Originally posted by Starscream MThanos tanked many blasts from odin and Tyrant. He's also been upgraded. Someone with planet destroying power can't even make Thanos notice them can you say the same of Frieza ?
the point is both odin and tyrant are above thanos...so one doesn't need to be at their level to beat thanos.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not holding onto anything.That alone was the second sign not just the only one. The first is when you came in and automatically assumed I thought the planet destroying feat was impressive. Maybe for a Gladiator character this is Thanos, Logan.
I had to assume what I did since your response had nothing to do with what Carver asked for.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I've given examples of Surfer's power he's destroyed a planet while fighting Morg this isn't impressive for him either. Hell, Terrax has even destroyed a planet on panel. Means nothing.It seems like you are a hypocrite since it was a spelling error and not punctuation. I won't be graded and unlike you know what I am doing when forming complete sentences, logan.
But that still wasn't providing proof for what Carver directly asked for.
Also...
Corrected - " I've given examples of Surfer's power. He's destroyed a planet while fighting Morg. This isn't impressive for him either."
Corrected - "I won't be graded, and unlike you, know what I am doing when forming complete sentences... Logan."
How am I the hypocrite here? You think spelling is somehow linked to this discussion and worth continually bringing up, but ALSO somehow think your own grammar isn't worth correcting?
😂
But I'M the hypocrite right? 🙄
Originally posted by jinzinIn fact it did it all centered around planetary destroying power. Do you not yet understand ?
I had to assume what I did since your response had nothing to do with what Carver asked for.But that still wasn't providing proof for what Carver directly asked for.
Also...
Corrected - " I've given examples of Surfer's power. He's destroyed a planet while fighting Morg. This isn't impressive for him either."Corrected - "I won't be graded, and unlike you, know what I am doing when forming complete sentences... Logan."
How am I the hypocrite here? You think spelling is somehow linked to this discussion and worth continually bringing up, but ALSO somehow think your own grammar isn't worth correcting?
😂But I'M the hypocrite right? 🙄
Your corrections of my punctuation is incorrect, anywho.
Now you want to steer away from the discussion and focus solely on grammar. Hypocritical me thinks.
Originally posted by quanchi112
In fact it did it all centered around planetary destroying power. Do you not yet understand ?Your corrections of my punctuation is incorrect, anywho.
Now you want to steer away from the discussion and focus solely on grammar. Hypocritical me thinks.
Corrections "are" incorrect... Not is.
I understand perfectly that your posts were centered around planetary busting power... that notion does not automatically preclude that they were directly relivant to Carver's request.
I'm only bringing up the grammar issue to reciprocate your own ridiculous nonsense back at you... It's not me being a hypocrite, it's me mocking you with your own twisted sensibilities about intelligence.
Originally posted by jinzinI gave you that one to make you feel better.
Corrections "are" incorrect... Not is.I understand perfectly that your posts were centered around planetary busting power... that notion does not automatically preclude that they were directly relivant to Carver's request.
I'm only bringing up the grammar issue to reciprocate your own ridiculous nonsense back at you... It's not me being a hypocrite, it's me mocking you with your own twisted sensibilities about intelligence.
I know are is used when plural and wanted to see if you'd cling to it. You did.
It does as his point had to do with Thanos reacting to such force since he wanted to play the we can't tell how much force surfer was using when blasting him game.
You are being a hypocrite which in the end undermines your entire posts prior to these.
I didn't just judge you off the spelling but the assumption on top of the spelling.
Originally posted by jinzinI did but you following suit and abandoning the entire debate which is what you criticized me for when I did it mixed within a post centered around the issues of this thread.
😂And WHO started this whole spelling/grammar derailment?
Oh, of course it was all part of your "plan" huh?
Yeah. That's what it was. 😏
Frieza never destroyed a planet directly, it was a chain reaction blast that occured due to hitting the core of the planet....which IMO isn't really that impressive. Additionally, SS was verifed as to be going FTL when bullrushing Thanos and yet he still managed to react to him. At the sametime, Thanos has fought opponents with legitimate planet wrecking feats on-panel....and in most cases he has walked all over them.
Bottomline line, Frieza has not been stated to move FTL, be shown as a class 100 in terms of strength or even the ki output to destroy a planet in a single blast. Most importantly he has yet to show any evidence of avoiding a TP attack from Thanos or overcoming his force fields....and plz try to use manga scans with "DIRECT EXAMPLES".
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes. But you can't quantify how much. I mean drax can tear out the core of a star but until he started glowing green he could never beat or even contend with thanos.And he was taking lots of power from Odin. Thanos durability is great.
You are just ignoring what has already been shown. A person with a higher power level can generate more power than a person with a weaker power level (common sense). Roshi having a power level of 100 (moon busting) stated that goku was more powerful than him and he also stated that goku kamehameha wave was more powerful than his (moon busting) and goku had a power level of 350.
Now let's use common sense black bolt. If a person have a power level of 350 (over moon busting) and he is able to generate more power than someone with a power level of 300, that mean that no matter how small the gap is, the person with a higher power level can generate far more energy than someone with a weaker power level.
Now if someone with a power level of 100 can destroy a damn moon, what could someone in the thousands do (use your noggin). If someone in the 100s can destroy a moon and I POSTED proof that even though a gap is small power level wise their is still a big advantage... imagine what someone in the millions can do (use your brain). That is why frieza was able to destroy a planet with his finger... because of the significance of his power. That's why frieza was able to split a planet in half while toying around and not even using a percentage of his power.
When you reach the billions... you have people that can scream and destroy planets. Open their mouths and destroy cities. You are REALLY lowballing them and you are ignoring the power level system.
Answer this (and use your brain please, I know its there)... do you think vegeta saiyan saga could generate more power than first form frieza.
Originally posted by Rhiaggo
Frieza never destroyed a planet directly, it was a chain reaction blast that occured due to hitting the core of the planet....which IMO isn't really that impressive. Additionally, SS was verifed as to be going FTL when bullrushing Thanos and yet he still managed to react to him. At the sametime, Thanos has fought opponents with legitimate planet wrecking feats on-panel....and in most cases he has walked all over them.Bottomline line, Frieza has not been stated to move FTL, be shown as a class 100 in terms of strength or even the ki output to destroy a planet in a single blast. Most importantly he has yet to show any evidence of avoiding a TP attack from Thanos or overcoming his force fields....and plz try to use manga scans with "DIRECT EXAMPLES".
Now prove that the gauntlet didn't have anything to do with thanos dodging surfer. Stop using surfer as evidnece, he doesn't fight anywhere close to frieza.
Originally posted by Rhiaggo
Frieza never destroyed a planet directly, it was a chain reaction blast that occured due to hitting the core of the planet....which IMO isn't really that impressive. Additionally, SS was verifed as to be going FTL when bullrushing Thanos and yet he still managed to react to him. At the sametime, Thanos has fought opponents with legitimate planet wrecking feats on-panel....and in most cases he has walked all over them.Bottomline line, Frieza has not been stated to move FTL, be shown as a class 100 in terms of strength or even the ki output to destroy a planet in a single blast. Most importantly he has yet to show any evidence of avoiding a TP attack from Thanos or overcoming his force fields....and plz try to use manga scans with "DIRECT EXAMPLES".
Wrong: Planet Vegeta. 'Nuff said.
Wrong: Even Radditz> FTL reflexes.
Wrong: Kid Goku was a class 100 easily.
You have yet to provide evidence that TP is an effective meathod of negotiating Frieza or that Thanos' shields can repel dozens or hundreds of planet busting attacks in succession.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos tanked many blasts from odin and Tyrant. He's also been upgraded. Someone with planet destroying power can't even make Thanos notice them can you say the same of Frieza ?
Yes... nail was a planet crusher and frieza walked through every blast that he shot (literally)... and ripped his arm off and tanked everything and laughed at him. Vegeta during the saiyan saga was a planet crush and frieza would laugh at his effort. You can team nail, vegeta, goku (during the saiyan saga), piccolo, and gohun (all of them are planet busters)all against frieza and frieza would one shot every last one of them and walk through their attacks.
Originally posted by jinzin
Wrong: Planet Vegeta. 'Nuff said.Wrong: Even Radditz> FTL reflexes.
Wrong: Kid Goku was a class 100 easily.
You have yet to provide evidence that TP is an effective meathod of negotiating Frieza or that Thanos' shields can repel dozens or hundreds of planet busting attacks in succession.
Radditz...FTL?
Evidence for Kid Goku...cause I remember adult Goku having issues with 30 tons?
Frieza has not TP feats, Thanos has pleanty....it isnt that hard to figure out. Also...planet busting shots lol, since when...he couldnt even oneshot nail.
Caver: You're the one who has yet to prove half the things ive asked from you already....like as a example provide evidence that Frieza wont get taged by thanks at close range and that he wont get oneshotted?
Radditz dodged the Piccolo's light of death beam at near point blank range.... the same attack that blew up earth's moon instantly.
Kid Goku was pushing a 30 foot boulder through the damned ground like a plow and punching/throwing people across cities.
DBZ characters were TP users in early DB... again, can you show me Frieza being vulnerable to TP? Can you show me Thanos effectively using it on someone of Frieza's relative skill AND power? AND IN combat?
Frieza never tried to one shot Nail. 😕 He was making sport of nail and looking for answers.
Again the answers you're looking for are completely subjective and questions that can easily be turned around on you. It's not as if evidence is soley Carver's to provide.
Originally posted by Rhiaggo
Radditz...FTL?Evidence for Kid Goku...cause I remember adult Goku having issues with 30 tons?
Frieza has not TP feats, Thanos has pleanty....it isnt that hard to figure out. Also...planet busting shots lol, since when...he couldnt even oneshot nail.
Caver: You're the one who has yet to prove half the things ive asked from you already....like as a example provide evidence that Frieza wont get taged by thanks at close range and that he wont get oneshotted?
How about kid goku moving a 600 ton rock or gpicking up a 1 ton guy and throwing him out of the city.
Look at the 3rd page, I posted speed feats.