Originally posted by Black bolt z
Ummm...when did I claim their blasts were invisible?Except they never dodged invisible blasts. And invisible still doesn't mean near FTL 😬
What invisible blast?
You saide that piccolo blast wasn't light speed because we seen it so I'm guess in order for piccolo blast to be light speed it has to be invisible so show me a invisible blast.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Even if he was 100,000 times faster then kid goku's speed he still wouldn't be going light speed...
The kamehameha that hit cell (from goku) made it out of orbit instantly. The kamehameha that hit vegeta made it out of orbit instantly. The only reason goku got these waves in on his target was due to teleporting or over powering their blast. Sometimes they slow everything sown so that we can see what goes on but that doesn't take away from the fact that these blast made it out of orbit instantly. During the beginning of dragonball, people have been countering these blast or basically out pacing them.
Originally posted by Tha C-Masterto play devil's advocate, i don't think there is a statement that says superman fights at light speed either...yet ppl always claim he can
Ok, let's get up to pace.What are the arguments of them constantly fighting FTL? Is there a statement at least?
I want to know so I can find it.
Originally posted by carver9facepalm
The kamehameha that hit cell (from goku) made it out of orbit instantly. The kamehameha that hit vegeta made it out of orbit instantly. The only reason goku got these waves in on his target was due to teleporting or over powering their blast. Sometimes they slow everything sown so that we can see what goes on but that doesn't take away from the fact that these blast made it out of orbit instantly. During the beginning of dragonball, people have been countering these blast or basically out pacing them.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
he was shocked because raditz was super fast by his standards.
Doesn't make sense since, well, goku dodged numerous of his blast during dragonball and then we have goku and piccolo teaming up on raditz and they couldn't even land a lick. Piccolo knew he was much faster than him so again, why was he so shocked that raditz dodged the blast.
Originally posted by Starscream MSuperman has been shown to coordinate and react on the nanosecond or greater.
to play devil's advocate, i don't think there is a statement that says superman fights at light speed either...yet ppl always claim he can
I was just seeing if there was something I could use to find and bring up the image for the sake of the debate.
Originally posted by carver9So you are assuming because they made it out of orbit "instantly" they are lightspeed attacks? You may not need more proof but we do 😬
The kamehameha that hit cell (from goku) made it out of orbit instantly. The kamehameha that hit vegeta made it out of orbit instantly. The only reason goku got these waves in on his target was due to teleporting or over powering their blast. Sometimes they slow everything sown so that we can see what goes on but that doesn't take away from the fact that these blast made it out of orbit instantly. During the beginning of dragonball, people have been countering these blast or basically out pacing them.
Originally posted by carver9😂
The kamehameha that hit cell (from goku) made it out of orbit instantly. The kamehameha that hit vegeta made it out of orbit instantly. The only reason goku got these waves in on his target was due to teleporting or over powering their blast. Sometimes they slow everything sown so that we can see what goes on but that doesn't take away from the fact that these blast made it out of orbit instantly. During the beginning of dragonball, people have been countering these blast or basically out pacing them.
That still doesn't make it near light speed.