Originally posted by D_Dude1210
@ Carver. I'll bite. What IS your definition of an omni-blast?
This is an omni blast...
Fast forward to 58 seconds.
I can see flash dodging an omni blast just like this person was easily dodging it.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
@ Carver. I'll bite. What IS your definition of an omni-blast?
This is an omni blast...
Fast forward to 58 seconds.
I can see flash dodging an omni blast just like this person was easily dodging it.
Originally posted by carver9
This is an omni blast...Fast forward to 58 seconds.
I can see flash dodging an omni blast just like this person was easily dodging it.
Explain to me how someone can dodge an omni blast that is radiating from all around his body WHILE punching said person MAKING CONTACT with them as they are radiating. Please show me flash or zoom every doing this.
Originally posted by carver9
This is an omni blast...Fast forward to 58 seconds.
I can see flash dodging an omni blast just like this person was easily dodging it.
That's not an omniblast in the traditional sense. More like a vast number of single blasts that goes in several directions. That is why they can be dodged. A blanket explosion can't be dodged, just ran away from.
Something like that prolly only happens in anime (DBZ mostly). Please show me an omniblast that occurred in comics that actually qualifies under your extremely limited definition.
The correct definition would be a blast that travels in ALL directions and covering a large area.
CRITERIA that my scan EASILY qualifies in.
Besides, my example satisfies the requirements needed to smack Flash/Zoom with an energy attack. It blankets ALL areas with an explosion and would cover ALL the ground sufficiently to run Flash/Zoom out of areas to run to.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Explain to me how someone can dodge an omni blast that is radiating from all around his body WHILE punching said person MAKING CONTACT with them as they are radiating. Please show me flash or zoom every doing this.
I just showed you someone with speed doing this so why wouldn't you believe that flash could do the same thing? Doesn't make sense to me.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
That's not an omniblast in the traditional sense. More like a vast number of single blasts that goes in several directions. That is why they can be dodged. A blanket explosion can't be dodged, just ran away from.Something like that prolly only happens in anime (DBZ mostly). Please show me an omniblast that occurred in comics that actually qualifies under your extremely limited definition.
The correct definition would be a blast that travels in ALL directions and covering a large area.
CRITERIA that my scan EASILY qualifies in.
Besides, my example satisfies the requirements needed to smack Flash/Zoom with an energy attack. It blankets ALL areas with an explosion and would cover ALL the ground sufficiently to run Flash/Zoom out of areas to run to.
That was an omni blast and I am unable to show you anyone in comics dodging it like that but saying that the flash can't dodge an omni blast in the same fashion is ridiculous.
Originally posted by carver9
That was an omni blast and I am unable to show you anyone in comics dodging it like that but saying that the flash can't dodge an omni blast in the same fashion is ridiculous.
It's only ridiculous because your definition is wrong. Very wrong.
You can't dodge a blanket explosion. What's so hard to understand here?
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
It's only ridiculous because your definition is wrong. Very wrong.You can't dodge a blanket explosion. What's so hard to understand here?
What you are describing isn't an omni blast... its more of an explosion or a nuke generating frroma characters body and thanos has never shown that he is capable of doing this.
Again, me and your definition is different when it comes to that. I thought a omni blast was numerous of blast generating from a characters body in every direction.
Originally posted by carver9
What you are describing isn't an omni blast... its more of an explosion or a nuke generating frroma characters body and thanos has never shown that he is capable of doing this.Again, me and your definition is different when it comes to that. I thought a omni blast was numerous of blast generating from a characters body in every direction.
Here's what I think about your DBZ definition of an Omniblast:
An explosion radiating outwards from a character is often the comic book definition of an omniblast. :-/
YOUR definition has prolly never been shown in comics other than DBZ manga.
One of us is wrong. Don't think it's me.
Time to change your definition, IMO.
When did I mention Thanos??? I mentioned the SURFER for this specific reason.
*Sigh* Might have to drop a bomb.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210I have no real doubt he can warp speed travel, although that doesn't go with reaction time, much less Flash's best.
Surfer's travelled so fast before, entire galaxies passed thru in a blur. Half a million light years in a second(s) (possibly less).http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3076/silversurfervol3006us8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/281/silversurfervol3007nn1.jpg
Originally posted by D_Dude1210Electric pulse that surges to the brain is kinetic. Either way Surfer uses kinetic energy
Thought signals are electric in human bodies NOT kinetic. Doesn't work that way for the Surfer as his body is not human or anything resembling human anymore.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Your logic is wrong. It takes a THOUGHT to trigger the PC. If the Surfer can sense it and process it (w/c he's shown he can), he can react to it via omni-blast. Don't really know why you're not getting this. The logic is pretty simple.
No it isn't the same. Flash IMP'ed a Superman level character before he could blink and could do it one time or one thousand times, what's so hard about that. Not to mention Flash and the Anti-Monitor if we're going that route.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210But both can hurt him Gamora particularly, so Flash and Zoom most definitely can.
Drax was designed to kill Thanos.He was playing with Gamora and this was not thru his shields.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiIMP is pretty much a one hit win. He doesn't have to, but he did it before a White Martian could react and could have done it 1,000 times. Please read the KMC rules about full potential.
Okay, please show me the FASTEST the flash has ever IMPd something. I'm looking for the most IMPs in the shortest period of time. It's certainly not close to the billions or millions even. Probably less than 1000. However, if you have any evidence of him doing a million in less than a second please post them.As you say... we know Thanos can Teleport with a thought. We know he can activate his shields in less than a second. We know he can fire blasts from behind his shields (See Omega incident). So we know he can do all these things.... right?
Originally posted by carver9You have to be trolling. It's a well known KMC fact he can punch that fast. Man that's stated in the rules. But until you post Wolverine having been stated as Superhuman speed and strength we have nothing to say.
Its made up... they will never find flash throwing over a thousand punches in a second just like they won't find a single scan saying that flash is fighting a thousand times the speed of light let alone "twice" the speed of light... it doesn't exist. He has went over these speeds... hell, flash has moved faster than instatntaneous movement BUT he had an amp to accompish these things... a major amp.
He can take 532,000 people many miles in under .00001 MICRO seconds, he can definitely punch much faster than he can carry one person several miles, that's just common sense.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
An explosion radiating outwards from a character is often the comic book definition of an omniblast. :-/YOUR definition has prolly never been shown in comics other than DBZ manga.
One of us is wrong. Don't think it's me.
Time to change your definition, IMO.
When did I mention Thanos??? I mentioned the SURFER for this specific reason.
Lol, Ok... I could be wrong but you need to change the wording. Just say that surfer is going to nuke the entire area because the only example thanos or thor (which people say that he can omni blast as well) omni blasting which people use as example are the time when numerous of blast explode from their body.
You didn't mention thanos but a couple of peeps did.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
*Sigh* Might have to drop a bomb.
I have no real doubt he can warp speed travel, although that doesn't go with reaction time, much less Flash's best.Electric pulse that surges to the brain is kinetic. Either way Surfer uses kinetic energy
No it isn't the same. Flash IMP'ed a Superman level character before he could blink and could do it one time or one thousand times, what's so hard about that. Not to mention Flash and the Anti-Monitor if we're going that route.
But both can hurt him Gamora particularly, so Flash and Zoom most definitely can. IMP is pretty much a one hit win. He doesn't have to, but he did it before a White Martian could react and could have done it 1,000 times. Please read the KMC rules about full potential. You have to be trolling. It's a well known KMC fact he can punch that fast. Man that's stated in the rules. But until you post Wolverine having been stated as Superhuman speed and strength we have nothing to say.
He can take 532,000 people many miles in under .00001 MICRO seconds, he can definitely punch much faster than he can carry one person several miles, that's just common sense.
You do know that after flash did all of that in .00001 micro second (don't know where you got that from), he was VERY exhausted right?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
*Sigh* Might have to drop a bomb.
I have no real doubt he can warp speed travel, although that doesn't go with reaction time, much less Flash's best.
Didn't post that as an example of reaction time. In fact I clearly made mention that it is a traveling feat.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Electric pulse that surges to the brain is kinetic. Either way Surfer uses kinetic energy
Post scans of Flash actually halting some1's mental reaction time. The only kinetic energy he's stolen is basically motion energy. Post scans or stop manufacturing feats/powers from thin air.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No it isn't the same. Flash IMP'ed a Superman level character before he could blink and could do it one time or one thousand times, what's so hard about that. Not to mention Flash and the Anti-Monitor if we're going that route.
He did it once. Claiming is not doing. Ppl claimed that Gladiator can tear a star in half but he'll need to do it before the feat becomes valid.
Post scans of 1000 IMPs pls.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But both can hurt him Gamora particularly, so Flash and Zoom most definitely can. IMP is pretty much a one hit win. He doesn't have to, but he did it before a White Martian could react and could have done it 1,000 times. Please read the KMC rules about full potential. You have to be trolling. It's a well known KMC fact he can punch that fast. Man that's stated in the rules. But until you post Wolverine having been stated as Superhuman speed and strength we have nothing to say.
He was toying with Gamora. He was pretending thru the whole instance. What's hard to figure out here?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He can take 532,000 people many miles in under .00001 MICRO seconds, he can definitely punch much faster than he can carry one person several miles, that's just common sense.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/evucity.jpg
You mean the same scan that states that he was simply travelling "a hair's breadth short of light speed?"
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Didn't post that as an example of reaction time. In fact I clearly made mention that it is a traveling feat.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Post scans of Flash actually halting some1's mental reaction time. The only kinetic energy he's stolen is basically motion energy. Post scans or stop manufacturing feats/powers from thin air.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
He did it once. Claiming is not doing. Ppl claimed that Gladiator can tear a star in half but he'll need to do it before the feat becomes valid.Post scans of 1000 IMPs pls.
IMP is pretty much a one shot, no need to use it that many times, says something eh?
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
He was toying with Gamora. He was pretending thru the whole instance. What's hard to figure out here?
Originally posted by D_Dude1210Check your numbers, the feat was much faster, and doesn't take away from his punching ability at all.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/evucity.jpgYou mean the same scan that states that he was simply travelling "a hair's breadth short of light speed?"
The feat you're trying to use SPECIFICALLY SAID HE WAS GOING UNDER LIGHT SPEED. Yet you're trying to use this feat to justify flash punching someone 1 million times in a nanosecond and or punching someone with 1,000 IMPs? Come on man, you have to do better than that. Please post ANY scan of Flash or Zoom punching someone 1 million times in a second or even 1,000 times in less than a second. I want to see them actually do this in a combat situation in under a second. It would have to be under a second because of how fast Thanos and Surfer on panel have been shown to react. Much faster than a second even.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The feat you're trying to use SPECIFICALLY SAID HE WAS GOING UNDER LIGHT SPEED. Yet you're trying to use this feat to justify flash punching someone 1 million times in a nanosecond and or punching someone with 1,000 IMPs? Come on man, you have to do better than that. Please post ANY scan of Flash or Zoom punching someone 1 million times in a second or even 1,000 times in less than a second. I want to see them actually do this in a combat situation in under a second. It would have to be under a second because of how fast Thanos and Surfer on panel have been shown to react. Much faster than a second even.
They will never find it but a thousand superman punches should hurt thanos imo. The thing is, the superman level punches is skeptical at best because flash has never koed anybody worth mentioning. Hell, mongul and konvikt just stood there while flash wailed on them... grundy has done this as well.
Can anyone show flash or zoom koing a herald level being?
