Heralds vs Odin

Started by TheLordofMurder29 pages

Quan is an idiot...

Odin crushes the heralds; they all get one shotted...

Common Sense...

And heaven forbid Odin doesnt fight them like a brick with ranged magical attacks and fights deviously instead; there are TONS of creative ways Odin could win this fight against them that they would have no prayer of combatting...

He could make his body intangible and attack each of them spiritually; none of them would have a defense to this and all would go down every single time...

Odin 10/10....FATALITY!!

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Far less has defeated odin.

you've said that a couple times--what examples are you citing to back this up? and far less than what, the combined heralds power?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Quan is an idiot...

Odin crushes the heralds; they all get one shotted...

Common Sense...

Far greater powers have been unable to oneshot Surfer since his upgrade.

Originally posted by leonidas
you've said that a couple times--what examples are you citing to back this up? and far less than what, the combined heralds power?
Ants. Far less than the combined power from this group.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Far greater powers have been unable to oneshot Surfer since his upgrade.

'far greater'? you mean T and A i presume? what proof do you have that either is 'far greater' in power than odin? what feats prove this to you?

Ants. Far less than the combined power from this group.

😂

personally, i think what you've done in this thread is great, so all right quan, i'll play along... any ants in particular?

Originally posted by leonidas
'far greater'? you mean T and A i presume? what proof do you have that either is 'far greater' in power than odin? what feats prove this to you?

😂

personally, i think what you've done in this thread is great, so all right quan, i'll play along... any ants in particular?

Them defeating Galactus.

The ants that defeated odin and his entire army minus Thor in Thor's comic. They were selling Odin at a slave auction. it wasn't just Odin which is the bad thing it was all of asgard basically.

Originally posted by quanchi112
@Witchey

The death god hela has already been considered a rival to Odin early on.

Rivals?


Mar-vell oneshotting Magus to death is impressive and of course he sin't going to kill every hero he faces off against. how often does that happen anyways ? You seem alien to how comics are usually written most of the times heroes survive despite the odds, lol.

Magus is a hero? How many times have a character been beaten up or killed to make the main event bad guy look good? Onslaught/Juggernaut, Nekron/AM, or hey Conquest!

Two years before TI and written by the same guys. Ultron must be a badass since he one-shot killed someone. OMG!! LOLZ


Surfer beat the snot out of him.

Lol, you mean when Surfer's board came from behind Bill and hit him, giving Surfer time to follow up? Cheapshot. Bill's starship dust Surfer after that. I guess Bill wins if we're talking counting each of their cheapshots.

And prior to that, who's the one that Bill just block at energy attack from and walloped into that ship? Surfer got his as whoop.


LOL also at the hypocrisy. You stated knocking someone back isn't the same as really hurting him when Thanos knocked back Galactus but when we see Surfer far less affected and the outcome never in doubt you act like these blasts really phased him. LOL.

Lol, Surfer getting a cheapshot from behind by his board that gave him a chance to recover means Surfer was dominating Bill? Oh the hypocrisy. This is just like you ignoring Thanos using his force block tech weapon on Odin then cry when Odin retaliated with Gungnir. Quanch a hypocrite and poor debator? Oh it's nothing new.


LOL at the Black Panther posting it didn't aid BrB or Ravenous or even T and A.

Because Surfer got bashed away and his attack absorbed twice by Bill until his board hit Bill from behind. Bill was handling Surfer just fine.
lol at Surfer's second beam absorbed by Stormbreaker.


How often does Odin put people in these holds anyways ? Not too often at all. Again, the ants aren't anywhere near as powerful as this team. My point stands.

How often does Odin own people with his hand to hand skills? Like he would have a problem maneuvering around Surfer or any of these heralds or just beat them straight up.


Two beings whose power dwarf Odin's the outcome would be the same. I have no idea what your point even is. We've seen Odin and two skyfather level beings fail to even make arishem notice them and while in this state the Surfer survived a feat that would have taken even Galactus given enough time. Incredible.

Quanchi making stuff up? Incredible. Surfer is lying wounded while these two walk away to leave him to die but Surfer is going to win because of this instance?


It's affecting every plane of reality. Two hammers so by your logic these hammers are more powerful than Celestials since they have never done so. Bad logic ftl.

You pretty stupid by this point. That's not the same as fighting on every plane of existence. The Celestials have fought on every planes of existence; Thor hasn't. Stop embarrassing yourself.


It was a joke aimed at a writer but marvel has never recognized it as canon for Thanos. Keep dreaming.

A lot of things are jokes in books but it doesn't make it not canon. Remember the face that beat Thanos.


Team does win as an army of ants beat Odin along with an army of his own.

Lol.


Wasn't that after he defeated him not prior to ?

No, Annihilus attacked Odin first then Odin bfr Annihilus in one-shot out of Asgard, sparing Annihilus' life.


Odin doesn't bfr opponents it's not in character for him to do so. his honor on the battlefield and pride will prevent such a thing. I mean why didn't he bfr Surfer when he fought him the first time on panel, hmmm?

If you want to talk about in character, Odin would bfr Surfer because he actually knows Surfer is a good being. The rest of the heralds would get stomp if Odin didn't bfr them as well. The guy is merciful most of the time and would do exactly. In a fight, Odin is a skilled fighter. BFR isn't cowardly. If that's the case, then so is imprison and Thanos twice used his force block to try and end fights. Thanos is a coward then.


This is noob Surfer and prior to his upgrade thus irrelevant. LOL at posting loeb scans of a noob surfer. LOL.

WTF? Just because you bought Annihilation after 2008, it doesn't mean you can say this was classic Surfer. Are you high? Annihilation came out in 2006 while this came out in 2008. Also why are you laughing at Loeb when you practically are considered the KMC Loeb.

And it's not like breaking Surfer's board is new. New Surfer isn't that different from old Surfer.


Team wins, they overwhelm him.

Hahaha. Just go away. Best debator on this board?! Some logic.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Rivals?

Magus is a hero? How many times have a character been beaten up or killed to make the main event bad guy look good? Onslaught/Juggernaut, Nekron/AM, or hey Conquest!

Two years before TI and written by the same guys. Ultron must be a badass since he one-shot killed someone. OMG!! LOLZ

Lol, you mean when Surfer's board came from behind Bill and hit him, giving Surfer time to follow up? Cheapshot. Bill's starship dust Surfer after that. I guess Bill wins if we're talking counting each of their cheapshots.

And prior to that, who's the one that Bill just block at energy attack from and walloped into that ship? Surfer got his as whoop.

Lol, Surfer getting a cheapshot from behind by his board that gave him a chance to recover means Surfer was dominating Bill? Oh the hypocrisy. This is just like you ignoring Thanos using his force block tech weapon on Odin then cry when Odin retaliated with Gungnir. Quanch a hypocrite and poor debator? Oh it's nothing new.

Because Surfer got bashed away and his attack absorbed twice by Bill until his board hit Bill from behind. Bill was handling Surfer just fine.
lol at Surfer's second beam absorbed by Stormbreaker.

How often does Odin own people with his hand to hand skills? Like he would have a problem maneuvering around Surfer or any of these heralds or just beat them straight up.

I sai dearly on when Hela wanted Odin then went after Thor Odin was powerless in this regard. Since then though Odin seems to be higher than she is rightfully so.

I never said Magus was a hero. Magus was a hero hence warlock though fyi. You seem to literally misinterpret every point I make so it wouldn't surprise me if you knew who Magus was or not.

So we ignore when the bad guys look uber just because you say so ? LOL, this has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.

Ultron didn't oneshot kill someone the level of Magus. LOL at you thinking so.

So it's a cheapshot using his board after Bill already started the fight in the first place ? Do you know what cheapshot even means ? Surfer beat him while holding back with his fists after Bill started the fight with an unprovoked attack. That's an awesome feat since he's by most counts a peer to Thor. Wow, upgrade baby.

Surfer didn't get his ass kicked by any means.

I never said it cheap Odin brought out gungir I only said he relied on it to gain a very slight advantage. I am no hypocrite for stating a mere fact. LOL.

No, other showing has had Surfer manhandled in the same regard by BP most would consider it bad writing but whatever you want to get desperate fine by me. Like I said though no one else has benefited from such a tactic and he's face far greater warriors than BP in Beta Ray Bill, Ravenous, Nova, and the Hulk so just relax with it it's a moot point if anything.

What's so bad about his hammer absorbing his blast ? is that a bad thing ? Most attacks get absorbed by the hammer so I hardly see what that even alludes to. If anything it proves Odin is always going to be susceptible to a board attack since he's going to be literally all over the place with one eye. Thanks for arguing for my side.

So one time ? That it ? Like I said hardly often so thanks for proving my point. 🙂

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Quanchi making stuff up? Incredible. Surfer is lying wounded while these two walk away to leave him to die but Surfer is going to win because of this instance?

You pretty stupid by this point. That's not the same as fighting on every plane of existence. The Celestials have fought on every planes of existence; Thor hasn't. Stop embarrassing yourself.

A lot of things are jokes in books but it doesn't make it not canon. Remember the face that beat Thanos.

Lol.

No, Annihilus attacked Odin first then Odin bfr Annihilus in one-shot out of Asgard, sparing Annihilus' life.

If you want to talk about in character, Odin would bfr Surfer because he actually knows Surfer is a good being. The rest of the heralds would get stomp if Odin didn't bfr them as well. The guy is merciful most of the time and would do exactly. In a fight, Odin is a skilled fighter. BFR isn't cowardly. If that's the case, then so is imprison and Thanos twice used his force block to try and end fights. Thanos is a coward then.

WTF? Just because you bought Annihilation after 2008, it doesn't mean you can say this was classic Surfer. Are you high? Annihilation came out in 2006 while this came out in 2008. Also why are you laughing at Loeb when you practically are considered the KMC Loeb.

And it's not like breaking Surfer's board is new. New Surfer isn't that different from old Surfer.

Hahaha. Just go away. Best debator on this board?! Some logic.

Surfer did win due to them leaving him when he was near death. He still survived the incredible feat Gaalctus himself called, inconceivable. Kudos to Surfer to this proves he can tank multiple attacks and still perform a feat that would overwhelm Galactus himself eventually.

When have the Celestials fought on every plane of existence since you are so obsessed with hyperbole ? Is your next point Odin wins because he's omnipotent ? LOL. Thor's hammer affected every plane of reality which is pretty impressive me thinks since he's just top tier. LOL.

She beat a clone or something not the real deal that marvel recognizes anyways. 🙂

Odin defeated him then bfr'd him. LOL, one instance isn't proving something is in character since we also have a team invading asgard with Odin not bfring anyone. LOL.

Yes, I want to talk about in character and he already fought the Surfer on panel and didn't bfr him cuz he's a good guy. I mean you seem to just make things up. I go by on panel here. Surfer attacked in a group Odin in asgard and he bfr'd no one.

Forceblock isn't bfr. Wow. I guess you don't even know what bfr even means. LOL.

I know the loeb showing vcame after but it was right after he got his powers so long before the events of annihilation. I know the dates of the comics trick you but I can easily follow along unlike yourself.

Classic Surfer isn't as powerful or as durable as current Surfer thus irrelevant and Mar-vell did far more than just break his board since he stormed onto the scene. LOL.

I have more than backed up my case. Team wins. Odin gets hit with the board while he is busy attacking either Surfer or another party member. You yourself posted the proof and since Odin only has one eye he's in for a beatdown.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
How often does Odin own people with his hand to hand skills? Like he would have a problem maneuvering around Surfer or any of these heralds or just beat them straight up.

😱 Odin showing he's a master of Asgardian-Fu.I give a sincere 👆
to that scan.Odin would own these Heralds.Skyfather level beings>>>>>>>>>>>Herald level beings after all.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer did win due to them leaving him when he was near death. He still survived the incredible feat Gaalctus himself called, inconceivable. Kudos to Surfer to this proves he can tank multiple attacks and still perform a feat that would overwhelm Galactus himself eventually.

In other words you have nothing to add because they walked away from the fight. Surfer doesn't have the Crunch's power here. Surfer never harmed them by himself. Odin owns this *** on a board.


When have the Celestials fought on every plane of existence since you are so obsessed with hyperbole ? Is your next point Odin wins because he's omnipotent ? LOL. Thor's hammer affected every plane of reality which is pretty impressive me thinks since he's just top tier. LOL.

Go read Thanos Imperative and Infinity Gauntlet for your answers.


She beat a clone or something not the real deal that marvel recognizes anyways. 🙂

Nope, the real deal according to the Watcher.


Odin defeated him then bfr'd him. LOL, one instance isn't proving something is in character since we also have a team invading asgard with Odin not bfring anyone. LOL.

You asked for proof and I gave it to you. Stop whining because Odin bfr Surfer easily.


Yes, I want to talk about in character and he already fought the Surfer on panel and didn't bfr him cuz he's a good guy. I mean you seem to just make things up. I go by on panel here. Surfer attacked in a group Odin in asgard and he bfr'd no one.

Yes, in character Surfer did not have the power to beat the Proemial Gods. The Crunch isn't his power so what's he going to channel to defeat Odin?

Look, they halted their attack and left him. He was saved by Galactus in the end. You're logic is the worse and you know it too.


Forceblock isn't bfr. Wow. I guess you don't even know what bfr even means. LOL.

Wow, I guess you didn't know the force block is meant to imprison a foe to stop them from fighting. A cowards way for Thanos to halt Thor's rampage, which failed on Odin. If Thanos can use that tactic, Odin can use similar tactic to win. Otherwise, Thanos is as much a coward for imprisoning Thor and Odin rather fight them head on. You're logic is laughable Quancheese.


I know the loeb showing vcame after but it was right after he got his powers so long before the events of annihilation. I know the dates of the comics trick you but I can easily follow along unlike yourself.

Lol at your little attempt at any kind of a come back. Hello KMC Loeb, how are you today?


Classic Surfer isn't as powerful or as durable as current Surfer thus irrelevant and Mar-vell did far more than just break his board since he stormed onto the scene. LOL.

He broke the board. Oh, and how is Mar-Vell relevant to Surfer winning this again when Surfer didn't do anything to Mar-Vell?


I have more than backed up my case. Team wins. Odin gets hit with the board while he is busy attacking either Surfer or another party member. You yourself posted the proof and since Odin only has one eye he's in for a beatdown.

Odin destroys Surfer's board. Surfer stands around looking dumb. Team attacks Odin all to be one-shotted like classic Surfer. Hahahaha. Odin has one eye and therefore he's getting a beatdown. How dumb can you get? Best debator? Lol, go away and hide in under your bridge.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I sai dearly on when Hela wanted Odin then went after Thor Odin was powerless in this regard. Since then though Odin seems to be higher than she is rightfully so.

Odin is more powerful then her. In a confrontation, Odin beat her. The end.


I never said Magus was a hero. Magus was a hero hence warlock though fyi. You seem to literally misinterpret every point I make so it wouldn't surprise me if you knew who Magus was or not.

So we ignore when the bad guys look uber just because you say so ? LOL, this has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.

Ultron didn't oneshot kill someone the level of Magus. LOL at you thinking so.

Magus was a hero through Warlock? WTF and you want to tell me I don't know who Magus is? Just the guy who murdered a number of UCT planets to open up a rift. Hero? That guy?

Ultron one-shot another character to look badass. Same rehash crap by DnA when they put Mar-Vell in Ultron's place. More powerful? Magus already detonated those faith worlds, the source of his power. Not much of a feat killing a Magus that lost his followers.


So it's a cheapshot using his board after Bill already started the fight in the first place ? Do you know what cheapshot even means ? Surfer beat him while holding back with his fists after Bill started the fight with an unprovoked attack. That's an awesome feat since he's by most counts a peer to Thor. Wow, upgrade baby.

Yeah, the board hitting him from behind. They went straight for one another and Bill blocked Surfer's attacks then knocked him away no problem. Then absorbed Surfer's attack again when the board came from behind. You argument has no weight since Surfer was only able to capitalize after that shot from behind. Even then, Bill says to Skuttlebutt that her attack was not noble considering they were in the middle of parlaying, meaning that fight wasn't even over.


Surfer didn't get his ass kicked by any means.

Surfer comes blasting at Bill; Bill blocks. Surfer charges.

Bill halts Surfers blitz, knocking Surfer away.

Surfer blast him again only to be block by Bill. Board hits Bill from behind and Surfer capitalizes on that. Surfer got worked there. Surfer was doing as much good as Stardust when the fight began. That cheapshot from behind gave Surfer time to fight back. Even then that fight didn't conclude.


I never said it cheap Odin brought out gungir I only said he relied on it to gain a very slight advantage. I am no hypocrite for stating a mere fact. LOL.

You are a hypocrite seeing as you ignore Thanos using his force block to give himself an advantage but want to play up Gungnir. Poor Thanos thinking he was fighting WM Thor when he was actually fighting the pimp of skyfathers.


No, other showing has had Surfer manhandled in the same regard by BP most would consider it bad writing but whatever you want to get desperate fine by me. Like I said though no one else has benefited from such a tactic and he's face far greater warriors than BP in Beta Ray Bill, Ravenous, Nova, and the Hulk so just relax with it it's a moot point if anything.

This is funny because you want to bring up that Ant showing.

He didn't out fight Bill. His board hit Bill from behind. Bill outfought Surfer. Want to see those scans again? There right above.
Ravenous? He over powered Ravenous, not beat him hand to hand.
Nova? He over powered Nova. In fact, Nova outfought Surfer until unleashed his power. Did you read their fight? lol
Hulk? Hulk's a fighter on the level of Odin? WTFGOH with this Pak nonsense.

Odin actually has fighting skills.


What's so bad about his hammer absorbing his blast ? is that a bad thing ? Most attacks get absorbed by the hammer so I hardly see what that even alludes to. If anything it proves Odin is always going to be susceptible to a board attack since he's going to be literally all over the place with one eye. Thanks for arguing for my side.

So how you think Surfer's board can harm Odin? Odin is several magnitudes above Bill and Surfer. The board is going to harm Odin?! Yeah, you need to take this logic as where because it's not logic, just delusions. Odin blows up Surfer's board and sends him hurling into another time. Then he pisses on all the heralds.


So one time ? That it ? Like I said hardly often so thanks for proving my point. 🙂

Wait, hold up. You have a point that's relevant? No waits, it's just more deluded b.s. again. Some debater you are. Surfer is going throw his board at Odin to win this.

Surfer can win this if Odin beats him to near death and then decides to leave and the Crunch is nearby. 🙄

OMG Quan got PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
And heaven forbid Odin doesnt fight them like a brick with ranged magical attacks and fights deviously instead; there are TONS of creative ways Odin could win this fight against them that they would have no prayer of combatting...

He could make his body intangible and attack each of them spiritually; none of them would have a defense to this and all would go down every single time...

Odin 10/10....FATALITY!!

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Tell me Quan, how would the heralds handle Odin coming at them from this angle?

😂

They would be annihilated utterly and you know it...

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
OMG Quan got PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Exactly like you do when you try and debate Thanos against me or anyone else 💃

Originally posted by quanchi112
Them defeating Galactus.

The ants that defeated odin and his entire army minus Thor in Thor's comic. They were selling Odin at a slave auction. it wasn't just Odin which is the bad thing it was all of asgard basically.

so, who do you think has the better on-panel feats, galactus or odin? discount the black arc because galactus was actually manipulated by .... a celestial.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just don't want to answer questions that would derail the thread. I feel pre upgraded Thanos beats both Surfer and Odin anyways.

Haha. Like I asked, how does current Thanos beat Surfer?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Shields were mentioned in that instance and we saw them weakening with each punch. That's entirely different than in this instance. You can pretend he had a shield up because you hate that he easily tanked his first blast but that's on you. You need to prove he had shields up not ask me to disprove your claim. This is debating 101. LOL.

I don’t have to prove anything further. You’re argument was that because we didn’t see shields the same way we did under a different artist in a previous issue, they weren’t there. I just pointed you towards a scene where shields were portrayed as invisible. I.e. just because they aren’t visibly colored, that doesn’t mean they aren’t there. This on top of the fact that the initial blast is bending around Thanos as if blocked by something and Thanos used shields previously in the arc, logic dictates that Thanos was using shields. Of course, this is you I’m debating with.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree Thanos was slightly damaged but he looked worse off against the fallen one and he purposely toyed with him. Thanos was singed. Not very impressive considering he just waded through a gungir blast.

In what way? All I remember were his clothes being ripped.

Thanos was face down on the goddamn floor. He struggled to get to stand. Odin clearly did far more than singe him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor never went toe to toe or waded through any long drawn out Odin blast either. Odin's been beaten by far less than Thanos so by your rationale an army of ants is greater than Thor as well. Peachy logic ? Thanos has beaten Thor so get your abc logic out of here. Odin has never defeated Thanos he only respected him. Respect does not mean defeat, kid.

If you consider what Thanos was doing as going toe to toe, then Thor most definitely did the same. Thor withstood almost as much hits as Thanos did. But like I said, I have no problem with Thanos’ showing, because Thor outperformed him, at least power wise. Those ants –that beat Odin off panel IIRC- are clearly far superior to Thanos if they can beat Odin. Lol. You love using how characters perform against others as evidence, but when it doesn’t suit you, it suddenly gets ridiculed?

You just spent the last ten pages arguing about how Surfer will prevail against Odin based on how he performed against the Primordial Gods.

Shut up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said when the shields aren't drawn OR REFERENCED. I mean come on point to a single reference when neither has happened and he's had a shield up if you can't you have nothing. You're so desperate right now it's quite amusing.

I don’t have to. The shields were there. We saw the blast bend around Thanos unnaturally. I.e. they were drawn. I also pointed to a scene where Thanos rocks invisible shields. That’s all I have to do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This response applies to your copy and paste argument as well I only referenced this arc to show you in this arc Thanos shields were clearly drawn.

Yea, by a different artist. Do you not understand that the drawing of shields vary from writer to writer. This artist drew the shields as not all encompassing like previously done by himself and others.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos didn't prepare for a conflict with Galactus. Omega he did hence the most powerful shields we've ever seen. Even shielding Thanos has available to him are enough to deplete vital energies of Galactus.

Can someone confirm this? I don’t give enough of a shit to flip through the arc. I remember Thanos knowing and planning for his confrontation with Galactus.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What;s so hard to understand that he would only use a weapon if it helped him out more....why pull out a weapon that gave him no edge of what he is capable of on his own minus the weapon. You make no logical sense like usual when debating for the asgardians.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
"For verily, this spear be but the extension of the All Father of Asgard."

http://img717.imageshack.us/i/odinspear.jpg/

It's less useful than I remember it being. The Scepter of Power is what he whips out when he wants to really channel his power -the next best thing to entering his full power form- against the big threats like the Forsung, Surtur, and I believe Seth as well.

I don’t give a shit what your stance is regarding the spear as long as you’re not arguing that it amps Odin in anyway. Of course, that’s likely going to be your stance.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This writer made it clear his weapon made a difference. This writer. LOL.

To what end? Even the Scepter is nothing but a conduit for Odin’s power. At best, it proves Starlin knows shit all about Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has looked worse against foes like the Fallen One he was no in real danger at all and was going to get serious. Points to the Thor with power gem fight when Pip thought he was taking a beating and he was only fighting for sport and was seemingly unphased.

Unfazed? What’s your definition of the word?

Looked worse? In what way?

😂 Are you trying to imply that Thanos was in no danger and was going to get serious? Okay, yea, I’m done with the constant rehashing, goal post moving, and dodging arguments you make. I’ve argued with you for like 18 pages on this thread. WhiteWitch or whoever wants, can argue with you for the next 18.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Haha. Like I asked, how does current Thanos beat Surfer?

I don’t have to prove anything further. You’re argument was that because we didn’t see shields the same way we did under a different artist in a previous issue, they weren’t there. I just pointed you towards a scene where shields were portrayed as invisible. I.e. just because they aren’t visibly colored, that doesn’t mean they aren’t there. This on top of the fact that the initial blast is bending around Thanos as if blocked by something and Thanos used shields previously in the arc, logic dictates that Thanos was using shields. Of course, this is you I’m debating with.

In what way? All I remember were his clothes being ripped.

Thanos was face down on the goddamn floor. He struggled to get to stand. Odin clearly did far more than singe him.

If you consider what Thanos was doing as going toe to toe, then Thor most definitely did the same. Thor withstood almost as much hits as Thanos did. But like I said, I have no problem with Thanos’ showing, because Thor outperformed him, at least power wise. Those ants –that beat Odin off panel IIRC- are clearly far superior to Thanos if they can beat Odin. Lol. You love using how characters perform against others as evidence, but when it doesn’t suit you, it suddenly gets ridiculed?

You just spent the last ten pages arguing about how Surfer will prevail against Odin based on how he performed against the Primordial Gods.

Shut up.

I don’t have to. The shields were there. We saw the blast bend around Thanos unnaturally. I.e. they were drawn. I also pointed to a scene where Thanos rocks invisible shields. That’s all I have to do.

Yea, by a different artist. Do you not understand that the drawing of shields vary from writer to writer. This artist drew the shields as not all encompassing like previously done by himself and others.

Can someone confirm this? I don’t give enough of a shit to flip through the arc. I remember Thanos knowing and planning for his confrontation with Galactus.

I don’t give a shit what your stance is regarding the spear as long as you’re not arguing that it amps Odin in anyway. Of course, that’s likely going to be your stance.

To what end? Even the Scepter is nothing but a conduit for Odin’s power. At best, it proves Starlin knows shit all about Odin.

Unfazed? What’s your definition of the word?

Looked worse? In what way?

😂 Are you trying to imply that Thanos was in no danger and was going to get serious? Okay, yea, I’m done with the constant rehashing, goal post moving, and dodging arguments you make. I’ve argued with you for like 18 pages on this thread. WhiteWitch or whoever wants, can argue with you for the next 18.

Get a girlfriend > argue with Quan for 18 pages

They do seem crazy about each other though. Opposites attract and all.