Originally posted by Warlord
nuclear energy is energy released by splitting atoms. it fals in the weak/strong forces. It sure can be used to generate electricity but it does not originate in EM spectrum.
anyway I'm going for now.cheers
No I'm pretty sure nuclear energy (aka the radiation given off by nuclear reactions) is within the EM spectrum :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation
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Originally posted by Prep-Man
Nuclear energy is different than emotional spectrum, so unless Quasar has an example in manipulating THAT type of energy, it's all speculation.
it would be speculation if the energies of a power ring have never been drained by energy manipulators.
which isn't the case.
not that I rate Avengers/JLA as cannon but it happened there too
Originally posted by Prep-Man
And you can say Hal can resist his energies being absorbed. Which he and Kyle have done a few times.
no doubt he can fight it.
the whole point is that I can see Wendel having this option and since he usually does drain wht he tries to drain I give the absorption/drain fight to him. I can see Hal fighting back though. For me, it is a very close fight. I give it to Wendel mainly do to the fact that he does not run out of energy
Originally posted by Prep-Man
If, but like I said, Hal can resist. Most of the people that have affected Hal, are ones that are master energy manipulators like dr. Light. It could go either way, but I give Hal the small majority, because of versatility.
and u don't consider Q a master energy manipulator? 😕
anyway it's because of Hal's versatility I say it's close too, but I give Q the small majority.
agree to disagree I guess
He is, but we as readers have no clue if he can absorb it or not. Just because someone else absorbed it (with trouble), doesn't mean Quasar can. Unless you have an example of him absorbing something similar. It's basically whoever you like more. I like Hal a little more, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he can resist Quasar's energy drain.
BTW, do you think Quasar can absorb other Lantern corps? Like the Rage/Red Lantern's, Hope, Passion, etc...?
Originally posted by Prep-Man
He is, but we as readers have no clue if he can absorb it or not. Just because someone else absorbed it (with trouble), doesn't mean Quasar can. Unless you have an example of him absorbing something similar. It's basically whoever you like more. I like Hal a little more, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he can resist Quasar's energy drain.BTW, do you think Quasar can absorb other Lantern corps? Like the Rage/Red Lantern's, Hope, Passion, etc...?
I see the Lantern power somewhat retconed since the new colors addition. I say Q can do it since his scope of power equals or surpasses Dr Light's. On a side note amazo had done the same (drained, not copied). however I wouldn't be surprised if now an energy manipulator could not deal with the lantern's energies. They were plasma based constructs IIRC initially but now i'm not too sure. anyway it is a matter of preference as you said. Hal's my third favorite DC character but Qusasar is my second favorite cosmic Marvel hero. lol
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Dr. Light hasn't manipulated the other corps and she/he has failed to absorb Hal before. Besides, the male version of Dr. Light can manipulate pretty much all energy it seems, even magic.
the male version manipulates the light of every energy source including magic. blame DC physics.
anyway. I don't know about the other corps. GL rings have be drained in the past I say it could be done again. that's all
Originally posted by Warlord
I see the Lantern power somewhat retconed since the new colors addition. I say Q can do it since his scope of power equals or surpasses Dr Light's.
Not in terms of the wide variety of energy he can manipulate, no.
In terms of the level of his powers, sure.
On a side note amazo had done the same (drained, not copied). however I wouldn't be surprised if now an energy manipulator could not deal with the lantern's energies.
Again, Amazo has absorbed magical energies and life force energies and chronal energies and reality-altering energies. There is nothing Amazo cannot copy or absorb.
They were plasma based constructs IIRC initially but now i'm not too sure. anyway it is a matter of preference as you said. Hal's my third favorite DC character but Qusasar is my second favorite cosmic Marvel hero. lol
It was always Oan energy, but it's been thought to be psionic for a long long time, ever since it was described as an extention of the Guardians' own psionic abilities. It can be described as a generic 'cosmic power', and it's definitely not consistent, but I'd say it's probably a more esoteric power source than just normal EM/stellar energy at this point, and I think that only makes sense, given the way that the ENERGY ITSELF, not just the ring, responds to will power cues.
The basis of Quasar's and Light's powers is not that different. Light was able to manipulate other kinds of energy by manipulating the light aspect of them. Crazy DC physics I guess.
I'm pretty sure it is willpower fueled plasma based constructs in the past.
Again though, since the introduction of the other emotional spectrum rings this could have changed. There is no specific reference though. I wish a writer describes the nature of the rings energies explicitly.
Originally posted by Warlord
The basis of Quasar's and Light's powers is not that different. Light was able to manipulate other kinds of energy by manipulating the light aspect of them. Crazy DC physics I guess.
Obviousy they are different, since Dr. Light is capable of doing something that Quasar is not. That's the only germane point here.
I'm pretty sure it is willpower fueled plasma based constructs in the past.
Under some writers, definitely. But a normal plasma is not affected by force of will. And I've already addressed that it's long been an extention of the Guardians' psionic abilities, as well.
Again though, since the introduction of the other emotional spectrum rings this could have changed. There is no specific reference though. I wish a writer describes the nature of the rings energies explicitly.
Why? What would that add?
Frankly, they've been doing too much explaining away the majesty of the GLC as is.
Originally posted by Warlord
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Unless I'm missing something strong/weak interaction result in nuclear radiation (ionized radiation). Ionized (nuclear) radiation is WITHIN the EM spectrum NOT the forces resulting in it : Strong/Weak Force. That's why there are four forces : gravity, strong, weak and electromagnetic force.
Quasar, as stated on panel by Quasar himself, has no control over energy outside the EM spectrum.
Originally posted by Warlord
He's doing more than Quasar has done by just manipulating light.
Explicitly stated by him. If light manipulation allows you to control every energy in DCU then fine. It's not a character trait.
"Not a character trait"? What?
Dr. Light has demonstrated the ability to control things that lie outside the electromagnetic spectrum. That immediately means that he can control more types of energy than can Quasar. If you're trying to argue that the meaning of the electromagnetic spectrum changes between universes --- absurd, since they are using a real world concept.
Unless you've got examples of Dr. Light specifically saying he can only control energies within the electromagnetic spectrum while he simultaneously controls GL energies. Because earlier in his career he COULDN'T control GL energies, despite desperately trying to/wanting to.
Plasma is not affected by force of will. In GL comics it is just powered by it.
Are you not understanding what I'm saying, or being purposefully obtuse here?