Cross Genre Match #21: Frieza vs Thanos

Started by carver985 pages

Originally posted by StyleTime
Definitely. I agree that bias exists, just not vs anime/manga as a whole. Wildstorm characters come to mind. 😖hifty:

As for video games, they get shafted more than anime/manga does imo. Far harder to argue them in cross genre threads as a whole. It doesn't help that most of our video game posters left after the Kefka vs Thor debacle.

Interesting. I'm not sure I'd place him higher during the Frieza saga.

I would place him higher than frieza... he is powerful and extremely versatile. Piccolo is one of those characters that could basically do anything. The only advantage frieza had over him is that he was more powerful, he could generate far more power. Piccolo used his ki kind of like surfer use his power cosmic, without limitations.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I know I just found that pic and the OT is dead at the moment.
lol ok. I like the pic 🙂

Originally posted by Black bolt z
OK i'm done.
That's what I wanted to do aswell but I decided not to 😂

Frieza 6/10.

Originally posted by carver9
You already know the answer to everything that you just said... they slow everything down in dbz for us to see it. The fights are slowed, the blast are slowed, everything is slowed during combat and this has been proven and is a known fact. Everytime the kamehameha blast is shot they slow it because it is a known and famous attack but that doesn't ake away from the fact that it makes it out of orbit instantly.

What the hell? What kind of an excuse is that? That's like me saying Silver Surfer or Superman don't blitz all characters instantly at FTL because the writers want us to see them do stuff. Inconsistency as it's rarely happened.

Why would they have everything going at super speed so that we can't see it? Doesn't make sense but when they take the view away from the fighters, they show us them fighting and blasting at tremendous speeds. I can show you examples of this if you want (since it has happened so much).

They can always show their super speed in combat like this: http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/week01-2000-Superman_V2-152-04.jpg

or like how Frieza dodged Goku's elbow in the scans I posted a while back.

The kamehameha is a light speed attack along with piccolo galack gun.

Thanos has FTL reflexes because he reacted to Ganymede who blitzed Silver Surfer who's had fights at FTL before. What's inconsistency?

Originally posted by StyleTime
Definitely. I agree that bias exists, just not vs anime/manga as a whole. Wildstorm characters come to mind. 😖hifty:

As for video games, they get shafted more than anime/manga does imo. Far harder to argue them in cross genre threads as a whole. It doesn't help that most of our video game posters left after the Kefka vs Thor debacle.

Interesting. I'm not sure I'd place him higher during the Frieza saga.

You're right about that. Man, people argued Daredevil beating Akuma for Christ's sake.

Stop derailing the thread pl0x.

Glad you are back tyrant... give me a few, I'm doing something.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You're right about that. Man, people argued Daredevil beating Akuma for Christ's sake.
isn't akuma almost low herald lol?

Originally posted by Starscream M
isn't akuma almost low herald lol?
Yes he is. I'll pm you since it is derailing.

Lol at pl0x though, I was like "what does that mean"?

"Probably the most irritating way of saying please. Used by internet n00bs as a way to annoy us the hell out of people."

Originally posted by carver9
Glad you are back tyrant... give me a few, I'm doing something.

Alright.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
"Probably the most irritating way of saying please. Used by internet n00bs as a way to annoy us the hell out of people."

Alright.

I read up the entry. I figured it meant that by context clues, but it looked like "plox" or "please" with a kiss. 😘

Originally posted by TheTyrant
What the hell? What kind of an excuse is that? That's like me saying Silver Surfer or Superman don't blitz all characters instantly at FTL because the writers want us to see them do stuff. Inconsistency as it's rarely happened.

They can always show their super speed in combat like this: http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/week01-2000-Superman_V2-152-04.jpg

or like how Frieza dodged Goku's elbow in the scans I posted a while back.

Thanos has FTL reflexes because he reacted to Ganymede who blitzed Silver Surfer who's had fights at FTL before. What's inconsistency?

Ok, again, stop comparing surfer and superman to dbz characters when they don't fight anywhere close to their levels.

What I am saying is that the same blast that we look at that is going slow motion gets out of orbit instantly. Look at the kamehameha wave that goku hit vegeta with during the saiyan saga, they show it taking off in slow motion (slowing down time for us), then once the beam fight is over (goku blast vs vegeta blast) the kamahemaha make it out of orbit instantly (they had no reason to slow it down anymore).

Answer this question, when raditz dodged that beam, why was piccolo in shock (and please don't say anything about the speed of sound since goku was surpassing those speeds as a child).

Why are you using one scan as evidence? Dragonball art/drawing is different, they draw speed lines to show us that the characters are fighting at tremendous speeds. The anime take the speed line away and shows us exactly how they were fighting.

When has surfer ever fought at faster than light and I am referring to reflexes also and please don't say the bill and surfer fight and was surfer fighting at faster than light against thanos?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You're right about that. Man, people argued Daredevil beating Akuma for Christ's sake.

Damn. That's crazy unless Daredevil has gotten some massive upgrades recently.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Damn. That's crazy unless Daredevil has gotten some massive upgrades recently.
He has, but nothing on that level. Not by a long shot.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
They can always show their super speed in combat like this: http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff144/KMCSuperman/week01-2000-Superman_V2-152-04.jpg

or like how Frieza dodged Goku's elbow in the scans I posted a while back.


Superman don't fight at light-speed, period. There's a vast difference in flying to the moon, gathering velocity through acceleration along the way and moving a few feet to get behind your opponent.

I've never come across a instance where Superman has fought at the speed of light.

Whether he travels faster than light or not is also a shaky subject due to the nature of the speed-force. It's essentially varying from author to author.

Originally posted by Astner
Superman don't fight at light-speed, period. There's a vast difference in flying to the moon, gathering velocity through acceleration along the way and moving a few feet to get behind your opponent.

I've never come across a instance where Superman has fought at the speed of light.

Whether he travels faster than light or not is also a shaky subject due to the nature of the speed-force. It's essentially varying from author to author.

I have been saying this since being on this forum. I don't get the nature of his scan anyway, it really didn't prove anything.

Originally posted by Astner
Superman don't fight at light-speed, period. There's a vast difference in flying to the moon, gathering velocity through acceleration along the way and moving a few feet to get behind your opponent.

I've never come across a instance where Superman has fought at the speed of light.

Whether he travels faster than light or not is also a shaky subject due to the nature of the speed-force. It's essentially varying from author to author.

Neither do DBZ characters.Or anything close to it...

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Neither do DBZ characters.Or anything close to it...

Not true.

Goku was stated as faster than lightning as a child back in the Dragon Ball Manga, during IIRC his training with Kami.

Lightning travels up to half the speed of light. And Goku has gotten literally millions of times more powerful since then.

He also has a light speed reaction feat when he moved and put on Roshi's sunglasses before the light from Tien's Solar Flare ever reached his eyes. Also back during Dragonball.

As for Superman? Jesus christ peeps. The guy does insanely complex things in short order. Like building an entire cities in seconds. Fighting at superspeed is an afterthought in comparison.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Not true.

Goku was stated as faster than lightning as a child back in the Dragon Ball Manga, during IIRC his training with Kami.

Lightning travels up to half the speed of light. And Goku has gotten literally millions of times more powerful since then.


I think that was a bit of hyperbole. IIRC it was Mr Popo who claimed he could train Goku to be "as fast as lightning". Doesn't really mean he was literally FTL.