originally posted by illadelph12
No, Apprentice.

The intent is obvious.

I know. but it needs something to make it funnier.

Like add a speech bubble where he says "oh, you"

Smh...

Much to learn still you have.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Smh...

Much to learn still you have.

Seems funny to me dontgetit

Originally posted by Galan007
Exactly.

Why people think Thanos and Surfer could endure thousands of IMPs, and thousands of Superman-level punches delivered almost instantly after the battle begins, is completely beyond me..

Shields.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Let’s get one thing clear about earlier. I don’t “dislike” anybody, I say stuff like that all of the time. So if anybody is offended, my bad. But, that being said, I do believe many members on here who get “bashed” all of the time are being silly and doing it for kicks, there’s just no way after this many years they keep doing what they’re doing and don’t realize it.

It’s called fooling around.
Now, let’s get on with this.

Yes darling?

What other means? It seems pretty clear that Thanos had a hard time with him, what were these means that pertain to the matchup? Can you please show them to me Mr. Quan?

Where is this? When has Thanos moved Quadrillions of times past the speed of light?

Where is this?

You ended the thread with using math?

Already been done, we’ve explained it in thorough detail. Surfer hasn’t done anything out the range for a GL or Superman and the Flash outright trumps them in speed.

They get stomped you mean?

I believe it does. Intentional or unintentional the feat did really happen, he might have botched it, but it still happened and he still saved the city. This is kinda like the bean counting thing. Were there really 3,200 beans or 32,000? Did the writer mess up or did Superman?
The writers intent was for him to save the people in that amount of time. The point at the end of the day is if he did the feat then he did the feat. The nuke hit and if he had went under lightspeed it wouldn’t have happened.
It would be like having Wolverine slicing off Xavier’s head in an issue. Even if the writer said Wolverine didn’t do it, it wouldn’t count because it’s shown on panel. If that’s the case word of God would dominate and because there are so many writers it would be one big mess.
The only way out of it would be a retcon of some sort. It is a high end feat, but it’s at least done, better than the “counting stars” feat presented on the other side.

Well the problem is that comics still revolve around the real world to some extent. The only exceptions is when powers allow people to do otherwise, like flying. Things like the Sun being hot and normal humans dying when they lose their head still applies. People who say that logic doesn’t apply generally don’t like it because they don’t understand it very well. Why would they bother using “Ten ton strength” and “lightspeed” if it weren’t based around the world and something that we understand? Comics have grounding in the real world and on this forum we use logic. Logic is really nothing more than a tool for inferencing.
Whether that inference is in a comic world or the “real world” it still applies.
Magic A is Magic A.
If a character can survive a nuke, then it would be logical to say they can survive a grenade, even if said combatant hasn’t done that. This is the kind of thinking we use in a logical debate.

Perhaps later with the Fallen One scan.

I put the scans up in response to rage. I also reposted it when debating with thanos prime. His reactions by d-dude's calculations were around this figure.

Surfer's durable enough to take their punishment imo and the power cosmic can literally oneshot them, create massive damage to where they can't even go near them, etc.

No, Team 1 stomps. There's no proof Zoom or the Flash can beat anyone near Thanos level characters before they can react in less than a nanosecond. None. Zero. You haven't provided one example of such.

Wut he said.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wut he said.
What's funny is Surfer has so many more abilities we haven't even touched on like creating black holes, etc. that just makes this plain unfair.

Originally posted by batdude123
The reaching in this thread is hilarious.
Try arguing with it. It'll not be funny any more.
Originally posted by illadelph12
He looks impressed.
Originally posted by Galan007
What part of "HE WILL BE FROZEN IN TIME" isn't computing with you?

...And what does that scan have to do with Surfer?

I don't think it can be understood. Something with the subtlety of a nuke.

Team 2 still stomps.

Yesterday, today, and tomorrow eh?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Team 2 still stomps.
Wrong team.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Shields.

Perhaps later with the Fallen One scan.

I put the scans up in response to rage. I also reposted it when debating with thanos prime. His reactions by d-dude's calculations were around this figure.

Surfer's durable enough to take their punishment imo and the power cosmic can literally oneshot them, create massive damage to where they can't even go near them, etc.

No, Team 1 stomps. There's no proof Zoom or the Flash can beat anyone near Thanos level characters before they can react in less than a nanosecond. None. Zero. You haven't provided one example of such.

Sure we have.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong team.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Team 2 still stomps.
Prove otherwise.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Prove otherwise.
Maybe he confused stomp with get stomped on...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Sure we have.
No, you've done quite the opposite, making up excuses for every blow which was described even as above superman level force yet it didn't even ko WW, ignored statements, and never had anything you described as anyone near Surfer level destroyed in one nanosecond before they could react.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Prove otherwise.
Already have.

I learn from the best.