Is there a chance a non-believer will go to heaven?

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Yeah, humans are flawed and need to be punished.

The flesh is weak, but humans are not flawed. They function the way they were made to function. In that they are perfect. The Creator knew what He was doing.

Yeah flawed and needing of repentance.

Originally posted by MRasheed
Not for anger, for disbelief.

You can't be angry at him if you don't believe in him.

You need to repent if you chose a life of disbelief and sin.

Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b]You can't be angry at him if you don't believe in him. [/B]

Some peoples' disbelief is a form of anger, like they are getting back at Him over some imagined wrong. Meanwhile their disbelief is only hurting their own souls.

That's silly.

Imagined wrong? He killed their child.

We need to praise god more so that we can be happy in all areas of our lives.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
That's silly.

It is both silly and sad. I've known a lot of people like that. A few got over it and returned to God.

Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b]Imagined wrong? He killed their child. [/B]

It was the child's time to go.

Originally posted by MRasheed
It is both silly and sad. I've known a lot of people like that. A few got over it and returned to God.

It's almost like you're saying that you need to return to god for a guarantee.

LOL mrrasheed... simple time simple people...
you see
they were not technological. they couldn't predict a hurricane nor did they understand it...ETC

when i say simple people i don't mean physically, what makes you even assume i mean physical simplicity? 😬

Originally posted by MRasheed
It was the child's time to go.

would the baby age in heaven?

Originally posted by Deja~vu
It's almost like you're saying that you need to return to god for a guarantee.

You need to return to God to be saved.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
LOL mrrasheed... simple time simple people...

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this issue, Omega.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
you see they were not technological. they couldn't predict a hurricane nor did they understand it...ETC

They had the technology they needed for their lives necessary at the time and probably some extra stuff that was lost.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
when i say simple people i don't mean physically, what makes you even assume i mean physical simplicity? 😬

When I say past humans were complex I mean they had all of the same thoughts, relationships and problems as any modern peoples. Children aren't as emotionally, mentally or relationship savvy as adults.

Originally posted by MRasheed
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this issue, Omega.

They had the technology they needed for their lives necessary at the time and probably some extra stuff that was lost.

When I say past humans were complex I mean they had all of the same thoughts, relationships and problems as any modern peoples. Children aren't as emotionally, mentally or relationship savvy as adults.

They had the technology they needed for their lives necessary at the time

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
WOW so a baby who dies 10 min after birth, you just write it off as it was his time to go? do you see how flawed that is?

Does the baby have time to formulate an attachment for life on earth? So why would he give a sh*t? He gets to spend all of eternity in paradise. There is no tragedy from the baby's point-of-view.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
1. the babies never even lived at all 😬

They live forever in heaven. The whole point in life on earth is to determine who will go to heaven and who will go to hell when it's all over.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
2. why would god create a life who would live for 10mins?

To test the living.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
would the baby age in heaven?

There is no mention of that in scripture. We'll have to wait and see.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
thats what i mean by simple people.
what are you not getting?

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
thats what i mean by simple people.
what are you not getting?

The idea that people of the past "invented God" because they didn't have a toaster, a box fan, or striped toothpaste is stupid as hell. I certainly hope that's not what your point was supposed to be.

Originally posted by MRasheed
The idea that people of the past "invented God" because they didn't have a toaster, a box fan, or striped toothpaste is stupid as hell. I certainly hope that's not what your point was supposed to be.

i clearly said they're trying to explain the world... thus why i mentioned storms earlier 😬

they didn't know why the ground shook, funnels reaching from the skies, or why water was drowning cities... so they say a god was responsible

thats what i mean

or is that too farfetched for you 😆