Cross Genre Match #21: Frieza vs Thanos

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Not true.

Goku was stated as faster than lightning as a child back in the Dragon Ball Manga, during IIRC his training with Kami.

Lightning travels up to half the speed of light. And Goku has gotten literally millions of times more powerful since then.

He also has a light speed reaction feat when he moved and put on Roshi's sunglasses before the light from Tien's Solar Flare ever reached his eyes. Also back during Dragonball.

As for Superman? Jesus christ peeps. The guy does insanely complex things in short order. Like building an entire cities in seconds. Fighting at superspeed is an afterthought in comparison.

As for the solar flare thing prove the solar flare goes light speed.And even then did he grab for them after Tien said it?

There are also several times Goku used Instant Transmission because it was the fastest way to get around at "the speed of light". So that should say that perfectly.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
There are also several times Goku used Instant Transmission because it was the fastest way to get around at "the speed of light". So that should say that perfectly.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Neither do DBZ characters.Or anything close to it...

Why don't they when they have easily outpaced objects going faster than light.

As for the lightning thing, its true, goku was stated during db that he would be trained to move faster than lightning and at one point they had goku outpacing lightning (when popo put the crown on goku head that attract lightning.).

Originally posted by carver9
Why don't they when they have easily outpaced objects going faster than light.

As for the lightning thing, its true, goku was stated during db that he would be trained to move faster than lightning and at one point they had goku outpacing lightning (when popo put the crown on goku head that attract lightning.).

Originally posted by Black bolt z
They screwed up the IT. It is supposed to be light speed travel but they changed it to actual teleportation between dimensions.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Manga or Anime?

In the ceel saga(and in magna I think) he teleported Cell, who was about to explode, to king kai's planet in another dimension.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
There are also several times Goku used Instant Transmission because it was the fastest way to get around at "the speed of light". So that should say that perfectly.

You got it all wrong buddy. Instant transmission is exactly what the name of it is "instantaneous movement". That is why goku is able to travel millions of light years instantly.

You all should know these things when debating about dbz. The light speed quote that goku said was a american dub.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Anime.

In the ceel saga(and in magna I think) he teleported Cell, who was about to explode, to king kai's planet in another dimension.

Its not light speed, that was an american dub that you all are using. Stop talking about it.

Originally posted by carver9
Its not light speed, that was an american dub that you all are using. Stop talking about it.

I mean Goku says it only allows him to go light speed.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
They have never done this.

How do you know? You know next to nothing about dbz. I have proven this a long time ago that you don't know what you are talking about.

Originally posted by carver9
How do you know? You know next to nothing about dbz. I have proven this a long time ago that you don't know what you are talking about.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hey kids! NemeBro here for an episode of "Spot the Fallacy!"

Can any of you spot the fallacy in Carver's post?

Jimmy: "Mr. NemeBro, is it an Ad Hominem fallacy?"

That's right Jimmy! It IS an Ad Hominem fallacy!

An Ad Hominem fallacy can best be described as "an argument against the man, not the point," notice how Carver does not really address Creshosk's point at all, merely claiming he is wrong because he hates DBZ.

While this may be true, it however does not invalidate Creshosk's point at all, all arguments should be valued based on the posts points themselves, not the beliefs of the poster.

Well kids, that's all the time we have for today. Tune in next time for another "Spot the Fallacy!"

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Then show us a japanese scan or japanese anime translation showings us its actual teleportation.

I mean Goku says it only allows him to go light speed.

If you read the manga you would know this. Goku never said anything about it being light speed "in the manga" he said instantaneous movement.

Do not argue with me about dbz because you "will" lose.

Originally posted by carver9
If you read the manga you would know this. Goku never said anything about it being light speed "in the manga" he said instantaneous movement.

Do not argue with me about dbz because you "will" lose.

And no I haven't read the magna. So please post a scan or concede.

Originally posted by carver9
If you read the manga you would know this. Goku never said anything about it being light speed "in the manga" he said instantaneous movement.

Do not argue with me about dbz because you "will" lose.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
This applies

Lol... me and nemebro have been going at it for years... why quote him?

Originally posted by carver9
You got it all wrong buddy. Instant transmission is exactly what the name of it is "instantaneous movement". That is why goku is able to travel millions of light years instantly.

You all should know these things when debating about dbz. The light speed quote that goku said was a american dub.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... me and nemebro have been going at it for years... why quote him?

Instant Transmission is teleportation. Goku's used it as such several times in the cartoon. He even pinpoints the kai of someone he's going to teleport to before performing it. To say it's just light speed travel is ludicrous given it's actual canonical applications.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Instant Transmission is teleportation. Goku's used it as such several times in the cartoon. He even pinpoints the kai of someone he's going to teleport to before performing it. To say it's just light speed travel is ludicrous given it's actual canonical applications.