Just a bullet point in my post to Cresh I felt is important.... You can't automatically discount Power Level's..... Power Levels are certainly a much more quantifiable measure of power and ability than is accredited to most comic book characters.
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That's just it. We're not throwing out random numbers here, we're giving very precise increases in the percentage of his power level.
He was able to kill Vegeta with one finger in form 1: fact.
He was less than 1 percent in strength when he did it: fact.
He had more than 100 percent more strength to contribute in any given effort on his part after that: fact.
Every feat any DBZ character has strictly relating to general strength, durability, speed, and power (barring broken abilities unique to a select few characters) before Frieza entered his forth form, is up for grabs for supporters to not only use, but to multiply the effectiveness of that feat by "at the least" 100 percent being VERY disengenous to Frieza: fact.
How you can sit there and tell me that PL's don't contribute anything to a DBZ thread or have no meaning here is entirely beyond me... In order to do that you have to completely ignore how DBZ works, or play Devil's advocate to an extremist degree which would undermine your credability.
Originally posted by carver9If you can find some statement thats not from the villian then yes it would be more helpful. Like if king kai said it or something. but AFAIK the closest thing to that is kid buu with the 10 times thing.
A couple of peeps disagree with you on this. I'm providing evidence, its you all that are not debating.Oh yes I can.
What if I show you cell shooting a blast that was stated as having enough power to shed a 100 planets... would that help?