Originally posted by Lestov16The presence of a stable time loop within Harry Potter proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that they can not, in fact, change the past, and that their universe runs on determinism, much like Watchmen's.
Time travel involves FTL speed, thus FTL particles. Even Manhattan can't see FTL, which is why he can't time travel but only experience all time simultaneously. It's the entire point of his deterministic viewpoint is that he can see the past and future but can't change it. The wizards actually [b]can, so they do have that advantage on him. [/B]
Nice try, but no cigar.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Just thought of a way Wizards could win. They can use their Time-Turner to go back to 1950-whatever and stop Ostermann from entering the chamber. Such a process would undoubtedly involve FTL particles, so Manhattan could be at a disadvantage.
They'd not know about Doctor Manhattan's history to those exact points, you don't even know the day, time, year and location and you have access to google. BTW, it's August 20, 1959 Gila Flats Arizona.
If they managed to find out before he explodes them all which is unlikely, they'd be travelling to 1959 in their own universe.
Wizards lose. Deal.
Originally posted by the ninjakHe proved he can't keep a woman happy. Great job Manhattan. He actually let her cheat on him. What an idiot. In that scene he did create clones but not in the final scene he reformed his body which he clearly states.
Well Doc already proved that he was able to create clones to eat his wife out whilst he worked on scientific research.
That's all the backing I need.
Crucio wins and Voldemort solos.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthWe argue based off of abilities, what's in character, and feats not just feats alone, hillbilly boy. You fanboys want to only look at one small picture in the mosaic that is kmc.
Well Doc Manhattan actually wins this because of attributes (what he is/has) and screenfeats (What he does, is demonstratively capable of).There. Thats that proved. Voldemort is dead after being beaten to death with 300 manhattan schlongs..... and solo-orbiting the cold deep space somewhere near Mars.
Cry more. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
I assumed he was. I guess this is your way of saying Voldemort can solo by not including him. Another win for the dark lord.
It's "Hogwarts", if you knew anything of the guy you always fanboy you'd know he's not a part of Hogwarts.
Adding more cannon fodder won't defeat Dr. Manhattan here, Voldermort would just be another exploded wizard. Cry more.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well Doc Manhattan actually wins this because of attributes (what he is/has) and screenfeats (What he does, is demonstratively capable of).There. Thats that proved. Voldemort is dead after being beaten to death with 300 manhattan schlongs..... and solo-orbiting the cold deep space somewhere near Mars.
Cry more. 🙂
If someone could argue that voldemort cannot be killed because Manhattan has no "magical spells" capable of destroying Voldemort's horcruxes, then I posit that Manhattan destroys Voldemort but teleporting every essence of being of Voldemort into the center of the sun. The sun should be much hotter than Fiendfyre....
Well, on top of that, he just teleports all combatants to the center of the sun. And he does this remotely or as his non-corporeal self...if you want.
There's just now way any being besides another demi-god level character can compete with Manhattan: magic or otherwise.
Originally posted by dadudemon
If someone could argue that voldemort cannot be killed because Manhattan has no "magical spells" capable of destroying Voldemort's horcruxes, then I posit that Manhattan destroys Voldemort but teleporting every essence of being of Voldemort into the center of the sun. The sun should be much hotter than Fiendfyre....
Works for me.
Originally posted by RobtardI assumed it was every wizard from the films entrenched in Hogwarts. If the threadstarter wants to come in and say Lord Voldemort isn't in the thread to clarify but as it stands Voldemort solos with one Crucio.
It's "Hogwarts", if you knew anything of the guy you always fanboy you'd know he's not a part of Hogwarts.Adding more cannon fodder won't defeat Dr. Manhattan here, Voldermort would just be another exploded wizard. Cry more.
Originally posted by Robtard
It's "Hogwarts", if you knew anything of the guy you always fanboy you'd know he's not a part of Hogwarts.Adding more cannon fodder won't defeat Dr. Manhattan here, Voldermort would just be another exploded wizard. Cry more.
Like I said in another thread, quan has very little HP knowledge.