Cross Genre Match #21: Frieza vs Thanos

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The problem Carver is that you may as well be speaking a different language, since you have this intractable assessment of Frieza's power that you won't change no matter how many times you fail to support it.

I can't speak for everyone obviously, but I think most of us don't put Frieza above Superman and his peers. This fight could basically be simplified to the KMC formula, Thanos > a herald.

With carver9, it's more like Chiaotzu > a herald. 😛

I'll go ahead and say Thanos wins, because DBZ and all that Goku stuff is gay n shit 🙂

Originally posted by StyleTime
It's interesting you'd adopt this view. You've been taking Frieza at his absolute highest this whole time, and trying to go with lower depictions of Thanos. For example, the average blast from Frieza isn't anything even reminiscent of a planet destroying blast.

Is it really any different than Frieza surviving the planet exploding but being hurt by far less?

Frieza couldn't do shit to Goku at that point. It wasn't really a question of durability.

That's the thing... it was the norm for frieza. What standard blast hurt frieza while he was at his prime. the only thing that really harmed him at all was the spirit bomb which was planetary, he was worried about goku 20 times kayoken which was also above planetary, and I really don't know if namek explosion did anything to him since he was knocked out way before then.

I know he couldn't do anything and if that fight didn't prove that goku was more durable, I don't know what does. Goku took as much punishment as frieza and came out on top.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Carver,

You keep on mentioning that Frieza fights FTL... please give me ANY narration that backs up this claim.

How on God's green earth do you figure he can match Thanos's power output both blasting power and punching power? We've seen Thanos kill Surfer in a few punches. We've seen Thanos one shot kill Adam Warlock, Drax & Phyla with ease. We've seen him match the In Betweener blasts to free him from his prison. We've seen Thanos blast Galactus miles with one shot.. Thor using a God-blast didn't even knock him off his feet. Do you honestly see Frieza stand up to Odin as Thanos did... I don't even see that being close to true, and see nothing you have provided that comes close to giving Frieza the victory

Originally posted by StyleTime
He's changed on some issues, but I do agree with you.

I can't speak for everyone obviously, but I think most of us don't put Frieza above Superman and his peers. This fight could basically be simplified to the KMC formula, Thanos > a herald.

With carver9, it's more like Chiaotzu > a herald. 😛

Lol... as long as you know the truth and I never said that frieza would walk through thanos punches.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

I already told you that thanos durability would be the hard part to get past.

He knocked galactus back with concussive force, did that hurt galactus? What type of damage did it cause to galactus? If frieza was in thanos shoes, what makes you believe he couldnt knock galactus back a couple of miles?

Can thanos shoot planetary level blast with his finger using 0.025% of his power. Can thanos split a planet in half twice the size of earth with 2 fingers using only 1% of his power? Can thanos blow up a continent using 1% of his power?

One sotting drax? Drax passed out from a planetoid exploding on him... frieza has been tanking stuff like that during his weakest. How durable is warlock? Can warlock survive a blast that more powerful than planetary?

The speed shouldn't even be debated since thanos isn't a light speed character.

I don't get your thor comment.

YOu still haven't proven Frieza is a lightspeed character though 😐

Originally posted by iceman24567
YOu still haven't proven Frieza is a lightspeed character though 😐

I can easily prove that...give me a couple of hours, at work.

^ No you can't or you would have done so already 😐

lol

Originally posted by iceman24567
^ No you can't or you would have done so already 😐

Look at majority, if not, ALL of my post. Majority of it is about frieza power and durability... I had plans on moving to his speed but you all never gave me that chance to bring it up. Like I said, that part would be as easy as daisys. Give ne a couple of hours.

Whatever you say daddyo

Originally posted by -Pr-
black holes in comics are as they are in reality, unless stated otherwise.

Another example would be breaching c, what kinetic energy would Superman have if he flied past c if the kinetic energy at c for a arbitrary mass would be infinite? It's a asymptotical relation not definable past c.

It would be like trying to scientifically estimate the energy it would take to extract the soul of a living being.

Even in fiction there are divided opinions as Dr. Strange, from marvel, has to incant long spells to accomplish this feat where as Human-realm Pain, from Naruto, could rip it out at physical contact. Yet no one would argue that Pain somehow surpasses Dr. Strange in power.

Originally posted by Astner
Well theoretically it would be impossible to contain a black hole within your hands past the event horizon which Superman clearly did. It would be unquantifiable as there's no established way of analyzing it that would hold consistent.

Another example would be breaching c, what kinetic energy would Superman have if he flied past c if the kinetic energy at c for a arbitrary mass would be infinite? It's a asymptotical relation not definable past c.

The lack of a theorethical model to deal with a phenomena doesn't invalidate it though. It could also be explained through alternate reality models, even if as you say it would be inconsistent.

Originally posted by Astner
It would be like trying to scientifically estimate the energy it would take to extract the soul of a living being.

Even in fiction there are divided opinions as Dr. Strange, from marvel, has to incant long spells to accomplish this feat where as Human-realm Pain, from Naruto, could rip it out at physical contact. Yet no one would argue that Pain somehow surpasses Dr. Strange in power.

This in the other hand is a hard truth of fiction, universes have different laws.

It's still much easier to debate with the first two examples because they're often used with values analog to real life -the physical strain that Superman has when performing certain feats-.

Carver... why do you keep on talking about planet level this and planet level that all the time. You act like Warlock had to tank a planetary level explosion in orfer to prove Frieza could or couldn't hurt Warlock as well. As far as I know, Warlock has never tanked such a blast or been exposed to such a blast, yet absent of evidence isn't evidence. We've seen Warlock take various blows from various people and NEVER ONCE besides Thanos was he one shot killed. Same with Phyla. Same with drax..Sure Drax passed out after a planet exploded but had also just prior been locking up with Thanos obviously effecting his health and stamina. However, Drax himself has taken multiple multiple shots from certified class 100's and not been KO'd let alone KILLED IN ONE SHOT. Please show me Frieza one shot killling anybody on the level of Warlock,Drax or Phyla please.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Carver... why do you keep on talking about planet level this and planet level that all the time. You act like Warlock had to tank a planetary level explosion in orfer to prove Frieza could or couldn't hurt Warlock as well. As far as I know, Warlock has never tanked such a blast or been exposed to such a blast, yet absent of evidence isn't evidence. We've seen Warlock take various blows from various people and NEVER ONCE besides Thanos was he one shot killed. Same with Phyla. Same with drax..Sure Drax passed out after a planet exploded but had also just prior been locking up with Thanos obviously effecting his health and stamina. However, Drax himself has taken multiple multiple shots from certified class 100's and not been KO'd let alone KILLED IN ONE SHOT. Please show me Frieza one shot killling anybody on the level of Warlock,Drax or Phyla please.

And Carver still has to show the DD cutting through something as hard as adamantium.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Carver... why do you keep on talking about planet level this and planet level that all the time. You act like Warlock had to tank a planetary level explosion in orfer to prove Frieza could or couldn't hurt Warlock as well. As far as I know, Warlock has never tanked such a blast or been exposed to such a blast, yet absent of evidence isn't evidence. We've seen Warlock take various blows from various people and NEVER ONCE besides Thanos was he one shot killed. Same with Phyla. Same with drax..Sure Drax passed out after a planet exploded but had also just prior been locking up with Thanos obviously effecting his health and stamina. However, Drax himself has taken multiple multiple shots from certified class 100's and not been KO'd let alone KILLED IN ONE SHOT. Please show me Frieza one shot killling anybody on the level of Warlock,Drax or Phyla please.

Warlock's shields did tank a supernova, methinks Thanos would pass through them like butter.

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Originally posted by Black bolt z
He will probably bring up Freiza one shotting Krillian 😂

And Carver still has to show the DD cutting through something as hard as adamantium.

First thing, you need to stop debating about anything regarding any topic about dbz because you know next to nothing about it and you have proven this on NUMEROUS of occassions. The only thing you do is troll every thread. Leave this to the big boys, let me and kurupt hand this because I don't have to prove anything about a blast that can cut through atoms as easily as we can rip paper. Look at or reread dbz again (you never read or seen it from the get go)... you will learn a lil sum sum.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Carver... why do you keep on talking about planet level this and planet level that all the time. You act like Warlock had to tank a planetary level explosion in orfer to prove Frieza could or couldn't hurt Warlock as well. As far as I know, Warlock has never tanked such a blast or been exposed to such a blast, yet absent of evidence isn't evidence. We've seen Warlock take various blows from various people and NEVER ONCE besides Thanos was he one shot killed. Same with Phyla. Same with drax..Sure Drax passed out after a planet exploded but had also just prior been locking up with Thanos obviously effecting his health and stamina. However, Drax himself has taken multiple multiple shots from certified class 100's and not been KO'd let alone KILLED IN ONE SHOT. Please show me Frieza one shot killling anybody on the level of Warlock,Drax or Phyla please.

One shotting high tier beings is a specialty in dbz. Example: during vegeta arrival on planet earth he had enough power at his disposal to destroy planets... he was a high class 100 with high end durability. Hell, vegeta during his weakest was hit by a planetary blast that almost sent him out of orbit.

With all that said, months passed and vegeta became more powerful than he was before... hell, he became at least twice as powerful and he got schooled by frieza and the sad thing he had help. Then frieza fought someone that was FAR more powerful tha planetary level vegeta that was on earth and frieza tanked everything that he dished off at him and then ripped his arms off while laughing.