Originally posted by NemeBro
Yes, but RJ's logic is likely "Turn time and then apparate to location."Which is all well and good. Only as I said, they have no idea where baby Supes resides... Or that Superman is Clark Kent.
It goes beyond that still, Smallville is on a different Earth, so even if they knew about Smallville and that Superman was Clark Kent, they're still lacking the ability. Pretty sure wizards can't apparate across dimensions/realities.
RJ tried this similar shit in the Jedi thread, something about the wizards going back in time and killing the Jedi/Sith when they're babies. I've never seen a wizard apparate to a different planet; let alone in a different galaxy.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
2. No surprise attack bullshit, whoever is being attacked should know in advance.
I do not agree with this.
Surprise attacks are fine especially if that's in character for one or both sides.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Just a theory, bro, that's all.Now, as for Superman blitzing the castle at light speed. Here's the scene where he turns back time, his fastest feat, yes?
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Now, the speed of light is approximately 186,282 miles per second.
The circumference of the earth at the equator is 24,901.55 miles.
So each circuit Superman made of the Earth, he covered 24,901.55 miles. I am assuming he was circling the Earth around the equator, it appears that way in the vid.
Now....From :53 to about 1:03, he is completing about one circuit of the Earth per second. He builds up speed as he goes, up to the point where he is completing about 7-8 circuits per second. This is about around/at the speed of light.
Also, notice at :20. It takes him a full two seconds to get from the ground into the clouds.
And at :48, it takes him a full five seconds to fly from the clouds to outer space.
Now, going by what we saw in the vid, it takes Superman a full 10ish seconds to reach light speed, and this is when he is already traveling 24,901.55 miles per hour.
Point is that Superman cannot just take off and BAM achieve light speed. He needs time to do so. He cannot instantly speed blitz the castle at the speed of light.
RJ, I explained to you how he isn't moving as "slow" as you think he is. He's actually moving multiple times the speed of light. I explained this to you in detail.
Superman is NOT using TK to spin the Earth backwards...he's moving so fast that time is reversing based on a theory that if moving faster than light, you can go back in time.
In order to get the Earth to move that fast back in time, you have to move like 5-10 times the speed of light (just an estimate). How fast Reeves is moving, himself, is irrelevant to the scene.
Additionally, Reeves is much farther away from the planet than at sea-level, so that radius/circumference/diameter measures that you are using will not be correct. You have to add a bit do that to account for his placement in space away from the dead center of the Earth.
Originally posted by dadudemonAnd is Superman habitually doing surprise attacks? Or Hancock?
I do not agree with this.Surprise attacks are fine especially if that's in character for one or both sides.
RJ, I explained to you how he isn't moving as "slow" as you think he is. He's actually moving multiple times the speed of light. I explained this to you in detail.Point. But the fact remains that he did not go from 0-light speed instantly. It took him a few seconds.Superman is NOT using TK to spin the Earth backwards...he's moving so fast that time is reversing based on a theory that if moving faster than light, you can go back in time.
In order to get the Earth to move that fast back in time, you have to move like 5-10 times the speed of light (just an estimate). How fast Reeves is moving, himself, is irrelevant to the scene.
Additionally, Reeves is much farther away from the planet than at sea-level, so that radius/circumference/diameter measures that you are using will not be correct. You have to add a bit do that to account for his placement in space away from the dead center of the Earth.
And what about it taking him a full two seconds to reach the clouds? Or a full five to reach outer space?
Or this, when Lois dies:
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At 2:54, Superman senses/hears/whatever Lois in trouble. He takes off to find her. He didn't find her until 3:44. It took him almost a full minute. Now, with his super senses and shit, why did it take him so long? Point here is that if a wizard apparates to Afghanistan, Superman can't pinpoint him/her with his senses, go to light speed, and find them instantly.
RJ
Point. But the fact remains that he did not go from 0-light speed instantly. It took him a few seconds.
Originally posted by EminenceYes, it is pertinent. Superman, when pissed off, took 2 seconds to reach the clouds from the ground. Pretty sure he was going all out. Took him another 5 to reach space. Again, he was probably going all out. That's not faster than the eye can perceive.
Is this really pertinent? The difference between six hundred thousand and six hundred million miles per hour won't really matter to wizards, because they can't perceive him at either speed anyway.
I am not questioning his flat out top speed, just the time it takes him to achieve it. If my calculations were off by say, 50%, then it would take him around 5 seconds to go from flying at a low speed to light speed. ALOT can happen in 5 seconds. It takes maybe 1/4 second to cast a spell.
RJ
Yes, it is pertinent. Superman, when pissed off, took 2 seconds to reach the clouds from the ground. Pretty sure he was going all out. Took him another 5 to reach space. Again, he was probably going all out. That's not faster than the eye can perceive.
RJ
I am not questioning his flat out top speed, just the time it takes him to achieve it. If my calculations were off by say, 50%, then it would take him around 5 seconds to go from flying at a low speed to light speed. ALOT can happen in 5 seconds. It takes maybe 1/4 second to cast a spell.
Originally posted by EminenceStraight up, straight at, you saying that Superman flies faster one way or the other?
That's far faster than anyone would ever be able to track and react to especially considering Superman wouldn't be flying straight up so much straight at them.
Again, you're ignoring what you've been told: he does not need to be anywhere near lightspeed to be moving beyond the perceptions of the wizards. He is not traveling slowly in those five seconds, he's doing something that averages out to around Mach 50. Even moving in the low Mach range would be too fast for wizards.No, it wouldn't be too fast for them. IF a wizard sees him take off trying to achieve light speed, and reacts quickly enough, they can easily catch him with an Immobulus spell, Petrificus totalus, or many other non verbal spells. Check out Snapes reacton speed here, at :43.
Supermans take off speed (going from 0-light speed) is being blown WAY out of proportion. Hell, all a wizard has to do is look in Supermans general direction and say "Confundus."